Guardians of The Lambsfoot!

"occasional outbreaks of sun"
We have occasional outbreaks of Winter. 🙃
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Stay cool, my friend... that sounds like a yearbook signature from the 70s. 🤣
But at least you live on a lake... it sounds like a fun way to cool off.
 
I think I'm going to treat myself to a Double Lambsfoot Day, maybe if I rub these two together, and say "SHAZAM!", the sun will come out! :D
Maybe. Hope so. The walkers and the 2X Lambs are quite handsome. Forgive me Jack, but I found the jousting entertaining. There are reasons this thread has lasted. Your seemingly tireless steadfastness is the big one. Protecting your vision is what Guardians do. Cheers.

Good Morning Guardians
 
Good Morning Guardians
I found this cool birds nest when I went out to shoot my pictures this morning...
Very cool picture John. I used to pick up bird nests all the time when I was a kid. My grandma always told me I shouldn’t because birds are dirty and the nests are full of germs. I guess that’s why she always had a bird bath in her flower garden! 😄
 

There are two kinds of Damascus. The old school kind like on samurai swords is done the way the Michael May blades are. It’s a heat treating process during forging that uses clay to apply the heat treatment differently in different spots. As I understand it, this affects the crystalline structure of the steel increasing the strength and still allowing the blade to flex. Very few knives are made this way today. Up until recently it was considered a lost art. May knows someone who researched the process and makes the blades for him.

The typical fancy patterned Damascus you see is called pattern welded, which involves bonding layers of different kinds of steel together. This process has been popular since the 1970s and almost all the Damascus you see is this kind.

Here’s more info on the two types of Damascus https://blog.knife-depot.com/how-to-tell-real-damascus/

I believe there are two distinct concepts being conflated in this discussion. My understanding is that the pattern in Damascus steel comes from the process of how the steel is formed and forged, regardless of whether it is crucible steel or pattern welded.

The clay tempering method that you describe is a differential hardening technique that creates a hamon. As far as I know, it is not related to, or dependent on, Damascus steel.

The wavy pattern on your blade looks similar to me to those that I found when googling for "clay tempering".

Edited to add: I'm not a metallurgist and I could be mistaken. Jack points out below that traditional hamon patterns are different.
 
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The grass is always greener and things could always be better... but on the flip side, things could be a lot worse.
Very true my friend :) :thumbsup:
Dad was entertained by the "occasional outbreaks of sun" that featured so prominently in the English weather forecasts when we were in the caravan.
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And, "How do they grow so much grass with no sun?"
Oh no! :eek: :D British caravans weren't spacious or big on facilities back than either! :eek: I went to a camping event in the Lake District 10 years back. It was held in the exact place that has the highest annual rainfall in England. It never stopped raining, hard, from the moment we arrived, to the moment we left a week later. During the week, the campsite flooded 3 times, and we only just got away before the river burst its banks and came over the road. When I asked one of the organisers why on earth they had picked that spot, when it has the highest recorded average rainfall in England, she told me, "Oh, I thought those were just statistics!" :eek: :rolleyes: 🤣
Good morning Guardians. Going to be a hot one here today also, with storms moving in tonight and tomorrow. For now, I’ll just enjoy the cool temps, the bright sunshine, and my lamb. 😊View attachment 1832562
Hope those storms are gentle ones Todd :) Have a nice day with your Lamb my friend :thumbsup:
We have occasional outbreaks of Winter. 🙃
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Stay cool, my friend... that sounds like a yearbook signature from the 70s. 🤣
But at least you live on a lake... it sounds like a fun way to cool off.
LOL! 😀 Every day is the first day of the rest of your life my friend! :D ;) :thumbsup:
Doing some weed eating later before the rain gets here, and I just might have to jump in the lake to cool off. 😎👍
If prices go up any further here, I might be weed-eating here myself! :eek: ;) :thumbsup:
Good Morning Guardians
I found this cool birds nest when I went out to shoot my pictures this morning...
They are such amazing structures aren't they? That's made for a really cool pic John :cool: :) :thumbsup:
Maybe. Hope so. The walkers and the 2X Lambs are quite handsome. Forgive me Jack, but I found the jousting entertaining. There are reasons this thread has lasted. Your seemingly tireless steadfastness is the big one. Protecting your vision is what Guardians do. Cheers.

