Hatchets and Large knives

personaly I carry a Vietnam Tactical from ATC in a Survival sheath system shoulder rig, AND a Busse Steel Heart or Natural Outlaw...
The shoulder rig from Survival sheath system is just GREAT to carry a hatchet or tomahawk. :D
 
I have both (I leave in Denmark and GB are quiet ship here) they're both as shaving sharp when coming from the factory.
The GB is definitely more suited to wood work, more weight in it and the design og the blade make it go deeper in wood for exemple.
But the VT is very practical too...the square edge is like the tip of a knife, I've cleaned fish with it without any trouble and I've read that Peter Lagana used to use his Vietnam Tomahawk to clean deers! That would be very hard with a GB...
But they're deffinitely both great. Personnaly I'll choose the VT, you'll never break the handle on it and it's very versatile.
 
Holy Cow. Talk about necroposting... I just found this thread and noticed that Joeshred had one of the khukuris I made many years ago. As I remember it took me almost as long to make the sheath as it did to make the knives. The handles were tiger maple, and the by knives were not damascus, but were forged. The large blade wasn't forged as I used A1 or D2 if I remember right. I used to put the date on one side, signature on the other side, and often put the kind of steel used on the knife also. I don't think I used D2 on many Khukuri's though as it isn't as shock absorbent at the A2. A2 was one of my favorite steels to use because of it's toughness, and how hot it had to get before the temper would be effected. With the A2 I used, I would often send the knives to a commercial heat treat lab, and also have them do a sub zero quench.

Before the temper or hardness could be changed, the A2 would have to get really hot...the way I figured it, if someone had to poke around in a fire with the knife for a little while, it wouldn't hurt the temper if the knife got up to around 400F...awfully damn hot.

My signature line changed from time to time. I have used AAB where the three letters were tied together, one that looked like an 8 with a line through it, three dots in a triangle shape, and the initials AAB in a rounded cursive script done with an electric pencil.

When I looked at the khukuri, there were a few things I wanted to change in the design to make them more useful for me. The traditional shape of the handle always dug unto my little finger, so I wanted to have that area flatter. I also liked a full tang better than stick tang for obvious strength reasons. The extra weight of the heavy brass on the handle was to offset the weight of the heavy blade a bit.

Traditional khukuris have a burnisher, and small knife. I figured that a true survival knife should have an actual sharpener, fire starter, AND a couple of smaller knives for little chores like skinning and eating.

Thanks for the nice things said about my knife. I think I only made a half dozen khukuri's or something like that. I made what pleased me in knives, and never took orders because then I would have had people asking "Where the hell is the knife I ordered?" and that would have ruined a perfectly good stress relieving pursuit. Maybe I should try making a few more...they really don't take all that long to make. The sheath's on the other hand....

Anyhow, the stuff about me being hard to find is correct. I'll try and modify the site here so folks can send me emails. rifleace@aol.com is a valid email though..put something in the RE: line about this site, or khukuri's though please so I know it isn't spam...

All the best to everyone,
Alan B.
 
Lots of good advice here, the most valuable being that it'll boil down to personal preference.

My advice would be to buy a variety of tools and figure out what YOUR preference is. If money is an issue, as it is with most of us, then there are some very inexpensive (read: not cheaply made) but very good tools available.

Want a hatchet? Buy a $20 Fiskars hatchet. Like it but want a cadillac? Spend the $100 on a Gransfors Bruks.

Want a tomahawk? Get a $25 Cold Steel Norsehawk or Trail Hawk. If you like it then you can get a custom from some of the great makers out there (check the Axe and Tomahawk forum here).

Want to try a saw? Get a $10 Fiskars sliding saw. Like it? Upgrade to a Bahco/Kershaw or Silk saw.

Want a kukri? Try a $25 Condor Kukri. Happy with it but want something even better. Go over to the Himalayan Imports forum here and drop the cash on a higher performance and genuine article.

Want a big chopper? Buy a $60 Becker/Kabar BK-9, Kabar Large Bowie, or Cutlass Machete. This represents a larger investment, but still considerably cheaper than a $500 Busse. If this ends up being your thing then you can invest into the Busse.

