Handle Problems With My HI Bolo

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Yesterday I took my new HI Bolo over to a cousin's house, hoping to test it. I got the opportunity in the form of a felled tree that hadn't been completely bucked yet.



After thirty to forty minutes of chopping, most of the tree was in more manageable portions, thanks to the bolo.



Except for some dulling, the blade held up just fine. I would say that this chops about as well as my 18" AK. Making the blades a tad thinner, maybe 3/8" or 7/16", would likely help the bolo make deeper cuts, though it did well enough as is. FWIW, Bob White's Bolo came in at 3/8" thick and it still weighed 2lbs, the weight he wanted. Blows made with the blade near the tip didn't cause too much vibration.

Unfortunately, the handle didn't fare as well. Within ten minutes of chopping, I noticed some rattling and a bit of play. I looked at the handle and found the problem.



There was about a 1mm gap between the bolster and where the handle used to meet. There was also a bit of play between the bolster and the blade. I wanted to see if added chopping would do anything else to the handle, so I continued. If the handle hadn't been pinned I likely wouldn't have done this. The gap between the bolster and handle didn't enlarge any, but the handle suffered three separate cracks. The worst was on the bottom of the handle.



Another crack extended from the handle to the right rivet/pin.



The third crack at the top of the handle. I took a picture of it, but it was small enough that it really didn't show up.

As I was working, I noticed bits of black particles that were coming out the bottom crack. They stained my hands black like charcoal would, so I would say the bits were from when the tang was burned into the handle as part of the fitting process. I can't remember if this is standard procedure for partial tangs of not, but it might have had contributed to the handle failure.

I've already taken the bolo to the post office to be returned to Yangdu. I'm interested in seeing what she thinks went wrong with the handle. I'll email her shortly with a heads up about this.

Bob
 
Send it back to HI for replacement.

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i'm sure a crafty person could rehandle that bad boy, say, in G10? or cocobolo? :> corian? a leather disc affair? ooh, yes.

so, crafty person, call yangdu asap and recover that blade - the steel is proven!

if i had a shop, i'd be beggging to be next.

bladite
 
That's a bummer. Let us know how the replacement works out.

FWIW, I don't think that mine even needs the pin. My BWB (and my Jange, even moreso) have convinced me that blind tangs can take abuse. I classify the pin with the Mauser 98's third lug -- not necessary, but nice to have just in case.
 
HD, I'm not sure who made it. It didn't have any of the obvious (to me) kami markings; I didn't recognize the kami marks on mine.

Bladite, I thought about that, but wanted Yangdu to inspect my bolo to see what exactly caused the handle failure in case it was something that she and the kamis needed to know about.

Bob
 
Dashain does that...I thinks it's their way of knowing when it's time to rebless everything.
 
Yangdu, I want that blade. I will buy it and rehandle it. e-mail coming.
 
Bob, when was yours made, do you know? Not sure if you are talking about an older model or not. I'll have to try mine, but so far I have been very lucky with how all my HI's hold up.

I see that Yangdu has already stepped in to address the problem. :thumbup:

Thanks,

Norm
 
Norm, mine was likely made recently, as I received mine from Yangdu Friday the 15th.

Bob
 
Couldn't do it guys. Crafty person still at large.
 
aproy1101 said:
Couldn't do it guys. Crafty person still at large.

i wonder who then? mmm

ya know, YANGDU!!! yo yo yo, i'm sure with the base of people here, all those nice blades, with busted handles? if you aren't already, you could easily sell them to crafty persons...

and the blades with simpler issues at least, i can think of a dozen people who have a shop, or the time and hand tools, to do SOMETHING with them, and turn out some nice things with utility left... don't them them malinger! clear those shelves :) :) :)

bladite
 
OK guys. I did get the bolo in question. Its got that soft wood that I got on my Jange, which I consider way too soft for ANY knife handle. It easily marks with a fingernail. I'd say its as soft as pine. I'd suggest that HI stop using this wood. Soft woods are just not appropriate for knife handles. I'd be happy to ship the handle itself out to someone else so they could confirm that is is not a good choice. I believe its sisau.

It just couldn't hold up to the forces and is split real good. When I pounded out the pin, the blade fell from the handle without me even having to pull. I'd say that a pin is very much necessary. Once the integrity of the wood is compromised there is just nothing for the laha to hold on to. At least in this one case, without a pin the blade certainly would have been projected from the handle during chopping.

The blade itself is beautiful, and looks like it got a good workout from BigBob! Good on you BB. I'm going to add a copper guard, and a rosewood handle with a mosaic pin. The shape is something I am fretting over. I don't care for the table leg handle shape. I am open to suggestions on this, especially from the crowd here that knows what a traditional bolo handle looks like.

This picture is of the blade, scabbard (will get reworked), old handle, bolster, and a chunk of rosewood that will become the handle.
 
Awesome links Kronk. Why didn't I think of going to Valiant? Duh...
 
Andy,
There are a lot of different Bolo handles, depending on which area of the Philippines it it made. Here are a few examples.

In the first pic, the two knobbed handles in the middle are from the Visayas. They are roughly octagonal in shape, with the bottom of the grip being narrower than the top. The horse hoof shaped handle on the bottom is probably from Luzon. I find both types very comfortable and secure in use.

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If you're good at carving, you could do something like this Tenegre hilt. :)

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This bifurcated hilt may be from Negros.

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Can't wait to see what you come up with!
Steve
 
Gracias Steve. They seem to cant forward.
 
Cool collection Steve. I can't wait to see what you come up with Andy. I missed this when it first came up. Definately a wood failure. I don't think the maker had much to do with it.
 
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