Gun for conceal carry

Revolver or Pistol?

Powernoodle's selection of a lightweight revolver makes a lot of sense for most people. Revolvers are very easy to shoot and keep shooting. They have enough rounds for a confrontation which statistically* hovers around 1.2 rounds exchanged at 7 feet distance.

Unless you are highly trained in the manipulation of a specific semi-auto pistol, don't think I would recommend that. Another statistic: 97% of all pistol operators believe they are above average.

I can handle a pistol with the best of them- but what is available at arms reach in my home? A revolver. Point and shoot. Being awake enough to absolutely identify something as a threat? Step one. Awake enough to manipulate a pistol? Maybe. Awake enough to clear a misfire or jam? Maybe maybe.

Same thing applies to stress while walking down the street. It gets a whole lot different when the paper target shoots back. A lot of fine motor skills and cursory training go out the window. If you fire three times a month of fifty rounds each and practice FTF drills while live and again back home, stop kidding yourself. There is a difference.

Keep it simple unless you are a professional. Revolvers may not be sexy, but no one was supposed to see it anyway.
 
i carry a S&W 442 on my ankle or a sp101 in side my belt.

3" barrel, in .357 like this one?
I like the 3" cause it gets more out of the .357 than the shorter tube.
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I just got my conceal carry permit and was wondering what gun to use. What guns do most people carry concealed? Whats a good size?

Well my pastor answers the question of "What Bible should I buy?" with "the one you will read". So the answer to "what firearm should I buy/use?" is "the one you will carry."

If you aren't familiar with the operation of a semi-automatic pistol then either train train train or buy a revolver. As far as caliber of weapon the answer is again the one you feel comfortable shooting (good shot placement with a .22 will still get the job done, but I feel more comfortable carrying a 9mm or larger handgun).


Also I would like to add that what ever you decide to purchace and learn how to use please buy a quality firearm (one that is made well and made to last) and not something that is simply inexpensive (and yes there are a few inexpensive firearms that are quality).


Dave
 
3" barrel, in .357 like this one?
I like the 3" cause it gets more out of the .357 than the shorter tube.
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To me its about the ability to conceal and carry comfortably. The extra inch of barrel makes a difference here, while the little bit of MV lost isn't an issue when you're up close and personal. Tap 2 to center mass and you're good to go.

If you're worried about MV, load your own. The 101 can handle it.
 
3" barrel, in .357 like this one?
I like the 3" cause it gets more out of the .357 than the shorter tube.
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thats a good duo ya got, good pistol and good knife too.

as far as revolver vs auto it just depnds on what ya like and how much time ya are willing to put in to learn how to handle a auto, to me the superior ergos of the auto offset the extra time ya need to put in, imho autos are slimmer and easier to edc too, but i could live with a S&W 642 .38 spl. or a colt detective special .38 without too much of a problem, in fact i did live with them for a while back in the day, but i carry a kahr P9 or PM9 now and like them a lot better for edc.
 
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My SP101 has barrel envy for Jill's barrel. :D

Not necessarily for CC, but a longer barreled SP101 would be nice to have.
 
Here are some interesting, very small weapons.

Here is a KelTec .32ACP; A Walther PPS 40cal; AMT DAO .45 ACP Back-Up; American derringer M1 .410 shotshell/.45 Long Colt
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This little KelTec has had some modifications. (Army tests show the .32ACP markedly superior to the .380)
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The KelTec .32 and two holsters (1 neck corded, one Tek-Lok belt)custom produced by CompTac (TX)

Two guns, although radically different, of a similar profile. The HK p7-PSP (the european M8) and the Walther PPS in 9mm or .40 cal
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Pretty thin profiles....
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Walther PPK/S available in .22, .380, and my preference, the .32 ACP
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Also see the HK M4 or the SIG

CDNN has the HK PSP's right now at what I think is a real deal.

The above is not likely to settle much, just to exhibit what is out there.
 
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You are use to a HK P2000, stick with that platform and look at the P2000SK. Can be had in .357, .40, and 9mm.
Why switch when you already have a winner???

Paul B12
 
Step one, is to get some good solid training on self defense with a firearm. OJT is not the best approach. I agree with the pocket carry idea. I did carry a gun the size of a brick on my hip in the beginning, and I do carry a J-Frame in the pocket now. If you're wearing a heavy coat and/or sitting in a car [in a bad area], you can move it to a coat pocket. ...pretty easy. Crimson Trace grips are excellent for a number of reasons. One of them, is that the little red dot can be intimidating, and you might not have to shoot. If you do, it is basically pull the trigger at the dot. Stick to double-action-only guns if you can. If you carry a revolver with a hammer, consider getting a replacement and bob it. Save the original, in case you sell it. Read up on Massad Ayoob and others like him when it comes to why you should carry a DAO gun. He's a good source on self defense information. ...and like I said... Get some training for your safety.
 
