I am finally getting a chance to be back out in the woods. I will be going on a high adventure weekend with my Venture Crew in about a month, and I am looking for a new folder to carry with me. The only things I have had recommended are the SERE 2000, Spyderco Wegner, and BM Stryker. I'm not terribly crazy about the tanto, so it's looking like the Stryker is out, and I don't know about the Wegner either. I have no experience what so ever with Al Mar knives, so I do not have any clue about the SERE 2000 other than I have heard good reviews. Are there any other blades out there that I should think about, and what is your recommendation for a good hard use folder.
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Actually, I have a pair of Militaries that I'm considering, and a couple fixed blades as well. My biggest problem with the Military is that the 440V blade seems weak for some tasks, but the edge holding still kicks ass. For this trip, I will be with a Boy Scout venture crew, and it is mostly female
, therefore, I was trying to stick with a folder so it didn't look quite as aggressive.
A Fallkniven F1 looks very PC, and costs less than a folder of equal quality. The F1 is also far more durable. Nonetheless, a couple of other folders to consider are the Outdoor Edge Magna, as well as the Cold Steel large Voyager clip point. Both are good, inexpensive knives with a great blade shape for outdoor work. However, the F1 rules
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Emerson cqc-7a(spearpoint).Approx.$80.00-$90.00 at most web dealers.Takes a hell of a beating and keeps going strong.
Piece of cake: BM 720. Strongest lock in the business, flat ground blade for strengh, tank-like anodized aluminum handle (no scales to break), nice, mulitpurpose bowie shape.
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Or try the Benchmade AFCK. Some testing was done on it in both Ohio and Alaska. It kicked butt. Liner lock. Until Busse comes out with their folder, I'd go Benchmade. Good product, good warranty.
As far as the INFI vs modified INFI, the steel in the Combat Grade line is, as Emeril says, kicked up a few notches over the Basic line. Spend the extra $$, and go with the Combat line. It was said the other day that the Basic line outperforms the market, and the Combat Grade outperforms the Basic. You won't regret the buy.
If you want the best, take the test. Busse.
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As far as the INFI vs modified INFI, the steel in the Combat Grade line is, as Emeril says, kicked up a few notches over the Basic line. Spend the extra $$, and go with the Combat line. It was said the other day that the Basic line outperforms the market, and the Combat Grade outperforms the Basic. You won't regret the buy.
If you want the best, take the test. Busse.
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For those of you who frequent practical tactical, you do not have to read this... you already know where i am going.
Did you skip past it, ... No? Last chance.
Alright, Buck/Strider... damn thing's a folding prybar.
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Did you skip past it, ... No? Last chance.
Alright, Buck/Strider... damn thing's a folding prybar.
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There are a lot of folders I'd take into the woods as back-up knives. You have many qualified options, and don't ignore the potential of a good SAK.
But if I were going into the woods with a folder as my primary knife, there'd only be one choice, my large Sebenza from CRK!
But if I were going into the woods with a folder as my primary knife, there'd only be one choice, my large Sebenza from CRK!
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I'll 3rd the Sebenza. Very stout construction, and a very optimized heat treat of BG-42 by Chris. Great choice for hard use if you have the bucks...find one used.
I own anything I mention below (& above), all at least "good" for heavy outdoor use in my estimation, some better. Roughly in my preferred order for what you describe:
Spyderco Starmate: I like it better than Military in every way, although you could nitpick and say the Military handle is a bit more ergonomic and secure. All you give up is 1/4" of blade. Tip ground a bit thicker. Great knife. Light for size.
Wegner: A bit heavy, hump & hole ugly, but a great utility knife for so many things, including dressing animals (e.g. deer). Other than hump, I'd simply prefer flat grind, but a great choice. Ergonomic handle.
Sere 2000: Built with a very heavy and stout handle. Blade thickness isn't commensurate with handle overbuild, so seems lopsided a bit. I'm being picky. Good knife for outdoors, would seem to be a stout choice. VG-10 is good stuff. Tip a bit thicker than others, could have been more so, but good. 3.6" blade, some others here are 3.75" to 4" if you like 'em bigger. Don't like thumbstud design, liners too thick & heavy, handle/blade ratio a bit inefficient. Secure handle with a sort of "double guard" like a dagger. And a near dagger, spear point blade grind.
