Got some sad news today...

Ken: My heart goes out to you. My wife had surgery less than a year after we were married, making children impossible. Fortunately, adoption was a lot cheaper then. We ended up with a son, and later Kimberly, and they both have been huge blessings to us.

Although the notion lingers in a lot of minds, believe me adoption is not a second-rate option. Is that 60k with a private placement agency or with the state DHR? I would have thought that the state would have been lower.

Whtever your decisions, may God bless you.
 
Thoughts and prayers are with ya man... Got a buddy who went through IVF with his wife. It was tough on them, and hit them hard in their wallet too as a lovely sucker punch. They were very down, but kept their chin up as best as possible. Well, they are now proud parents and look back on the whole process with a different view point.

It's all good man. Keep the spirit up. :thumbup:
 
Smoke and Prayers headed your way.

It's a shame that good people, who will provide a good, loving, nuturing home, have so much trouble concieving. Then the trashy, drug addict/alcoholic prostitute can't seem to NOT get pregnant.... Jeez.

I really do hope it works for you guys...


More smoke and Prayers...
 
Hey brother,

I hate to hear the news for ya. Things will get better.

I am your proxy at Blade and I will Leap over tall Hogs to get your wish @ cost:)

so be patient before you buy another one. also if you need to return the other its toatally cool bro.


SMoke and prayers for you and the misses

here's a little something to hopefully cheer ya up a little

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yours all clean:)
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you've been deep in the suck for the last few years brother. I don't know if I could've kept it together as well as you have, if I were in your shoes.

I just had an idea: come over to the house on Sat, and we'll grill some helpless woodland creature, sip some scotch, and pillage my cheap cigar stash.
 
thombrogan said:
Hoping you got the creepy pm I sent you and that it wasn't too too creepy.
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Got your message, brother. Nothing creepy about it. I'm actually waiting for wifey to get home so I can share it with her. She's amazed about how supportive the people here are. I appreciate you expounding on your experience for me, and I'll be looking into a lot of what's in that message. Thanks, brother. :thumbup:

T,

You're a good hog:D Those knives are just beautiful, especially this one:
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You won't be getting that back from me anytime soon, but I will not forget that you get dibs on it if I ever DO need to sell. And you'll get it at exactly what I paid for it. :thumbup:

Glad to have made your acquaintance.


Gentle Ben said:
I just had an idea: come over to the house on Sat, and we'll grill some helpless woodland creature, sip some scotch, and pillage my cheap cigar stash.
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Ben, I think we have a little partay down south at my Cousin's house on Saturday. Would be very nice, though. Maybe we can do it the following weekend. Don't forget to go and buy Stef something nice for this Sunday, man.

Oh...and I did NOT forget about your ufcked up, sardonic comment over in that other thread. I'm gonna steal the snakeskin slabs off your SHe and dip it in that rubber epoxy you use on some of those polymer guns you mod. :eek::D
 
Enjoy the partay. I was going to let you help me prepare the ribs & sauce for the bbq I'm having for the Notorious W.I.F.E on Sunday.

Now I'lll just have to remember to lock up the SH-E when you're around.
 
BTW, Knife Hunter, I'm admiring the hell out of those. If you decide to part with one, let me know.
 
Ben...it's my cousin's birthday, as well as Ma's day, so they're doing something down south. gotta be there, ya know?

And as for those NO's, I believe the only two left are the DCTH and the Sabreground black paper. Both of those are MINE MINE MINE!!!
 
My thoughts are with you, best of luck in your journey. I'm several years ahead of you on that same path. If you ever have questions or want to chat about it let me know.

My wife and I tried to conceive the old fashioned way for several years with no luck. We went to a fertility doctor, got all those tests, and then heard the crushing diagnosis. He recommended we skip all the lightweight stuff and go right to IVF. We did three IVF cycles but they all failed. That was the damn crappiest year of our lives. Your estimate of about 15K per cycle is accurate though sometimes you can find doctors that have shared risk plans where you don't pay as much if it doesn't work. My wife was in a support group with about 7 other girls and IVF worked for all of them though so your odds are good.

After the third IVF cycle we decided to stop and switch to adoption. Like you said, there is only so much money to be spent on this. It took us a year to get into the adoption program and we have now been waiting about 15 months in the program for a domestic newborn. The wait is longer than we thought but part of the reason is that we set the bar pretty high, no drug use or mental illness for the mom, etc. I think the cost will be about 30-35K, pretty high yes but not as much as you had mentioned. Plus there is a tax credit of $11,650 you can get from the government if you qualify, see http://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc607.html.

My recommendation is just take one step at a time. One form, one procedure, etc. The big picture was just to much for us to focus on. And, don't forget yourselves in the process. Take time to just have fun, take small vacations, go to movies, and so on. It is easy to let it all consume you but that doesn't help anything. And, keep up with your hobbies. For me, going shooting, hiking, and screwing around with knives keeps my mind active on other topics. Find what works for you.

I'm getting pretty anxious about our adoption. We've had a few close calls but nothing yet. Hopefully soon.

Good luck to you.

Mark
 
My prayers are with you and your wife. I for one know what you are going through, but hopefully it will all be worth it in the long run. Goodluck!!
 
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