Guns Shop discussion

BG42EDGE said:
Another response:

"You know......you're absolutely right. Someone like you should not own a good knife."

And count your change carefully.

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heheheheh.... You are truly a judo master of turning b^77 $h#%^ logic against itself. :thumbup: :cool:
 
BG42EDGE said:
But remember, Pinnah......the Walmart/Kmart, Etc.....has been going on for a long time and gave Buck a big boost when they really needed it.

And at that time it couldn't have been done without the 110 and 119.
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I would like to hear more about that.
 
My favorite is when a guy tells me his"buck "knife won't hold an edge,and how he'll never ever buy another buck because they are crap,and then they show me KNOCK OFF WINCHESTER 110 LOOKALIKE ,Some people don't have a clue and associate and brass bolster folder with the 110,and they are not even close to a 110.lol
 
If I may reply in a similar vein, I ordered a knife from another maker back in the days when I was first learning about knives and their marketing schemes, receiving a blade I ordered made in Japan. No problem with that. When a similar offer was announced again I ordered a second identical knife only this time it came from China causing me considerable angst I almost tossed it in the trash--and I still might do that. Manufacturing must be brought back to US shores. There is a very strong market for USA knives like a market begging for quality merchandise that we can produce and sell to benefit everybody in the food chain. In the case of BUCK they fill a niche effectively well with best quality Idaho knives. Yes, they do have an import line and I hope it dries up soon leaving only USA blades and that comforting Made in the USA label. I love my country too much to give the Chinese a single red penny. -sevensix
 
No question about it: the outsourcing that Buck did hurt their reputation. It probably helped them survive as well. Double edged sword.
 
Interesting timing of this thread.

Earlier this week I picked up 2 of the Christmas tins with the 482s in them from Walmart to give to my cousins as a thank you gift for having me and my kid up to their hunting camp.

I really really dig the 482 as a camping/utility knife. It's a great blade and a great value.

But, there's no denying it. The light plastic handle feels *CHEAP*.

My cousins both carry various Buck fixed blades and have for as long as I've known them (forever) so I'm not too concerned that the cheapness of the 482 will diminish their regard for Buck. But, I definitely get how knives like the 482, even made in the US, could undercut the perception of Buck's quality.

Please don't get me wrong, I like the 482 and think it's a massive value. Sort of like an American Opinel. But that's the rub. A cheap knife image.

I hope Buck puts out more Paperstone knifes. The Ecolite 112 feels so much better in the hand. IMO, Buck needs more options like that. More solid feeling. Price em near $30.
 
I got Two Buck 395 Folding Omni Hunter Folding Knives (made in USA) from ChinaMart on clearance for $25 each last year.
 
Funny, my local gunshop is a dealer for Buck. They also deal Spyderco, Benchmade, Case, CRKT, Cold Steel, SOG, and Microtech.
 
My favorite retort by a salesman at a LGS was that Buck knives were all 'imported' and 'made in China', while their CRKT and and Benchmades were American made. I never saw a CR knife there - no Sebenzas, for sure. Loads of imported CRKTs, however - and quite a collection of Red Box Benchmades, products of the other side of the Pacific rim, too. When I pointed those two lines out to him - and showed him my pocketed Buck Custom Shop 110, he said I didn't have to shop there. I told him he was right - and don't shop there any more. Don't get me wrong - I love my Benchmades, too - all Black or Blue Box - US made. They dropped the imported Red Box line several years ago.

I had a similar reaction in another store - to Boker, despite their classic and newer Solingen-made line, some dealers still think all Bokers are Pacific rim imports - like their 'Magnum' and 'Plus' line. A line can be tainted easily - it's hard to recover.

Stainz
 
Don't get me wrong. I happened to have these two experiences very close to each other and it bugged me. It shouldn't but it did. There are a lot of very, very good gun shops that have extensive knowledge of knives and most have a really good selection.
 
Earlier someone stated that they realized why Buck makes some knives in China. So do I, greed. Plain and simple. I see no reason any manufacturer moves anything to China or anywhere else overseas other than profit margin. Why large and small companies don't have any loyalty to the American workers is just that. Money. That said, I am and will continue to enjoy all of my USA made knives of which many are Buck models. RP out....

SEMPER-FI TIL I DIE
 
No, it's not always greed.

Sometimes it's about surviving.

And when a good knife company goes under......then suddenly ALL the knives are made in China--and quality probably goes down overall.

So sometimes a few concessions are a matter of necessity.

:)
 
Maybe you are.

I'm not.

If you'd rather see Buck go out of business and buy all your knives from China......well, that's your choice.
 
So when all products are eventually made elsewhere you will be ok with that?
 
No, I wouldn't be ok with that.

It's not going to happen anyway, so why ask?

Buck is decreasing its percentage of Chinese-made knives and flourishing.
 
I just purchased a few more Buck knives. I do not trust salesman opinion. I look to see on the knife/package where it is made. As of about four years ago I refuse to own any China knives. Buck can sell all the China knives they want, but not to my family. I own nothing made in China that I care about. Just landfill stuff.
 
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