Having a hard time deciding on my next EDC, please help...

Another knife that just caught my eye is the James Brand "The Folsom" knife. If you haven't seen it, check it out. I am really digging it...

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I am leaning towards the Bugout as well. A mini grip is what I use due to the shorter blade length but I prefer the larger size of the Bugout in my hands

Pilar is nice as well but may be too small. If you decide on the Pilar bladehq has the version with D2 steel. I was contemplating that but felt it too small

I like the look of the kershaw link 1776 but then again it’s like a ZT which you said you don’t prefer. The link is a 420hc blade. I was contemplating getting one from kershawguy for a beater knife.

Let us know what you decide.
 
gillmanjr said:
You're conflating two different things in your first sentence here. "Sheepsfoot" decribes a blade shape. "Full Flat Grind" is an edge grind. These are two different things. Traditionally sheepsfoot blades are better for slicing and they also allow you to slice without fear of accidental stabbing because they don't really have a tip. They were created specifically for whittling but they are good slicers.

I understand what you are saying. You are saying that the blade stock is too thick on the Pilar for it to be a good slicer and I would tend to agree. I own a Ka-Bar BK2 which has pretty much the thickest blade you will ever see on a knife and as a result it is NOT a good slicer, at all. They are probably intended for more rigorous tasks like chopping and whittling.
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right,but it's more than that. Thickness behind the edge matters even more. As well as the geometry behind that and how gradually it moves up based on the thickness of the blade.
 
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Im_your_huckleberry said:
Bugout from that list. You could also look into Civivi knives, everyone that I've handled has been worth far more than the asking price.
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This has been my experience with the Civivi knives as well. I've had a few apart for inspection now. The fit and finish is top notch. They easily compete with knives that cost twice as much, or more. The Naja has slowly taken over as my "casual" EDC. It's a wonderful slicer and carries quite well for a larger knife. I sometimes carry the Coarser when I'm dressed up a little more and it draws a lot of compliments for a knife that only costs $68.

Benchmade makes a quality product but not really mind-blowing for the price. Recent revelations about their political activity prevents me from recommending them but we can't discuss the particulars here. (Political discussion is not allowed in this section of the forum.)
 
Mo2 said:
right,but it's more than that. Thickness behind the edge matters even more. As well as the geometry behind that and how gradually it moves up based on the thickness of the blade.
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You are referring to the edge grind. The Pilar has a high sabre grind, I did some research on it. I would bet its probably a better slicer than you think. Anyway I'm going to find out because I just pulled the trigger on one. I actually went with the BHQ exclusive version with the D2 steel and carbon fiber scales. Should have it in a couple days. EDIT: I just watched a review video on youtube about the BHQ version of this knife and, according to the reviewer, it is actually thinner behind the edge than the original so the BHQ version is apparently a better slicer for that reason on top of it being better steel.

About the Civivi knives: I wouldn't buy a Chinese brand unless I saw one that I absolutely love and must have. Given how many knives are on my list to own right now, that will probably never happen.
 
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gillmanjr said:
You are referring to the edge grind. The Pilar has a high sabre grind, I did some research on it. I would bet its probably a better slicer than you think. Anyway I'm going to find out because I just pulled the trigger on one. I actually went with the BHQ exclusive version with the D2 steel and carbon fiber scales. Should have it in a couple days.

About the Civivi knives: I wouldn't buy a Chinese brand unless I saw one that I absolutely love and must have. Given how many knives are on my list to own right now, that will probably never happen.
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There's the edge bevel: the angle at which the edge is actually sharpened, and the primary bevel: the angle at which the blade itself is ground. At some point the primary bevel terminates into the edge bevel. The thickness at that point, the thickness behind the edge, is what he's referring to. It plays a very large part in determining how well a knife slices.

Something like an Opinel #8, which is extremely thin behind the edge, sharpened at a fairly steep angle like 25dps will still slice through thick material better than a Medford Praetorian sharpened at a much shallower 15dps. This is because the Medford is much thicker behind the edge. Because the edge is more acute it may initiate the cut with greater ease, but will then have to displace far more material as you push into the cut creating more and more resistance or friction.

Geometry is king when it comes to performance. Thickness behind the edge seems largely overlooked by manufacturers, but is one if the more important factors in slicing performance. That's not to say there's no reason to buy a thicker blade though; it won't slice at all if it snaps in half during use.
 
