Have people reacted to your knife with shock or fear?

Big philly 1 said:
Tell them To go F*&% them selves.. Oh by the way, If a cop didnt see it, then you didnt break the law.
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This is a perfect example of the reason many people think that knife owners are jerks.
By the way, profanity isn't allowed in this sub-forum (I "bleeped" the offending word).
 
stabman said:
This is a perfect example of the reason many people think that knife owners are jerks.
By the way, profanity isn't allowed in this sub-forum (I "bleeped" the offending word).
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Could you please point me to that rule? I could not find it in the stickies.

Most boards use a profanity filter to alleviate such problems. I don't believe he was using the term in an uncivl manner towards anyone here.
 
Ankerson said:
That's exactly my point, all it takes is a few idiots to mess it up for the rest of us. ;)

And they will and do make the laws that restrict the 90% because of the 10%, happens all the time.

Why do you think we have the laws the way they are now?

It's not because of the 90%, it's that 10% that are idiots.

That's just the way things work and that won't change because that 10% will always be there to screw things up....
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My point was that bureaucrats with a political agenda will always be able to find a useful idiot. And failing that they'll create one. And that people who believe in knife rights or any other right shouldn't accept that reasoning as sound or justifiable. I guess I took your response to mean, yep, people used it stupidly so we deserve it. Our energy should be directed at rejecting that reasoning. We should of course continue to promote safe and responsible use of the tool but we shouldn't buy the reasoning of the bureaucrats :).
 
salguod said:
I think we are all talking past one another, so let me try again. I’m not saying that you shouldn’t use your knife in public lest you scare others. What I am saying is that a little courtesy goes a long way toward preventing others from being scared. A little courtesy goes a long way toward preserving our right to carry. On the other hand, rude, threatening, and boorish behavior is a huge threat to our right to carry. Yes, we have a right to carry. But other people have a right to roam our public spaces without fear. So how about a “Salute” of some sort?
As a young lieutenant in the USMC, I was taught that it is always permissible and proper to salute a civilian to let them know that you are not a threat. When I was visibly armed, I often gave nervous looking civilians a salute. Obviously, such a salute has nothing to do with rank. It has everything to do with courtesy. The hand salute mimics the motion of a knight raising his visor to identify himself. A sword salute lowers the sword to a non-attacking position. A gun or cannon salute discharges the weapon so people know there is no threat, etc. I am NOT suggesting that you do any of the above salutes in public! But when you encounter someone who seems to be nervous about your knife, you could at least smile and give them a greeting or a gentle word.
So use your knife in public, but try not to be ostentatious about it. Take it out quietly, use it, and then put it away. No ninja flicks, flourishes, etc. And the next time someone gives you a look that says, “Eek! A big scary knife!” smile and reply with “Good Morning” or “Didn’t mean to cause alarm, just cutting my sandwich.” That is so much better than sneering and saying, “Screw you bitch, I have a right to carry a knife in public.”
I would suggest that a little courtesy would go a long way toward preserving our right to carry. On the other hand, if people are afraid to go out in public with their children, they will start drafting legislation.
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+1 Well said.
 
salguod said:
I think we are all talking past one another, so let me try again. I’m not saying that you shouldn’t use your knife in public lest you scare others. What I am saying is that a little courtesy goes a long way toward preventing others from being scared. A little courtesy goes a long way toward preserving our right to carry. On the other hand, rude, threatening, and boorish behavior is a huge threat to our right to carry. Yes, we have a right to carry. But other people have a right to roam our public spaces without fear. So how about a “Salute” of some sort?
As a young lieutenant in the USMC, I was taught that it is always permissible and proper to salute a civilian to let them know that you are not a threat. When I was visibly armed, I often gave nervous looking civilians a salute. Obviously, such a salute has nothing to do with rank. It has everything to do with courtesy. The hand salute mimics the motion of a knight raising his visor to identify himself. A sword salute lowers the sword to a non-attacking position. A gun or cannon salute discharges the weapon so people know there is no threat, etc. I am NOT suggesting that you do any of the above salutes in public! But when you encounter someone who seems to be nervous about your knife, you could at least smile and give them a greeting or a gentle word.
So use your knife in public, but try not to be ostentatious about it. Take it out quietly, use it, and then put it away. No ninja flicks, flourishes, etc. And the next time someone gives you a look that says, “Eek! A big scary knife!” smile and reply with “Good Morning” or “Didn’t mean to cause alarm, just cutting my sandwich.” That is so much better than sneering and saying, “Screw you bitch, I have a right to carry a knife in public.”
I would suggest that a little courtesy would go a long way toward preserving our right to carry. On the other hand, if people are afraid to go out in public with their children, they will start drafting legislation.
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I personally cannot recall a time when I saw someone waving a knife around in public in a threatening manner. The fact that other people are shocked by the sight of a knife would give me the impression that other people are not used to seeing them in public either. So unless you guys live in different areas than me where this stuff is common I don't see where this fear comes from. I really don't think it comes from knife users. It comes from the media, movies, politicians ... Maybe the solution to the problem is not less knife usage in public. But more knife usage so that people can get used to seeing a knife in a real person's hands instead of the image the media puts out there. I really don't think the behavior of knife users has much to do with this fear.
 
