Good Philmont blade

Great advice, Wade. :thumbup:

Have you posted anything online about your trip? (stories, pics, etc.)

Dan
 
During Philmont (3 years ago) I was the cook and I used my knife EVERY day. I carried a 3' blade orange Buck Lite. I loved it, it worked perfect for me and I only paid $20. That knife since then has been on 2 more Philmont trips.
 
DT-I would actually recommend bringing along camp shoes, and Crocs would fit the bill nicely even though they're not very stylish. After a long day of hot hiking, it's great to take off your sweaty, dusty boots and socks and let your feet get some fresh air for a while and just recover! Any old tennis shoes, sandals, or Crocs would do. I took a pair of flip-flop sandals out for their light weight and ventillation. It's more than worth the couple ounces of weight to give your feet a little change in environment! Just be careful not to stray too far away from the camp and twist your ankle on higher ground without the support of hiking boots.

Mr. Koster-I haven't posted much about my trip online. I have several photo albums and journals from the trips, also saved on disc and my computer electronically. I've only told a few knife-related stories here on the forums, and to the Scouts in my troop who will be going to Philmont this coming June. It was a great troop and it showed me that there's still some hope for Scouting. I think that high-adventure camps like Philmont and Key West's Sea Base are what Scouting is all about! If you want to talk Philmont or Scouting in general, let me know! Maybe all the Philmont vets could start a thread and talk about the experience.

God bless you, America, and our men and women overseas.

KATN,

Wade
619G6
 
Go with the crocks because they weigh next to nothing. I don't think you can find anything lighter unless it's a pair of thin shower flip-flops that won't provide nearly as much security and protection. Crocks are also good for walking in water as they will not absorb any. Function goes before fashion in the wilderness.
 
Really? I carry stuff that isn't usually necessary all the time. First Aid Kit, flashlight, bandanna, lighter, cell phone. Hey, you don't have a spare tire in your car by any chance, do you?
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If I didn't need and use those items regularly, I probably wouldn't carry them.
Do you carry two first aid kits? Two spare tires (I sometimes do)? Two cell phones?

That was my point after all, that one knife would be plenty.
 
Bob W said:
If I didn't need and use those items regularly, I probably wouldn't carry them.
Do you carry two first aid kits? Two spare tires (I sometimes do)? Two cell phones?

That was my point after all, that one knife would be plenty.
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I think that comparison might be relevant if you had one small FAK in a cargo pocket and one more comprehensive kit packed away. Otherwise it just implies that each component is identical in its capability, which would be a complete failure to comprehend the differences between fixed blades and folders.

If I had two cell phones, I would def carry both of what could be the most useful tools available in an emergency situation.
 
I am going to Philmont this summer and i am looking for a good folder to bring along. I would like it to be light weight and have a good quality steel and as for blade length anywhere between 2.5 to 4" will be good. As for the price i would like to keep it sub 150$. So far out of the knives i own the Paramilie is my planned knife. Anny other suggestions.
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This one is nice and handy....
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But this one is probably more useful overall....
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Or if you want to go real "old school"....
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I would carry this one, even though it is heavy and more expensive....
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Good luck,
Allen.
 
might get a leatherman for the pliers
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I know I mentioned our Philmont experience earlier, but I'll say it again here - we did actually need pliers, but the very, very lightweight Squirt P4 completely took care of our needs for a whole lot less weight than something like a Wave. The Squirt P4 would be highly recommended based on our Philmont trek.
 
If pliers are necessary, my current EDC lineup includes a Gerber 600-series DET multitool in a nicer Spec-Ops nylon holster, which is wrapped several times with duct tape on the lower half. I was able to fit my small Buck Hartsook fixed blade (about a 2" blade of CPM S30V stainless steel treated with a process designed by Paul Bos) and several zip ties into the sheath too, and the whole package weighs in at around a pound. Very versatile and useful. Strap it to your belt or the hip pad of your pack. The grand total for this setup with a generic multi-tool and Hartsook, including the sheath, would be about $80. Figure $20 for the sheath, $25 for the Hartsook, and $35 for a smaller Leatherman or Victorniox.

Just a note: don't wrap stuff you need with duct tape when you go to Philmont. It is a "smellable" and it is necessary to go up in the bear bags. If you have a Nalgene filled with a "smellable" drink like mix-in lemonade, then attach your duct tape to this particular Nalgene and put a piece of parachute cord around the lid attachment to remind you that it's your smellable bottle! You don't want mini-bears (Philmont speak for tinier critters) tearing up your pack in the middle of the night because they smell sugary sweetness.

Another piece of advice from above: pack mix-in drinks like Crystal Light raspberry lemonade, Kool Aid, etc. The water out of some of the Philmont wells, or the use of the MSR water purification tablets they have, can taste bad sometimes! This is a good way of making your hydration bareable!

God bless you, America, and our men and women overseas.

KATN,

Wade
619G6
 
Hey Allen C., What model Vic is that with the philips screwdriver in it? I'm always using the philips that's on my Tinker. Thanks.
 
you made the best decision already - you are going to Philmont! After three trips, a stint at the training center and 50 years veteran status in BSA - I would go again! - I carried a SAK Classic in my personal articles kit and an old 84 mm Tinker - I still have both! and probably used the Classic more than the Tinker! You really are not going to fight off a bear or wild cat so a weapon is not necessary. ... but If it makes you feel better and you are willing to carry it -take what you like as long as it fits BSA regs (I think fixed blades are out!) Have a great trip and watch the lights on "Frenchman's Messa"! just behind the "Tooth of Time"!

Revvie (a former Pennsylvania)
 
Troop said:
Hey Allen C., What model Vic is that with the philips screwdriver in it? I'm always using the philips that's on my Tinker. Thanks.
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Yep, mnblade is correct, it's the Vic Adventurer.
It's just like the Vic Rucksack except that it has a phillips instead of a corkscrew.
It's a very handy knife and is one of my favorites.
 
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