Depending on my clothing/weather, I carry one of these 2 and a seecamp 32 as backup.

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Im 5 foot 7 about 165, I do have fire arms exp, I use to be a federal agent we carried HK p2000. Thats the only hand gun I have experience with. Its a little large in my opinion for concealed carry. Just wanted to get your thoughts on what gun you use.

On that note, I carry an HK USP Compact in .357 Sig. The gun is an easy carry, shoots great, and is exceptionally reliable. It also comes with the added bonus of the intimidation factor. That round hits like a locomotive, but given the report and associated fireball most times it may not even be neceassry to hit anything. At the range it always seems to be the one weapon that has all the heads poking out from around the partitions the first time it's fired.
 
I currently carry a Ruger GP100 .357 with the 3" barrel and fixed "combat" sights. I had decided to downsize to the SP101. Until I saw their new offering. And if it tests out good for me, this will be my new personal carry...

http://www.ruger.com/LCR/

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Gibby
 
gibbyx, I've been looking at the LCR too. Like you, I want some production and user time before buying one. Especially after the LCP fiasco.

I switch between a M37, M60 and SP101. The SP is by far the strongest of the three, and eats full load .357 without a problem.
 
gibbyx, I've been looking at the LCR too. Like you, I want some production and user time before buying one. Especially after the LCP fiasco.

I switch between a M37, M60 and SP101. The SP is by far the strongest of the three, and eats full load .357 without a problem.

Dead on SPX. I still see an SP in my future but that LCR really has me excited. Like a new car model though, I'd rather drive it myself after the bugs get worked out.

As for the LCP, I have no experience, I just saw the recalls. But if you look at the revolver Ruger has put together, it seems kinda like simplicity redefined, ya know? I just hope it tests out good. .38 hots are good enough for a belly gun but I do love my Magnum. I think I paid $ 260ish for my GP100 back in '89and that thing is like gold to me.

But, back on topic. I am really excited about the LCR. If it doesn't pan out I'll go with the 101. I'm trying to downsize and need something a little more compact than my GP and, for MY requirements/needs/tastes, I want to stay with a wheelgun for CC. I also want to look at the S&W Airweights??? I think it is. No experience with those either.

Gibby
 
Here are some interesting, very small weapons.

Here is a KelTec .32ACP; A Walther PPS 40cal; AMT DAO .45 ACP Back-Up; American derringer M1 .410 shotshell/.45 Long Colt
IMG_2860.jpg


This little KelTec has had some modifications. (Army tests show the .32ACP markedly superior to the .380)
IMG_2864.jpg
IMG_2866.jpg

The KelTec .32 and two holsters (1 neck corded, one Tek-Lok belt)custom produced by CompTac (TX)

Two guns, although radically different, of a similar profile. The HK p7-PSP (the european M8) and the Walther PPS in 9mm or .40 cal
IMG_2871.jpg
IMG_2862.jpg


Pretty thin profiles....
IMG_2872.jpg
.........................................
IMG_2870.jpg


Walther PPK/S available in .22, .380, and my preference, the .32 ACP
IMG_2873.jpg

Also see the HK M4 or the SIG

CDNN has the HK PSP's right now at what I think is a real deal.

The above is not likely to settle much, just to exhibit what is out there.

Man, I'm a big HK fan but that Walther is still the most beautiful gun to me since the MP-5. I want one in each caliber. It's kinda funny 'cuz at the gun shows I'll be drooling over the little Walther .22 cal's and it's surrounded by Glocks, HK's, Hi Powers, etc.:p

Gibby
 
. I also want to look at the S&W Airweights??? I think it is. No experience with those either.

Gibby

I'd rather have someone repeatedly hit me in the head with a hammer than push load after load of .357's down the barrel of an Airweight. Punishing little guns, but at 15 ounces this is expected. The .38 +P can be a good SD load with the proper bullet, and is not nearly as bad for recoil.

I'm looking into a M360. Scandium, 1 7/8", .38 +P and only 13 ounces. Bud had one recently for a little over $ 400 NIB with a set of slightly bigger combat grips.
 
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