Good Morning Guardians
Thank you kindly Harvey, I'm always keen to learn ;) Fabulous pic of your AC my friend, your photos always set my stomach grumbling! :D ;) :thumbsup:
 
Came in the mail from Sheffield yesterday...

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I believe there are two distinct concepts being conflated in this discussion. My understanding is that the pattern in Damascus steel comes from the process of how the steel is formed and forged, regardless of whether it is crucible steel or pattern welded.

The clay tempering method that you describe is a differential hardening technique that creates a hamon. As far as I know, it is not related to, or dependent on, Damascus steel.

The wavy pattern on your blade looks similar to me to those that I found when googling for "clay tempering".

So that's a hamon on the blade (brought the pic forward)? That's interesting. I've not seen one quite like that before :thumbsup:

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Wow! That's a very impressive-looking sammich Greg! :cool: Great pics my friend, looks delicious :) Nice pic of your Lambsfoot too :thumbsup:

Great to have your thoughts, but just to clarify, this is the LAMBSFOOT thread, rather than the Sheepsfoot thread. I think you are probably aware of the distinction, but if not, please read the first couple of pages of this thread, and definitely read post #1 in entirety, as it contains some important information for posters. Just Lambsfoot knives here please :thumbsup:

I know of Russell White, but not Lee White?

Personally, I like stiff pulls on a Lambsfoot, having grown up with them, and I usually pinch open the blade, but I agree that Wright's can make them with overly stiff pulls. If you check out the Thread Index linked to in post #1, you'll find some good advice on lightening pulls a little, to make them manageable, if you struggle. I've never found TEW's knives too bad in that respect.

Is that blade Damascus, it doesn't look like it? I see May is selling blades with a 'forced patina' now. Yes, Desert Ironwood is expensive in Sheffield, but as you say, it is tough, and attractive :) I'm glad you like it, and hope you'll keep us posted. Welcome to the Guardians :thumbsup:


Thanks pal, that's a fantastic pic :) That war was a tough one! :thumbsup:


Good morning Guardians, I hope everyone is doing OK, and that the week is being kind to you so far. June 1st tomorrow, and it's wet and pretty cold here still. Hope it's not going to be another wash-out British summer, particularly as heating costs have doubled (and worse), and it's hard to get overseas for some sun because the airports here (and the passport office) are in such a mess! :rolleyes: At least we don't have to worry about drought, like some folks here. I think I'm going to treat myself to a Double Lambsfoot Day, maybe if I rub these two together, and say "SHAZAM!", the sun will come out! :D Have a good day Guardians :thumbsup:

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Great image Jack. I love old walking canes. Probably will be needing one someday too!
as Larry Finkelstein said, "You know, the idea that North is Up is a Eurocentric conceit".
Very good Jer.

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Great image Jack. I love old walking canes. Probably will be needing one someday too!
Thank you Dwight, you and me both brother! 😁 I usually take a staff out hiking with me, and it really makes a difference. Those two canes are both from the 19th century 👍
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That's great to hear 🙂 Two wonderful photos of your Damascus SFO 👍
Thanks Jack, you have a good one too. 😊
Thanks Todd 🙂👍
 
So that's a hamon on the blade (brought the pic forward)? That's interesting. I've not seen one quite like that before :thumbsup:

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I could very well be wrong, Jack. My post definitely should be taken with a "I'm not a metallurgist" disclaimer. I've edited my post to include that.
 
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Edited to add: I'm not a metallurgist and I could be mistaken. Jack points out below that traditional hamon patterns are different.
I'm sure there are others though Greg :thumbsup:
I could very well be wrong, Jack. My post definitely should be taken with a "I'm not a metallurgist" disclaimer. I've edited my post to include that.
I've always found you very knowledgeable Greg :thumbsup: I know a guy who can talk a dog's hind leg off about Damascus steel. I could ask him, but he is very, very boring! :D He and his mates often get together at the weekend, and spend a couple of days bashing away with their hammers to produce a bar of Damascus. I was at Abbeydale Industrial Hamlet Museum, in Sheffield, one time, when some of these folks were attempting to make steel using very primitive methods :thumbsup:

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