You need to check out Outdoorbay.com. Lonnie, the owner, will bend over backwards to make sure you're satisfied. He has some of the lowest prices around on some of hottest knives on the market. His direct email is: stumpyswholesale11254@yahoo.com. I made a vow to stop buying knives after selling my collection. Thanks to Lonnie, I'm back to buying with a BIG GRIN ON MY FACE.:thumbup: