Guyot Steel water bottle

Marcelo Cantu

Marcelo Cantu

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I've had mine for about 5 months now and aside from being able to boil water in it, I think I'm about done with it. It's heavier than a Nelgene (or equivalent), and makes the water taste like crap. Yeah it looks cool but who cares. I usually have m GSI cup nested with it anyway so I'm thinking it's redundant. I think I'm going to put this one away and go back to my nalgene. I may still use it for man-camping but for hiking, which is my true love anyway, i just don't see the benefit.

Unless someone has a reasonable idea to improve the taste of my water in it. What are your thoughts?
 
Interesting. What kind of water are you using it for - tap/city water? Are you dropping in any kind of treatment tablets from foraged water on your hikes?

I've used mine for about a year but only with bulk bottled water from the house. The question that I have wanted to ask here for awhile is - has anyone used it with water treatment chemicals? I have not.

When I bought it, I first asked the company if they had any info on how the steel reacts with iodine or chlorine treatment tabs and they had zero info to give me. Said they just didn't know. I personally like using it, but as my home water source is stored in the big Lexan bottles - it's really a moot point, I guess.
 
I'm sort of with you. I bought a steel bottle mainly so I could boil water in it, but I always carry my old GI canteen cup for that anyway. So the bottle is just more weight. I don't have the taste issue though. But I pretty much just went back to plastic.
 
Bleach can cause stainless steel to rust, probably sterilising tablets will too as they are similar oxidisers. If you haven't used them in it though... no idea.

I've used mine with both tap water and bottled water for about a year, almost every day at work. No problems here.

Personally I prefer the steel bottles because they are less likely to be punctured. I don't mind the extra weight - I carry more on my 'person' that I should get rid of first ;)
 
You've drank from my Guyot before, did you notice any funny taste in that?
 
Yeah but I thin you have a quicker turnaround time for your water so that may be it. What do you guys think of using baking soda as a pre-rinse every so often? Mainly it's a heavy metallic taste.

Also as I've mentioned to Tony, there was a label on the bottom of mine that sais "not for hot liquids". I wonder if that is just to prevent burns or because there is/was some kind of lining.
 
I wonder if you use heavily chlorinated water, or chlorine dioxide purification tabs if that would react enough with the steel to cause a taste?

The warning is because if you store hot liquids, you can burn yourself when you pick up the now hot steel bottle.
 
That's why I asked him. He did not answer.

My taste buds are high end and I can't stand most municipal water if I go to a restaurant. I can just smell the chlorine and whatever else they put in there. I would imagine that would do a number on stainless steel water bottles if that is your source, let alone adding treatment tabs.

Maybe the Sigg bottles are the way to go. I think they have a polymer liner? What is the new replacement material for the old Lexan bottles made of?
 
Marcelo, scrub the bajesus out of it (with the ruff side of a sponge), there is a residue in them from manufacturing that might be causing the taste. Clean stainless steel doesn't leave an after taste in water (maybe long term). I'm literally a freak about the taste (or lack of) of water. I boil all my tap water and put it in Nalgenes (both type of plastics), Kleens, Guyots and Sigs. The only one that leaves a container taste is the non PCB Nalgene. There is the possibility your just getting the true taste of the water, my tap water has a bit of a taste if not boiled.

Yup, the sticker is so you don't put hot liquid in it, burn yourself and then sue them. After years of Nalgene use, I found out the hard way how well steel conducts heat :eek:.
 
These days you have a choice in hard water bottles. HDPE - Mil Spec canteens and the opaque cheaper Nalgene Bottles. Poly Carbonate/Lexan used in the very popular over the years hard plastic Nalgene, Camelback and other bottles - supposedly leaches BPA, Tri-Polyester - the hard plastic BPA-free replacement for PC/Lexan spawned by the BPA fear, Stainless - found on a number of bottles these days, lined aluminum found in SIGG, and straight up aluminum found in some cheap bottles at Walmart, Target, etc. I use currently at HDPE, Steel, and Tri-polyester. I have my PC bottles in backup as I slowly replaced them with Tri-Polyester. I have detected strange tastes in HDPE - just a plastic taste that usually goes away with time. This is with multiple water sources, from the hard water of municipal supplies, to the state supply, to streams with boiling or tablets. I do however wash my bottles regularly. Its the only thing I can think of that might make a difference.
 
I know what you mean about the metallic taste - I get the same thing but I don't mind it. Guess it just reminds me I'm drinking from steel instead of plastic that may be leaching a little bisphenol-A. :D

I think scrubbing it might help - and maybe changing the water often. I tend to notice it when waters been sitting in it for a few days. I put my tap water through a Brita filter before it goes into the guyot but I still get that metallic taste sometimes.

Still I love it - unless I'm really trying to conserve weight when hiking or camping it's what I take. I can fill it up in a stream and sterilize it over a fire - just not a fan of having to chemically treat water in order to drink it.

Scrubbing the wood-smoke resin off of it after a camping trip isn't much fun though! :o

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I've been using a Kleen Kanteen stainless steel water bottle daily for the past six months. I use tap water, and either chill it in the fridge overnight or add ice cubes. I have not noticed any strange taste to the water.

AJ
 
I haven't had any strange tastes with mine. Sorry about yours though. :o

I've made ramen in mine before, so the ability to boil water in it is a huge plus. I typically carry some mac-and-cheese "emergency rations" in my bag just in case I get hungry on a hike or something. :D
 
I haven't tried stainless steel bottles as of yet, but I have noticed a slight metallic taste when using the GSI Space Saver SS cup that I keep on the bottom of my Nalgene. The titanium Snowpeak 700 doesn't leave any taste of course and also fits on the bottom of a Nalgene, although a little loosely.

Marcelo Cantu, I think the obvious answer is to simply send me your Guyot. Problem solved! Oh, and thanks for the water bottle. If your GSI cup is bothering you too, feel free to send that along with it. I'm here to serve.
 
There was some good info on the chlorine dioxide and iodine in stainless bottle thing a little while ago in another thread: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=631316 :thumbup: Especially take a look at Desmobobs post #9:

desmobob said:
The good folks at reduce Products responded very quickly (despite it being Saturday) to tell me it's fine to use MicroPUR tablets to treat water in my reduce brand stainless water bottles:

"There is no concern over using chlorine on 18/8 or 18/10 Stainless Steel.
The steel is strong enough to withstand the harshness of the chlorine.

Chlorine will cause 18/0 stainless steel to rust and corrode, and it also
weakens plastics over time."


The "no chlorine products" warning note was actually intended to prevent eventual damage to the plastic cap by chlorine cleansers, they explained.

BTW, some quick research shows that reduce and Kleen Kanteen bottles are 18/8 stainless and Guyot are 18/10. :thumbup:

So far, so good.

Stay sharp,
desmobob
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I love my guyot, carry it just in case I need to boil water. I don't mind the weight either and haven't noticed any aftertaste with mine. I do give it a cleaning with a brush or some uncooked rice every once in a while. I'm in the opposite camp and often take just the bottle and not the cup if hiking; I figure if I find myself really needing to boil water for some reason, I'm going to want to be boiling a liter rather than a cup or two at a time.


ETA: I think a good baking soda solution wash would help :thumbup:
 
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I haven't weighed my 38oz Guyot and compared it to a regular lexan Nalgene, but I suspect that the heavy-duty cap on the Guyot may be partly to blame for the increased weight. Nalgene sells replacement tops that should fit if you are trying to shave off a few grams.

Like I said, I haven't put these on a scale, but the Guyot lid seems heavier.
 
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