Grinder safety question

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I'm real new at this too, just starting to get some stuff to really work out well. And it's just a total thrill to see a blade taking shape. I've been using them all my life, how it never occured to me I could make the darned things just baffles me(duh)

In woodworking one of the things I did to reinforce the saftey thing was every time I caught myself slacking, I turned off the power tool, and either walked away for a bit, or did it by hand. That usually took about 10 times as long, so next time I kept safety in mind a little bit better. PITA, but it worked, whatever ends up working for you.

Like Rob! said, it's worth it, and we all made it through the learning stages alive so far, just be careful and pay attention, you'll be fine.

Sorry if I talk to much, I'm on call and haven't had any calls, and I'm bored as all get out! :jerkit:

Jon
 
I suppose I am way out of the loop but does someone know what Bob Engnath died of?
Sorry, probably not the appropriate place to ask this but I always wondered.

Mike
 
I've forced myself out of the shop a few times when I caught myself hurrying or not paying attention. I punish myself by going upstair and paying bills. :)
 
Hey Rocketmann, that looks great and not too dificult.

I recently bought a 4X36 grinder (Ryobi) and this would be an excellent modification to get to be able to start using 2X72.
 
With the same ideas, and new guys for that matter. Cool.

I've got the same Ryobi 4x36 belt grinder,Cmd. Good little unit for what it's designed for, same one I think I'm gonna convert. I'm going to try to do it so I can convert it back and forth without to much trouble, let me know how yours goes, I'll do the same.

You should really think about giving somethging like this a try too Chant, all this stuff translates back and forth. If you can figure something out on one thing, it'll likely help you out down the road on something else.

Mike, I didn't want to ask about Mr Engnath here either, but I was curious too, anybody?

Jon
 
Rocketman, that is a very innovative modification you made there. Pretty ingeneous to say the least.

Rob! and others, do not fear the scars....a body needs a few marks, it gives it character.:D
The pain and the rehab are the nasty parts....and the horror with which you observe a very fresh grinding wound and see the white just before the blood starts gushing...:eek:

Take care all.

Mike
 
Thanks guys, This was a ryobi also. It has pretty good power for what it is and will throw a nice shower of sparks with a new norax belt. Good luck with the conversions (you dont need to use such huge angle it was all that I had on hand...
 
I always wear gloves now.... couple years ago I cut the tip of my finger off..... Thank GOD for super glue..... I picked it up, washed it off and super-glued it back on.... it is a little slanted but stayed on.... funny thing was I had to get ready in an hour to go to work in the ER where I was a nurse..... LOL... the Docs had fun about my story.....

So, super-glue is very similiar to Cryo... used in the hospital, but is not the same... I did not cut into the bone, just the tip off.... I do not recommend doing the same... but when in doubt....go to the ER.... But I believe it was like the birds and the bees talk...

Glove-It.... better to have them and not need them, than to need it (or wish you were wearing them) and not have it...... Don't get cought with your gloves off..... LOL.....

Watch loose shirts.... and seen alot of ring injuries... My wife understands that I don't wear mine.... she is not jealous of my powerhammer anymore.

Daniel Prentice
 
Thanks, Daniel

I've been thinking of gloves (to help with the heat, too), but I was worried about getting one caught between the belt and the wheel, or something, and "pulling me in". I know this wouldn't happen on a low-powered 4 x 36, but if I get a KMG, won't that be a concern? Or, if I did get a finger pulled snagged between the belt and wheel, would the belt just stap?

Is the trick just to find really snug, well fitting gloves?
 
Chant, read and reread the safety warnings in books and manuals. Take a look at some safety threads around the internet. Learn which accidents are common on your tools. Make some jigs. Two years ago I had a table saw kick back at me. I was pretty lucky I had learned about kickback, but I had never imagined the force the material would achieve. My puchshitck had sharp corners and tore out the palm of my hand. Luckily I made no contact with the blade, which is common during kickback. After that I had to force myself to get back on that saw. Reading the safety material and making jigs increased my comfort level substantially. Today I can't imagine not doing the work, but I'm more aware of the powers involved in typical accidents. Sometimes I stop myself and do a task by hand too. Hand operations are underrated these days I think. Injuries happen when doing this type of work.

What kind of work do you do, professionally?
 
Chant said:
Thanks, Daniel
Or, if I did get a finger pulled snagged between the belt and wheel, would the belt just stap?