I have no qualms about using my blades in public. I have a good relationship with the local cop (we go shooting together often) so when I get 911 called on me (it happens all too often, I need a sign or something to stop such things) she shows up, explains to the sheeple that I'm not out to kill people, I'm just a responsible citizen capable of defending myself and others and that I'm exercising my rights as an American (and in my mind, a human being), why don't they? it's more often Massachusetts/New York/sheeple state tourists (not a knock on those of you who live in those states, just saying) calling me out than anyone else and generally about my open carry of a glock 34 (though my selection of blades gets looks too, when I produce them), the locals know me well and don't care too much.
 
ben317 said:
I personally cannot recall a time when I saw someone waving a knife around in public in a threatening manner.
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I saw a jerk on the bus in Windsor flicking his knife open and closed, open and closed...till I looked at him and he saw that I was reading Knife/Counter Knife Combatives, at which point he put the knife away for the rest of the ride.;)
I was also in a grade 9 French class where a guy liked flipping his balisong open and closed all class, and telling anyone within ear-shot that he liked peeling the skin off of still living mice!!!:mad: Yep, a real class act...and the knife was illegal to own to boot. What a complete jerk.
It really does happen.
And people really DO stab each other in public as well; we've had at least a few in Windsor in the last 2-3 years which I can remember off the top of my head which made the news. There's a couple more I found out about which didn't make the news because the people involved were both up to no good, and beat feet before the cops arrived. You know, go home and stitch it themself, or arrive at the E.R with the old "I was cutting carrots in the kitchen and I fell onto the knife with the inside of my arm."

There's plenty of jerks out there, don't kid yourself.
 
stabman said:
Ask the mods.
It's most definitely a rule, and most people around here know it.
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I find it hard to believe that they have guidelines on posting etiquette and the ability to use a swear filter but failed to post the rule or activate the filter.

Odd, this is not the first thread I've seen cursing in and I don't recall any admonishment.
 
syntaxerrorsix said:
Odd, this is not the first thread I've seen cursing in and I don't recall any admonishment.
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I've seen the admonishment from time to time.
The mods can't be everywhere, and often will only notice something if it's reported, which I generally do not feel the need to do.
I've always thought that a "heads up" was more appropriate.:)
(different sub-forums have slightly different rules, but as far as I recall, swearing in General Knife Discussion is always considered a no go)
 
I live in a fairly laid back, almost redneck area of Northern Ontario. Most people here are either trade workers or related to the business of trades. Nobody here really bats an eye when someone is carrying a knife. Hell, most of the time you can enter a store during the day and see an assortment of people in dirty coveralls, covered in oil and grease and pockets full of tools; I think everyone here is more afraid of getting dirty by brushing up against them than the Buck 110 on their hip.

We do have the occasional stabbing though; most often by some complete dumb*** kids, and it's usually drug related or involves alcohol. Most people here never think of using a weapon, they like to duke it out.

In fact, the only reaction of surprise I really remember is when one of my high school teachers asked to borrow my knife (I was well known for having one as EVERYONE needed something cut) and when I replied I forgot it at home, she was blown away. She looked at me like I had forgotten to put on pants that morning.
 