If you want something bigger then you can go with a $25 Condor Golok.

None of these tools are a waste of money and if you decide to upgrade to a more expensive tool, these are still excellent blades to throw in your car, BOB or what have you. You can NEVER have enough blades! :)

Edit: Okay, I didn't read through everything and just saw how old this post is. Still good advice to those who are new to any of the tools mentioned.
 
Wow this is a old post. I really enjoyed what you all had to say .

kage Great post man.

Bryan
 
I think if I was allowed only one knife or tool for an extended period in the bush, it would probably be a khukuri. They don't have to be really expensive, or handmade to be a wonderful tool. After that, I would probably choose a large bowie.

There is tremendous utility in a small hatchet/tomahawk that shouldn't be overlooked. I suppose if I could choose two items it would be a bowie and tomahawk. But the khukuri does 90% of what either of those items will do, so it gets my vote first.

I can't stress enough that a really fine khukuri doesn't have to be expensive. At the last large gun/knife show in the Portland metro area, there was a fellow selling Nepalese made, full tang, 12 or 13 inch blade khukuris for around $60-75. That is pretty hard to beat.
 
Personally for an all in one tool I actually prefer a shortsword. I know it sounds crazy, but it does most of the cutting of a large knife, axe, and machete all in one tool. I have a Busse AK47 and it chops as well as a medium sized axe. Clears brush as well as a machete, and batons any length of wood and does anything I'd need a 12" bowie to do. That plus a folding saw, medium fixed blade, and a multi-tool... there really isn't any chore I can't take on. I wouldn't believe it had I not took it out and tested it myself. Find what works for ya.
 
What do you think is better, a large knife or a hatchet? I've been looking at the Gransfor belt hatchet. Would a large knife be safer?

I think a lot of it depends on how you define hatchet, what size does it become an axe? The really small ones that I've seen I'm not crazy about, but I just got a CS trail boss that's right on the edge of being an axe that would be very useful.
 
I think a lot of it depends on how you define hatchet, what size does it become an axe? The really small ones that I've seen I'm not crazy about, but I just got a CS trail boss that's right on the edge of being an axe that would be very useful.

i agree i have a trail hawk, and even though i am not all that great with it it can do everything!!
 
Funny I found this post because I was recently thinking about the same thing. So I made a small knatchet. A larger knatchet might just be the ticket for you. I would go with a larger fixed blade or kukri type befor a hatchet, for the many uses they have over a hatchet.

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I cut firewood in the woods pretty much every day during the winter months and quite often the rest of the year, so I'll give my input as it applies to me in my particular area. As an "only one" camp tool for gathering campfire wood and shelter material gathering, I believe a hawk far surpasses anything else. A hawk can chop, split (not as well as a hatchet), limb green wood with the blade, limb dry wood with the poll, roll logs, act as a handle for dragging and raising, bust up ice deposits, and other things I'm sure I'm too tired to think of right off. Just my thoughts.
 
Personally for an all in one tool I actually prefer a shortsword. I know it sounds crazy, but it does most of the cutting of a large knife, axe, and machete all in one tool. I have a Busse AK47 and it chops as well as a medium sized axe. Clears brush as well as a machete, and batons any length of wood and does anything I'd need a 12" bowie to do. That plus a folding saw, medium fixed blade, and a multi-tool... there really isn't any chore I can't take on. I wouldn't believe it had I not took it out and tested it myself. Find what works for ya.
you should do a review of the ak47 as a survival tool;) i have one myself but i have been too chicken to bugger mine up:o:p
 
If I was in the Northern Woods of North America, I would carry a axe and a multi-tool (and a small skinning knife if was going to be hunting), if in a tropical environment, I would carry a Kukri and a multi-tool.
 
From my limited experience in the woods I must concur with others who have posted that a saw is the way to go for processing dry wood for fire...I had at one point taken my 11" Fisk OVB for "chopping" but it was miserable work... even had the thin blade bend a bit when I hit a knot on dry pine...It's a saw for me now, although I would recommend a large blade for splitting maybe even something like this...

http://japanwoodworker.com/product.asp?s=JapanWoodworker&pf_id=11.436.5&dept_id=13269
 
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