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Oh man, I dont want to think about that. I highly doubt the belt would snap...Ive rolled my finger between the wheel and belt with the machine OFF and it was scary how much pressure there is. If that happens, i think you are in trouble either way..
 
I tried for hours last night to find the reference to Bob's illness - without luck. I was told that Bob passed long before his time of some sort of lung ailment, probably related to his craft.

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Perhaps one more lesson we can learn from the great one. This wasn't necessisarily the norm. Bob also said "Never grind after eating broccoli, cabbage or brussel sprouts. A burp in the face mask could be fatal."

Off topic a bit - sorry.
 
aproy1101 said:
Chant, read and reread the safety warnings in books and manuals. Take a look at some safety threads around the internet. Learn which accidents are common on your tools. Make some jigs. Two years ago I had a table saw kick back at me. I was pretty lucky I had learned about kickback, but I had never imagined the force the material would achieve. My puchshitck had sharp corners and tore out the palm of my hand. Luckily I made no contact with the blade, which is common during kickback. After that I had to force myself to get back on that saw. Reading the safety material and making jigs increased my comfort level substantially. Today I can't imagine not doing the work, but I'm more aware of the powers involved in typical accidents. Sometimes I stop myself and do a task by hand too. Hand operations are underrated these days I think. Injuries happen when doing this type of work.

What kind of work do you do, professionally?

Thanks for the advice. I do read the manuals (and reread them, as some of it makes more sense after I've been using the tools for a while). I've started making jigs and such to help, and I also do walk away and work by hand if I find myself not paying proper attention to the machine, 'cause I'm too focused on the piece I'm working on.

I work as a project manager / systems architect in I.T. The computer keyboard and mouse are my "daytime" tools, so I get nervous about injuring my hands -- thus my original question :o
 
Cool. I am a development project manager for IT projects at my company as well. Pretty much the polar opposite of knifemaking other than the occasional crossing of both worlds when my daytime job makes me want to slit my throat.
 
TikTock said:
Cool. I am a development project manager for IT projects at my company as well. Pretty much the polar opposite of knifemaking other than the occasional crossing of both worlds when my daytime job makes me want to slit my throat.

I think it is the polar "oppositness" that I'm enjoying so much with the knifemaking. Some days I am so sick to death of dealing with the "digital" world, and there is nothing (to me, anyway) quite as "analog" as making a knife.

I've just finished a 7 year contract with the state of Minnesota, and am taking a few months off. So I get to spend LOTS of time in my newly set up knife shop (small room in the basement)!! Really enjoying it, except for my nervousness about the power tools :o
 
Rob! said:
I tried for hours last night to find the reference to Bob's illness - without luck. I was told that Bob passed long before his time of some sort of lung ailment, probably related to his craft.

Perhaps one more lesson we can learn from the great one. This wasn't necessisarily the norm. Bob also said "Never grind after eating broccoli, cabbage or brussel sprouts. A burp in the face mask could be fatal."

Off topic a bit - sorry.

Rob - Actually, this is another of my safety concerns (as, I'm sure, it is everyones). My eyes have been sore lately from dust etc, despite safety glasses and a face shield. I think I'm going to delay the KMG for a while and get a good filtration/vacuuming system set up first. The cocobola especially seems to get me.

BTW (and this is off-topic), I got to O1 and sundries I ordered from you today. I just finished my first knife with mild steel, so I'm looking forward to making a real one. And it only took 4 days to get here! And no border duty! Thanks!
 
synghyn - yeah I have been happy too with what the little Ryobi can do especially with some decent belts but 2X72 is what the best knifemaking belts are. My first priority now is getting my forge up and running but once that is done the grinder conversion is next. Let's definitely post the results and hope everyone else here attempting it does the same.

Chant, TikTock - I've been in IT for about 12 years now (Architecture, Design, etc.) and we seem to find similar enjoyment doing something like this for a hobby that is so different from work. There was a thread a while back where someone asked a coding question and it was very surprising how many knowledgeable people offered advice.
 
Rob! said:
I tried for hours last night to find the reference to Bob's illness - without luck. I was told that Bob passed long before his time of some sort of lung ailment, probably related to his craft.

I thought it was some sort of metal vapor illness, but I could be mistaking his with recently reading about someone else.
 
I do remember hearing someone spoken to have died after putting a zinc plated piece of pipe into their shop forge mistakenly, but have no idea who it was....Scary, though
 
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