Grohmann folder vs Buck 110?

I have one of the Grohmann Folding Belt knives.

The shape of the handle and the blade make it a perfect folding hunter. The blade also has gimping on the spine.
It's a little lighter than the 110 because the frame is thinner but it's still well built.
From what I've been told Grohmann is pretty well regarded in Canada.

As far as worth, that's subjective, IMO opinion you're paying for the design and Grohmann's reputation for producing good hunting knives.
The materials used are no better than the buck and for the price of the Grohmann, you could get a premium 110, but nothing really feels like the Gromann in your hand.

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So many replies in such a short time.

Pinnah the Buck I picked up is a "4" dot marked blade (2 dots on each side). The blade is more blended in it's grind, not showing too many sharp angles like the new models I see around. I think I'll just keep this Buck and pass on the Grohmann 380.

Lodd you might be right, I think the Grohmann 380 might just be an overpriced Buck copy in the end.
I like the 380s looks, but the fixed blade Grohmanns like the #1 and #3 etc just look like a kitchen knife with a leather sheath to me.

JPD I do find your folder interesting as well.
 
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pinnah said:
You can get a Buck with a more carbide rich steel for much less than that Grohmann. IMO, that particular Grohmann is a just a Buck 110 drop point knock off for people who prefer the Grohmann name on their knife (much like the Schrade LB-7 was back in the day). The Grohmann that I find more interesting is the Russell design.

I love Bucks and carry one most days. Generally their metal bolstered knives are great. But in fairness, I got a limited run drop point flat ground 110 from Copper and Clad for Christmas and it came out of the box with a floppy blade that hits the blade well when closed and has considerable horizontal play when open. I'm confident that Buck will take care of it when I send it in, but I do need to send it in and that's a pain.

If it were me... I just use the heck out of the older 110 that you have for a bit. Is it a 2 dot version? If so, it has 440C steel. I do prefer the blade shape of the more modern 110s but the 2 dot 110s are considered real classics.

If you want a drop point, I would go the Buck custom shop or look at Copper and Clad or SK blades. I say this despite needing to send mine in to get tuned up.
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The older Schrade LB 7 was a Buck look alike with better steel.
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The new LB7s are junk.
 
afishhunter said:
Check SK Blades dot com (supporting dealer) they have a couple drop point 110's with CPM-154 blade steel.
'The Shield' has a blue FRN handle, and drop point CPM-154 blade for around $40.
'The Fox' has Nickle Silver bolsters and liners, and is fitted with orange G10 covers. Again, it has a drop point CPM-154 blade. It's under $100.

The 'Smoke Jumper' has a red FRN handle and clip point CPM-154 blade.

So far I've bought five knives from SK Blades. All have been 200% flaw free.

Buck's warranty is Forever, not merely "lifetime".
They also have a Spa Service. For under $10 they'll make your old knife look new.
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Ug. I shouldn't have read this post about skblades and the Bucks. :D

C'mon.....tax return....
 
Bad Ninja said:
The older Schrade LB 7 was a Buck look alike with better steel.
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The new LB7s are junk.
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Schrade used 440A on the stainless LB7's.
Buck used 440C up until c.1981 then 425M until the early 1990's, when they switched to 420HC.
Schrade did not "have a better steel".

I have a 7OT and 6OT from before Schrade closed, and I have a couple of the Taylor Schrade 7OT's.
Other than a slight difference in the scale/cover coloring (big deal, does not affect the function, and prevents someone from passing off the new as an old) I cannot see any difference between them. Both have 440A blades, good fit and finish, and no blade wobble open or closed.
Both the US Schrade and Taylor Schrade hold a useable edge over the same number of deer.
 
afishhunter said:
Schrade used 440A on the stainless LB7's.
Buck used 440C up until c.1981 then 425M until the early 1990's, when they switched to 420HC.
Schrade did not "have a better steel".

I have a 7OT and 6OT from before Schrade closed, and I have a couple of the Taylor Schrade 7OT's.
Other than a slight difference in the scale/cover coloring (big deal, does not affect the function, and prevents someone from passing off the new as an old) I cannot see any difference between them. Both have 440A blades, good fit and finish, and no blade wobble open or closed.
Both the US Schrade and Taylor Schrade hold a useable edge over the same number of deer.
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The LB7 pictured in my post is circa 1979, USA made, has been used hard by me for decades, and will still shave your mom.
It's the Schrade+ stainless.
Similar Old Timers were the same style with 1095 blades and Delrin scales.
The older Schrades were superior to the older Bucks. Better made, and better performing steel.

The new Taylor Schrades don't even come close.

The Buck below is a two year old Walmart offering, in 440 with the better Heat treat that Buck uses today.
It's a fine knife, but still the lesser of the two shown.
 
dont own a grohmann, but I expect build quality is there. 2 to 3x times as ya said better than buck ....i wouldnt think. buck makes a solid quality knife and backs for a lifetime. they wouldnt do that if they didnt build top quality.

i prefer buck myself. more steel and blade choices in the 110.......but I wouldnt run from the other one if that's what ya want.
 
I might be tempted to go the Grohmann route as no matter how much I try I still cannot seem to warm up to the hollow grind of the Buck. I now own 6 different versions of the 110, some with better steel, some with drop points, one with micarta so I have been trying to warm up to them..... My ideal 110 would be s30v drop point FLAT grind but I have yet to find one. I'm sure most would say my tastes aren't that modern that a Buck wouldn't hold a treasured place in my collection and I dearly want to hold them in high esteem as my Dad carried one for most of his older years but they keep falling short of perfect with me.

Edit to add the latest thing I noticed: 5 out of the 6 Buck knives purchased last year have small chips toward the point of the blades. I'm guessing from hitting part of the inside frame when closed. The Micarta is the only one that doesn't seem to hit. Possible manufacturing error?
 
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CableGirl said:
I might be tempted to go the Grohmann route as no matter how much I try I still cannot seem to warm up to the hollow grind of the Buck. I now own 6 different versions of the 110, some with better steel, some with drop points, one with micarta so I have been trying to warm up to them..... My ideal 110 would be s30v drop point FLAT grind but I have yet to find one. I'm sure most would say my tastes aren't that modern that a Buck wouldn't hold a treasured place in my collection and I dearly want to hold them in high esteem as my Dad carried one for most of his older years but they keep falling short of perfect with me.

Edit to add the latest thing I noticed: 5 out of the 6 Buck knives purchased last year have small chips toward the point of the blades. I'm guessing from hitting part of the inside frame when closed. The Micarta is the only one that doesn't seem to hit. Possible manufacturing error?
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my bad, 420hc
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My point exactly, always a near miss. Thanks very much for the effort but as you mention, still 420HC. I do prefer the brass also ;)

I cant be that picky, right?
 
cchu518 said:
That folding belt knife is really cool!

PS 440a with a good heat treat is a fine regular everyday steel and with solid rust resistance.
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I never said 440A wasn't a good blade steel.
I'd guess 80% of my knives with stainless steel blades use 440A.
The fact remains though, that 440C and 425M are "better" steels than 440A. (440C was the original "super steel", after all.)
Depending on the edge geometry, they can be harder to sharpen though.
I know the early 110's were harder to get an edge on than the Schrade 7OT and 6OT are/were due mainly to the edge geometry.
 
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You can still find the USA made LB7 in excellent shape. I bought 2 for about 30 each. New Buck 110 is more refined, LB7 is a bit heavier.

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