Benchmade 710: Axis lock is strong. Blade it ground a bit stouter than Military at tip, still not a real super strong tip. Great design, efficient, like Spear Point better than clip, and like the recurve. Good balanced design, moderately light for size and build strength.
AFCK 800: great choice. Good liner lockup. Again, tip a bit less stout than I'd like. Secure handle with index finger guard. Good balanced design, moderately light for size and build strength.
Military: handle/blade length ratio is too high, inefficient (long handle for blade length). Distal taper is nice but too extreme and tip is delicate. 440V cuts great, don't chop with it (or with any folder). Extremely light for the size. Fine tip would work ok as a backup fish fillet knife.
Microtech LCC: Boy did Greg Lightfoot get a lot of design elements right on this. And Microtech is really a first rate outfit in terms of construction quality. Very well built. Strong. A bit heavy. I like more belly in a utility knife, but this looks cool, and should perform fine outdoors. Sharpest factory edge I've felt, rivaled only by Spyderco.
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I own anything I mention below (& above), all at least "good" for heavy outdoor use in my estimation, some better. Roughly in my preferred order for what you describe:
Spyderco Starmate: I like it better than Military in every way, although you could nitpick and say the Military handle is a bit more ergonomic and secure. All you give up is 1/4" of blade. Tip ground a bit thicker. Great knife. Light for size.
Wegner: A bit heavy, hump & hole ugly, but a great utility knife for so many things, including dressing animals (e.g. deer). Other than hump, I'd simply prefer flat grind, but a great choice. Ergonomic handle.
Sere 2000: Built with a very heavy and stout handle. Blade thickness isn't commensurate with handle overbuild, so seems lopsided a bit. I'm being picky. Good knife for outdoors, would seem to be a stout choice. VG-10 is good stuff. Tip a bit thicker than others, could have been more so, but good. 3.6" blade, some others here are 3.75" to 4" if you like 'em bigger. Don't like thumbstud design, liners too thick & heavy, handle/blade ratio a bit inefficient. Secure handle with a sort of "double guard" like a dagger. And a near dagger, spear point blade grind.
Benchmade 710: Axis lock is strong. Blade it ground a bit stouter than Military at tip, still not a real super strong tip. Great design, efficient, like Spear Point better than clip, and like the recurve. Good balanced design, moderately light for size and build strength.
AFCK 800: great choice. Good liner lockup. Again, tip a bit less stout than I'd like. Secure handle with index finger guard. Good balanced design, moderately light for size and build strength.
Military: handle/blade length ratio is too high, inefficient (long handle for blade length). Distal taper is nice but too extreme and tip is delicate. 440V cuts great, don't chop with it (or with any folder). Extremely light for the size. Fine tip would work ok as a backup fish fillet knife.
Microtech LCC: Boy did Greg Lightfoot get a lot of design elements right on this. And Microtech is really a first rate outfit in terms of construction quality. Very well built. Strong. A bit heavy. I like more belly in a utility knife, but this looks cool, and should perform fine outdoors. Sharpest factory edge I've felt, rivaled only by Spyderco.
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Before you go TOO far down the Buck/Strider road, I would recommend heading over to the knife reviews forum, and reading Cliff Stamp's review via his thread over there. If you look around elsewhere, you'll see other threads that he has started regarding the B/S. Folding prybar blade, but not the best prybar when you include the handle, it appears.
I have the 730, and have a 735 on order. Considering ordering one of the last 732's, too. Can you tell I like this knife. I would trust it beyond ANY of the others regarding lock strength. Beyond that, I think the only one that I'd trust nearly as much is the Wegner, because of its design. If it folds, and you're holding it right, you're more likely to only get a pinch on the index, as opposed to getting it cut OFF.
At least, that's the way it appears to me, with the one that I own.
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I have the 730, and have a 735 on order. Considering ordering one of the last 732's, too. Can you tell I like this knife. I would trust it beyond ANY of the others regarding lock strength. Beyond that, I think the only one that I'd trust nearly as much is the Wegner, because of its design. If it folds, and you're holding it right, you're more likely to only get a pinch on the index, as opposed to getting it cut OFF.
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