Hamons - What substrate do you use to coat blade?

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alclark2

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I've been researching what people use to coat the blade. Specifically branded hamon goop, Satanite, clay, hardware store furnace cement, and custom mixes..

Goop is a little expensive but how much of this would you really use. I assume it works. I'm not opposed to trying it.
A bag of Satanite would probably last me a life time. Providing it works and sticks to the blade well.
I've heard clay will not stick to the blade well during quench.
Furnace cement. I need to inspect this at the store. For all I know, it may be Satanite.
I don't know of any custom mixes.

What are you using on your hamons?
 
I use both Satanite and Dap furnace cement. They work about the same as far as I can tell. The furnace cement sticks a little better. The satanite is easier to mix to an exact consistency desired. Either will blow off in the quench or bubble up when heating if they're not completely dry before going into the furnace.
 
I've been using Rutlands black furnace cement. The biggest tip I have with using it is to make sure it is 100% dry or it will bubble up and fall off as soon as it hits the oil when quenching. I let the cement sit on the blade overnight, then to make sure it is completely dry I take a propane torch and go over all of it.
Here is a recent one I did with this method..IMG_20170823_052010_240.jpg
 
I sometimes just bake the clay in the tempering oven at 200F for an hour or so, if I don't want to wait for it to dry out or if it's so humid it wouldn't dry overnight.
 
I cultivated my own blend by using free range grown corn silk from local farmers, carefully turned into charcoal in a kiln I made that's dedicated to this purpose, mixed with diatomaceous earth I sourced from an aerospace industry provider that was used to filter biological wastes in the Biosphere project, as well as carefully blended clays I got from reconstituted Das Brand air hardening modeling clay pressed through a cheesecloth and formed into little butter lambs on Easter.


Naah, I'm just fv€£ing with ya. I use satanite.
 
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I like Rutlands.
 
Matthew Gregory said:
I cultivated my own blend by using free range grown corn silk from local farmers, carefully turned into charcoal in a kiln I made that's dedicated to this purpose, mixed with diatomaceous earth I sourced from an aerospace industry provider that was used to filter biological wastes in the Biosphere project, as well as carefully blended clays I got from reconstituted Das Brand air hardening modeling clay pressed through a cheesecloth and formed into little butter lambs on Easter.


Naah, I'm just fv€£ing with ya. I use satanite.
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What, no organic fed Boer goat droppings? Really helps it stick.
 
I guess I should have made some attempts at this. Can hamons be created on or in stainless blade making steels?
Frank
 
Frank Niro said:
I guess I should have made some attempts at this. Can hamons be created on or in stainless blade making steels?
Frank
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Only shallow hardening simple steels Frank. 1075, 1080, 1095, W1, W2 all work.
 
And Forged Integral Bolster...Suuuuuweet!!
 
kuraki said:
Only shallow hardening simple steels Frank. 1075, 1080, 1095, W1, W2 all work.
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There was one guy (Phil Hartsfeld????) who did it with A2, iirc, but I think that was more of a "let's see if I could do it."
 
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