Gso-7/7

I always wondered about this... isn't there an crowdfunding escrow service that companies can use for things like this? Buyers put money in. Sellers put in a fixed ship date. If the escrow hits the right amount, the company makes the product and ships by the deadline. If the funds aren't sufficient to pay off the project or if the seller is late, the project is cancelled and funds are returned. No one loses anything, not even trust.

I've read a lot of threads and posts about people paying for stuff up front and never seeing anything by promised dates. No one would have to question sellers' motives if the funds were handled like they are in any other situation where up-front funding must be promised but not guaranteed until all obligations are fulfilled.
 
^^^^^ I've never heard of this before, but I like it a lot better than someone trying to rally customers to ask for refunds so the company closes.
 
I haven't ordered a 7/7, but I'm starting to think about it. Dern, that one looks nice. I wish I had a need for it. Generally, up from the 5.1, I go with a hatchet or an axe.

Now, if I really start considering one, would I have any problems laying down the dough given recent delays on other models? Nope, but that's just me, and I have a 4.7 on order, so I understand the anticipation. I know the dates are approximations or projections. Again, this is just me, I want the best knife possible, not the fastest knife possible, so maybe I'll really think about the 7/7. Man, that's a beauty. In Delta 3V too...huh.... Ya see, it's that Delta 3V business that's like a siren's song. Once I hear Delta 3V, I start drooling and the Cheerios fall from my mouth. Now what do I do....
 
Based on most everything else, they shouldn't even project a time frame. "Order it, and we promise we'll get you the best knife possible in the shortest time we can do that. We hope to do it in the next 6 months, it it could be a year or more, depending on what other projects we start" (CruV, which, BTW, I am still overjoyed to have received, and am incredibly pleased with). That would be actual truth in advertising… although it is likely to bring in less orders… probably.
 
From what I see S!K is biting on more than what they can chew. There are just too many models up for one guy to handle all the orders. Many models available for the customers are good if they have a big team churning out knives for the masses, but Guy is the only one doing the sharpening now and this is the cause of the bottleneck. They might be better off offering only a few models with limited quantities each time so this way they are able to monitor their time frame and production capabilities? Having said this, I want to add that I personally don't mind the wait as long as I am guaranteed the knife I want. I have been wanting a Jacklore knife and it is utterly frustrating when I keep seeing "We are not taking orders for the meantime" posted on the web.
 
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From what I see S!K is biting on more than what they can chew. There are just too many models up for one guy to handle all the orders. Many models available for the customers are good if they have a big team churning out knives for the masses, but Guy is the only one doing the sharpening now and this is the cause of the bottleneck. They might be better off offering only a few models with limited quantities each time so this way they are able to monitor their time frame and production capabilities? Having said this, I want to add that I personally don't mind the wait as long as I am guaranteed the knife I want. I have been wanting a Jacklore knife and it is utterly frustrating when I keep seeing "We are not taking orders for the meantime" posted on the web.
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Not a bad idea, but you are off way wayy off on timing. That ship has long gone and sailed. There are currently 10 different models that have ALREADY been purchased, ordering closed, and pending building- one- model -at -a -time... That can't be undone.
And despite the wording, in all fairness, no they are not "guaranteed" in the event of health, financial, unforeseeable stuff that can happen between now and several years out.
But yes, in the short time they have been in business, yes they have never missed a shipment. So you have that, which is good. Also it stands to reason that the closer your model is to being done in the que, the higher degree of reassurance you can take comfort in you WILL get your knife.



On a side tangent, I am sure SK! is getting as tired of those that armchair quarterback as those that repeat the same sentiment. lol.
 
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Since this might be my best opportunity to score some Delta 3V I jumped into pool for the 7/7.
I'm not fast enough for the Monday sales, those sales seem to be mostly 20CV, and I haven't seen much 3V in the limited edition section so far.
I expect the 4.1 in Delta 3V to be ridiculously popular, and although I'll try to snag one of them this way I have something nailed down.
 
Fancier said:
Since this might be my best opportunity to score some Delta 3V I jumped into pool for the 7/7.
I'm not fast enough for the Monday sales, those sales seem to be mostly 20CV, and I haven't seen much 3V in the limited edition section so far.
I expect the 4.1 in Delta 3V to be ridiculously popular, and although I'll try to snag one of them this way I have something nailed down.
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I think that's smart. Lead-times being what they are, me personalty am no longer a fan of the preorder. But I think you have found a smart alternative on jumping on the "presales".

In fact, I think the "presales" may actually be the magic bullet to solving Survive's model and PR issues. The huge gap between indefinite preorders, and the frantic monday sales becomes bridged with presales. This could be thing that makes everyone happy. The presales can help strike a balance on all fronts... Preorders that bow out with refunds can be converted over to presales along with any overstock. And for those that don't like the months to year wait on presales, you can take your chances with monday sales and seconds. I think this could be the solution that could set things right with all people. Also, Survive! has a graduated discount with preorders, presales, monday sales making even more sense and more fair.

So the way it works for example is this..

Survive puts up model X Preorder discounted at 10%. and takes in 100 orders. Once 100 preorders come in for Model X, SK! closes the preorder sales and orders material for 120 (20 overstock). By the time model X gets close to final production build, SK! winds up with 5 Refunds. SK! near final stages, THEN puts up the limited time "presales" to sell out the overstock+any refunds.. at 5% discount. Then of course you have the monday sales of 2nds wich will be ones that didn't make the cut for firsts. Everyone is happy.
 
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I now wish that i would have passed on the pre orders and just waited for the pre sales and Monday sales. That way I don't have to make a one to two year financial commitment to a knife. I attempted to call (and email) Survive yesterday to cancel the Gso 12. After thinking about it, I rarely use knives that big and I could free up some credit card space. The long wait times get me thinking about the other things that I could do with that cash. I should have my 4.7 in hand by Christmas and I will just wait on the 6, which I am really excited about.
 
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The current status of the 7/7 sales page is now "available soon".
It looks like you can order one, and the only difference I see is that the order item no longer says "presale".
Edit: As of 12/7/2016 they are unavailable again.
 
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Riz! said:
I was hoping that for the 12 that I missed
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Who am I kidding, I'll likely try to score most of them if they aren't up to muster and get slated as the Uglies.

I'm buying them to put them to use so I don't mind whatsoever if there's some marring/ding/uneven jimp. :D
 
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