Cold Steel American Lawman, or Recon 1 if you want something bigger.
 
Jstn beat me to the reply.
I ve read the whole thread thinking that the knife that compares to your PM2 is the Cold Steel American Lawman. Compact but very sturdy, and slices well. Good ergonomics and good f and f.
This knife is so good, it changed my mind about black coated blades. The dlc finish on the Lawman blade is excellent. And strangely enough, the black blade draws less attention from bystanders than a shiny satin blade.
At 95.00 it s a bargain.
Of the three knives in your current edc rotation that I ve carried and used, only one compares to the AL.
 
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Does anyone own the Kizer Domin or Domin mini? This is another knife that has caught my eye in the last few days that I am really into. I've added it to my list and this one very well may be the next purchase I make (probably the mini in blue)...

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Bugout
I got it to understand all the hype around this knife and I have been convinced
It has many flaws but the slim profile, light weight and deep pocket clip make it a very interesting EDC
I am not a fan of the axis lock - I think I am neutral - but really it works fine for this kind of light blade
 
marco g mendoza said:
I am leaning towards the Bugout as well. A mini grip is what I use due to the shorter blade length but I prefer the larger size of the Bugout in my hands

Pilar is nice as well but may be too small. If you decide on the Pilar bladehq has the version with D2 steel. I was contemplating that but felt it too small

I like the look of the kershaw link 1776 but then again it’s like a ZT which you said you don’t prefer. The link is a 420hc blade. I was contemplating getting one from kershawguy for a beater knife.

Let us know what you decide.
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I really like the link as well as the dividend,the only thimg about the link is its thick in pocket
 
Earl1 said:
I really like the link as well as the dividend,the only thimg about the link is its thick in pocket
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I don't like the Link. I really can't put my finger on why. It just doesn't feel right in my hand.

The Dividend is another story. It's a nice little knife. It feels good and carries quite well. My two complaints were the steel and the clip. Now you can get it in S35VN or M390 for under a hundred bucks. I called Kershaw about the clip and they sent me a deep-carry loop-over free of charge. Takes care of that! :D
 
I don't know if you guys missed it from my previous post but I did end up pulling the trigger on a Pilar and specifically on the BHQ version with D2 steel and carbon fiber (standard size). It is due to arrive at my house tomorrow, can't wait to check it out and put a nice shiny edge on it.

I think I'm also going to pull the trigger on that Kizer Domin in the next couple of weeks. I really like it and its only 50 bucks.
 
gillmanjr said:
I don't know if you guys missed it from my previous post but I did end up pulling the trigger on a Pilar and specifically on the BHQ version with D2 steel and carbon fiber (standard size). It is due to arrive at my house tomorrow, can't wait to check it out and put a nice shiny edge on it.

I think I'm also going to pull the trigger on that Kizer Domin in the next couple of weeks. I really like it and its only 50 bucks.
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The Domin is a nice knife. I really like VG-10 as an all-round EDC knife steel. There is a Mini Domin now but it uses N690. I have no experience with that steel.

I guess the next question is what you'll get after that. :cool:
 
Cosmodragoon said:
The Domin is a nice knife. I really like VG-10 as an all-round EDC knife steel. There is a Mini Domin now but it uses N690. I have no experience with that steel.

I guess the next question is what you'll get after that. :cool:
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My Bradford Guardian3 is N690. Its not my favorite steel, thats for sure. But its alright I guess.
 
gillmanjr said:
About the Civivi knives: I wouldn't buy a Chinese brand unless I saw one that I absolutely love and must have. Given how many knives are on my list to own right now, that will probably never happen.
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Not sure I get the comment about the Civivi. If they don't appeal, I totally get it. But to say you wouldn't buy because of Chinese origin, directly after stating you ordered a Pilar, and just prior to a Kizer post? You do know all those knives are made in China, right?
 
bflying said:
Not sure I get the comment about the Civivi. If they don't appeal, I totally get it. But to say you wouldn't buy because of Chinese origin, directly after stating you ordered a Pilar, and just prior to a Kizer post? You do know all those knives are made in China, right?
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...and the Brand Folsom too.

Anyway, I just picked up a Civivi Shard and want to add my voice to all the ones singing their praises. The Pilar that I had was a...disappointment.
 
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