I think it's more about where you are. If I'm visiting friends in South Carolina and I pull my pocket knife out for whatever reason, there is rarely even a glance. When I'm at home in NY and I pull out my pocket knife for that same reason, I get looks. I was at my wife's cousin's home and I pulled out a Spyderco CF Sage to cut my meat because they didn't have steak knives. Her cousin looked uncomfortable when I opened up the little knife and started using it on my meal. She said it made her nervous to know I had a knife in my pocket. I asked her why and she didn't have a reason, just that it made her nervous. I guess she has something against sharp knives because, like I said, she had no steak knives in the house and a ridiculously dull chef's knife in the kitchen.
 
syntaxerrorsix said:
I find it hard to believe that they have guidelines on posting etiquette and the ability to use a swear filter but failed to post the rule or activate the filter.

Odd, this is not the first thread I've seen cursing in and I don't recall any admonishment.
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Ankerson said:
Those are KITCHEN knives, that is a fact that almost all knife attacks are in the home and in Prison... Not by people carrying their 3.5" or so folders.
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I sometimes wonder how much of that is actually true.
Daniel Boon said:
Stabbing caught on tape

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I ask this because in my mind, it would make perfect sense to have a folding knife as a concealed weapon. Not as a defensive weapon, because I would want a gun. But if one were to plan on stabbing someone out of the blue without drawing attention with a gunshot, I would think a folder would be the #1 choice. I bring that up because thugs don't give a damn how strong their knives are, just that it's sharp and pointy. So the cheapest folder with a PoS steel for $10 would do just fine and wouldn't mean they'd have to pass up on drug or booze money.

And watching that video, I feel perplexed on how someone would walk around with a paring knife in their pocket and not cut themselves or have the cardboard sheath still stuck on the blade when they try to pull it out.
 
Noctis3880 said:
I sometimes wonder how much of that is actually true.

I ask this because in my mind, it would make perfect sense to have a folding knife as a concealed weapon. Not as a defensive weapon, because I would want a gun. But if one were to plan on stabbing someone out of the blue without drawing attention with a gunshot, I would think a folder would be the #1 choice. I bring that up because thugs don't give a damn how strong their knives are, just that it's sharp and pointy. So the cheapest folder with a PoS steel for $10 would do just fine and wouldn't mean they'd have to pass up on drug or booze money.

And watching that video, I feel perplexed on how someone would walk around with a paring knife in their pocket and not cut themselves or have the cardboard sheath still stuck on the blade when they try to pull it out.
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No it is a fact, been documented many times over the years.
 
Ankerson said:
No it is a fact, been documented many times over the years.
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Yes, it really is a fact.
Actually, in one of the stabbings here in Windsor, A guy got punched by some jock in a Wendy's parking lot.
The guy ran to his buddy's house (or girlfriend's, I forget which), grabbed a kitchen knife, ran back to the Wendy's, and stabbed the jock right through the aorta as he was in the drive-thru. Just came up and stabbed him through the open window.

There was another here where a guy was carrying a kitchen knife in a cardboard sheath for defense (he was walking with crutches). When he and his friends were attacked, he stabbed one of the attackers.
Got off on self-defense, but got a weapons charge.
 
stabman said:
This is a perfect example of the reason many people think that knife owners are jerks.
By the way, profanity isn't allowed in this sub-forum (I "bleeped" the offending word).
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+1 on that, that's exactly the attitude that the antis love to hear, gives them all the ammo they need and a perfect example to use.
 
I carry a sleek Kershaw folder, and I always take it out covertly. Where I work I carry a crappy Winchester folder..lol and everyone knows I carry it and its for work so its never been a problem.

I have only had to defend my self with a knife twice in my life.
One of the two times it was the attackers knife that I used after causing him to drop it.
The other time the person never knew I had a knife until they suddenly didn't want to try to harm me anymore.
Never gotten in trouble for my EDC because I pay close attention to the laws of the area I live in, and where I am traveling.
Perfect example what I can carry concealed in VA or MD may not be the same as in DC where I might end up, so I carry to the DC rule to prevent ever having a local problem.

Brandishers are typically what give gun and knife people bad names. The "Look at me I have a weapon" or "Get back I have a weapon" people are a train wreck.
 
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