Recommendation? Guard Material for Counter Terrorism Knife

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I’ve been working on a knife I drew up that didn’t seem to have any definite purpose (or so I thought). The only reason I started making it is because I think it looks cool. As I was looking at a knife website today I saw a category of knife I wasn’t familiar with, the counter/anti terrorism knife. At first they just looked like normal knives but, the longer I looked at them, the more I thought “If you could get close enough to the terrorist you’re trying to counter it just might work.” At that point it hit me like a bolt of lightning, the knife I’ve been working on was a counter-terrorism knife all along. I just didn’t know they existed.

Anyway, I’m trying to figure out what guard material to use for it. Obviously it’s got to be dark, like dark dark, and subtle because…sneaky… I’m thinking maybe 1018 and etching or bluing it but was curious what y’all use on your counter-terrorism knives.
 
all the counter terrorism knives that I make are so dark that most people can't see them, and if they can they're probably a terrorist, and by the time they see it, it's too late.
 
IMHO, a knife that may be used in combat needs a guard strong enough to keep a parried cut off your hand and configured to keep your hand from sliding onto the blade in a hard thrust. Many materials meet that pair of criteria. Additional factor is that the guard does not hang up or interfere with deployment of the knife.
 
Lorien said:
all the counter terrorism knives that I make are so dark that most people can't see them, and if they can they're probably a terrorist, and by the time they see it, it's too late.
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Burned about 1000 calories with that belly laugh.
 
Lorien said:
all the counter terrorism knives that I make are so dark that most people can't see them, and if they can they're probably a terrorist, and by the time they see it, it's too late.
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That’s exactly what I’m going for. I thought about carbon fiber but it would be so fast it wouldn’t be remotely fair. I’ll probably go with a double or maybe even triple lug guard design. I just have to keep weight under control for halo jumps and such.
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It should look like this. Take careful note of the multiple flashlights. Two is one, one is none.

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Yeah, I figured it was Jay Fisher's knife he was talking about. Counter-terrorism is just a new buzz word for a combat knife. Early types were the Karambit and Kabar. Rambo changed that to add screen effect ... because bigger is always better, then they were Zombie slayers, now it is terrorists.

They should fit these boxes:
1) Non- reflective ... usually black
2) Not too heavy ... gear weight is a big issue with most military folks in-field.
3) Very strong ... While taking out bad guys is a good sales image, most likely they will open crates and cut clothing.
4) Multi-function ... Wire cutters, flashlights. hammer butts, etc. Definitely a kydex sheath with molly holes/clips.
5) Not too large to hide or carry easily ... Sorry Rambo, but most military regulations won't allow a monster knife like yours.

For a durable black coating, Cerakote and many other coatings are the most popular. For decades, Parkerizing was also popular. For light and strong, materials like titanium and zircon guards. For simple and affordable, any of te newer strong and tough steels will work. To lighten them, cut out the tang and add holes where they won't be a stress riser. Jay

Fisher uses a modified reverse-karambit idea of a pistol grip knife. Its main factor is a cool look. Every special-opps guys I knew preferred a standard Loveless style chute knife or larger Kabar style blade.
Almost all of them prefer to shoot a terrorist instead of stabbing them.
 
Lynne Thompson on bowie knife guards and fighting. I have also seen a thing called a nagle that comes out the side and sits over the hand.

I think your tactical knife would start looking a bit weird though


 
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