Has Opinel messed up ???

Discussion in 'Traditional Folders and Fixed Blades' started by jackknife, May 8, 2017.

  1. Fodderwing

    Fodderwing Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 31, 2017
    Yes it seems to be tight when it is in the closed position although, if you pull the blade out firmly enough it tends to remain slightly out (the tip of the blade being exposed slightly). All in all it appears you are right about the issues being addressed by the maker, or else maybe I just lucked out.
     
  2. Sidehill Gouger

    Sidehill Gouger

    Dec 29, 2007
    So I wanted to see what all the fuss was about. I ordered a No. 10 off Amazon Saturday and it arrived today. This one still locks both left and right. No difference from one I ordered a couple of years ago. Failed to prove anything to me. :)
     
  3. davek14

    davek14

    May 30, 2009
    Yeah, at this point there seems to be plenty of old stock around still. Don't know if I want to get an old one to hoard it or look for a new one to see for myself. :rolleyes:
     
  4. ThePeacent

    ThePeacent

    Sep 15, 2013
    I'll keep my old ones, as mutilated and used as they are, just in case this bad change is really happening

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  5. SwiftDream

    SwiftDream

    98
    Nov 22, 2009
    Yours sounds pretty good. Sounds more and more like they are addressing the problems. Enjoy! I do like that bubinga too. The slim #8 is one of my favorite knives. While it is not up to the harder use that a regular #8 can do, you will not find many blades that slice like a slim 8, kind of scary actually but beautiful in action. It only weighs near one ounce but has a good length handle unlike the shorter #6. A bit of beeswax melted into the joint with a hair dryer and you are set.
     
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  6. Woodrow F Call

    Woodrow F Call

    Jan 3, 2013
    I have one with a nub, but the lock ring is tight and doesn't move unless you want it to. I might would suggest taking the lock ring off and bending it a little to get a tighter fit and less movement if that's a problem.

    Edit: I misunderstood the design change. I don't have the divot in the lock ring groove.
     
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  7. Bartleby

    Bartleby

    Oct 28, 2005
    I tried that with the #7's I got at the end of the summer (as well as their replacements), didn't have any luck. The "nub" does not allow the locking ring to turn beyond the angled "ramp" section of the ring on the ones with the re-designed lock rings and ferrules. This gets worse with wear, since one can't just twist a bit farther and take up any slack as one automatically does with the original lock ring. Bad re-design.
     
  8. The Zieg

    The Zieg

    Jan 31, 2002
    Just skimmed this thread, so I'm not sure whether anyone pointed this out. Perhaps one of the reasons for the change in the design is to secure the security ring from flying off should someone open the knife when in the closed and locked position. This led many owners to have to ask for replacement rings. For some of us, this was not a problem as we were carrying versions which only lock open, not closed. But as the locked closed rings took over the old stock, they began to fly off the knives, some getting lost under furniture or in the grass or down drains.

    Since I haven't handled the new version, though, maybe I'm overestimating it. Does the new lock hold on this way? Oh, and isn't this new design reminiscent of the Cold Steel Twistmaster?

    Zieg
     
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  9. Woodrow F Call

    Woodrow F Call

    Jan 3, 2013
    I see. That is a bummer.
     
  10. Bartleby

    Bartleby

    Oct 28, 2005
    Yep, I am pretty bummed. Hopefully they will switch back soon.
     
  11. Bartleby

    Bartleby

    Oct 28, 2005
    The only reason I could come up with as I pointed out above, is the accidental removal of the lockring. It could possibly be resolved by changing the angle of the "ramp" portion (it would need more metal there, not less, so not possible to fix with a little file work).
     
  12. Bartleby

    Bartleby

    Oct 28, 2005
    Golly, your Opinel is morphing into an Okapi Biltong knife!
     
  13. annr

    annr

    Nov 15, 2006
     
  14. 353

    353 Basic Member Basic Member

    Feb 20, 2015
    Sorry to wake up an old thread.

    But as a fresh Opinel fan I was shocked to hear about this. You have a perfect design, time proven since 1955(the lock ring), and then they go ahead and do something like this?

    I saw the vid from page 2 and wanted to share the response he got from the factory:

    "These new rings boast a wide range of benefits: → The rotation of the rotating lock ring is smoother and more reliable → Better rotation guide→Ejection-proof system when closed blocking the blade is now only possible from one side.

    The stop frees the groove to fold the blade intuitively, without needing to look at the knife.→Consistent workmanship qualityOur new rings are entirely produced in our factory in Chambéry, using top of the range machinery developed specifically for Opinel® and manufactured in France.

    This guarantees a higher production rate and better cutting and shaping quality. This new equipment demonstrates our commitment to continuous investment in modernising and improving our industrial facilities in Chambéry, as was also the case with our 1500-m² extension in 2015.

    We are confident that this new ring generation, which has also been patented, will meet the expectations of all our Opinel® enthusiasts and have a career as prestigious as the one created in 1955. These new rings will be available from February 2016 on the following No. 07 models: stainless steel and carbon traditional knives, My first Opinel®, No. 07 Outdoor Junior. It will then be gradually available over the next two years on all knife sizes."


    This is very bad news IMO..
     
  15. knarfeng

    knarfeng senex morosus moderator Staff Member Super Mod Moderator

    Jul 30, 2006
    It is quite acceptable to wake a thread if one has new information about the topic.

    I share your opinion. I don't see that the factory response addresses the issue of the "lock" failing under pressure.
     
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  16. 353

    353 Basic Member Basic Member

    Feb 20, 2015
    Hope they go back on this, and not let "pride" ruin a good traditional design.

    I would also like to add one more thing.

    On my opinel I always lock it in open position by turning the ring the opposite way from the closed knife position. It locks open stronger this way because the lock ring is wider on that side(not having the cutout for locking the knife closed) so it takes more to bend it when you get spine pressure on the blade, if that makes any sense..

    The new design makes it impossible to turn the ring this way.
     
  17. Henry Beige

    Henry Beige Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 1, 2015
    My last Opinel purchase still had the “old” lock ring, even though the new system had appeared on some knives. The old way was good enough for me, and this “improvement” sounds like the answer to a question that nobody has asked. A large part of the appeal was the classic simplicity of the original lock ring. The notch to lock the blade closed wasn’t really necessary either, but it did not change the fundamental character and operation of the lock ring. Although I haven’t seen it, I would guess the new one would diminish the appeal of the knives to me.

    Most users will probably never notice the difference. In any event, it sounds easy enough to defeat with a file or Dremel, which should be a trivial exercise for anyone who is planning to modify the knife anyway.

    If I ever buy an Opinel with the new lock ring, it will be purely to satisfy my curiosity, as I have more than enough Opinels to last me the rest of my life.
     
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  18. 353

    353 Basic Member Basic Member

    Feb 20, 2015
    Maybe this is a move to up the sales, hell I instantly ordered 3 more of my favourite size just to have them with the original(and superior) lock ring!

    Now I have 4 to go with me for the rest of my life!

    :D
     

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