Grinders - Burr King/Hard Core vs. Wilton/Bader/KMG

Looking at the pictures of the hardcore, it looks like it comes with a stand or mounted motor (not sure of the correct terminology). Is this right?

Dave
 
The motor is bolted to a base that can either be bench, or stand mounted.

Burr King is the same way, and the stand is optional(more $$).

Edited to add; The motor is a "C" faced unit, and it bolts to the side of the grinder body making one unit, and the whole thing is supported by the base.
 
Do many of you find the need for a horizontal grinder. I have a oscillating spindle sander that I feel could be used in place of one. Any advantages in having one.

I like the idea of having more than one type of dedicated grinder to save on set up time and adjustments.

Like with polishing I just bought my fifth buffing machine so I don't have to change wheels all the time. I'm thinking of adding one more in the future.

Fish
 
I vote for the Bader 3 , course that is all I have ground on.... for now. That Mayo fella keeps telling me to get a hardcore ;)

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Buys I have a Burr king with a large inventory of acessories including a spare dc. drive motor. I would love to purchace a Blll, however I have too much invested in the B-king tooling. Where can I purchace a Burr King Less Motor and acessories? Any sugestions? Thanks Mike Lovett
 
I see I wasnt the only one who left the wood from the shipping crate on the Bader for awhile eh ? Man i thought the Bader was quiet after using my Delta 1 x 42 and a Girzzly 1 x 42 for so long. Yeah some day I would like to have 2 machines...

care to compare the platen on the Bader vs the KMG for me ? The platen on mine is terrible , I wont even put the ceramic platen glass on it yet , it either needs surfaced or replaced , and has been that way since new. ( I got the combo platen ).

I like the bigger size workrest on the KMG , the Bader one is tiny !! Still need to build a workrest for the contact wheel.

This is a great informational thread...major kudos ! :D
 
you're right about the bader platen...I figured it should have been finished better.
The KMG is square, and really nice.



P.S. yer right about the wood, I have it where I want it now, so I'm gonna bolt it down ;)
 
do you use the bader platen as is ? I am thinking of using this one to hog out with and making another , getting it machined and then adding the ceramic to it for total flatness.... I supposed it isnt good to hog out a profile against the ceramic ?


thanks for your reply.
 
the45guy said:
do you use the bader platen as is ? I am thinking of using this one to hog out with and making another , getting it machined and then adding the ceramic to it for total flatness.... I supposed it isnt good to hog out a profile against the ceramic ?


thanks for your reply.
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I have 2 B-111's and the platen's suck. I put a 2'' piece of A2 tool steel tapped and bolted from the back on mine and works great. Been flat grinding for about 6 or 7 years with this set up. I do all my profilling with a 10'' wheel and work rest then finish up free hand with small wheels and platen. Profilling with platen is hard on belts and the platen, a wheel works much better. Thanks for all the info guys, I'm going to buy another grinder soon and I'm leaning to either a KMG or another B-111. I like the idea of the Bader attachment fitting the KMG.

Don Hanson lll
 
the45guy said:
do you use the bader platen as is ? I am thinking of using this one to hog out with and making another , getting it machined and then adding the ceramic to it for total flatness.... I supposed it isnt good to hog out a profile against the ceramic ?
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Before I ever had a pyroceram platen, I used to flatten my platen on the disk sander.......About once a week!!

I'm not real familiar with the BIII platen, but wouldn't that work for the Bader?:confused: Save you some machining costs if it would.

I would profile with the contact wheel. Way faster, less wear and tear on the machine and you, better belt life, and it's much less noisy.

Using the contact wheel, I can profile a blade out of a full bar faster than I can saw it out on the bandsaw.

I just use the saw to take off the big chunks now, to keep metal dust to a minimum.
 
great idea Mike , but I dont have a disk sander yet....I will get it flat somehow. I was just a bit disappointed that platen was flat from the get go. I love every thing about the machine except the platen.
 
I have 5 Baders in my shop-4 BM2's and a Space Saver. Variable speed is key! My non-variable speed machine is dedicated to the flat platen, and I run a very small drive wheel on this machine. I have no issue with the Bader platen. I've said it about 100 times in the various forums: Go to your local glass place and have them cut you 20 pieces of plate glass that are 1/4" wider than the platen and the same length. This will cost about $25. You can superglue them to the platen using green Zap-a-gap. Just put a lengthwise puddle on the platen and float the glass in place. Spray with kicker, all around the edges and it will cure in about 30 seconds.
This is the flattest platen you'll ever get, and, it doesn't warp, ever. At some point the glass will crack-I have gotten 6 months of use off a piece. When it cracks, it does not fly all over the place, and, it isn't dangerous to you when it cracks. Just knock it off with a hammer and glue on another piece.
Dan Johnson told me this 20 years ago, and, it works.
 
What exactly does the rotary platen on the KMG do? it seems that it would give a convex grind of varying degrees.
Daniel Krohn
 
Thanks. Wilkins, Neet. Really like the new Platen system. think I'll order one for the Bader. Not Bad Not bad at all! M. Lovett
 
Daniel Krohn said:
What exactly does the rotary platen on the KMG do? it seems that it would give a convex grind of varying degrees.
Daniel Krohn
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You are right, sir!!
 
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