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HDMC: Heavy Duty Medium Chopper!

Discussion in 'Carothers Performance Knives' started by Casinostocks, Jun 17, 2019.

  1. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Platinum Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    First off, there's nothing "medium" about this chopper. To assign it as a medium, is a misnomer. This is seriously a HEAVY DUTY friggin BEAST of a chopper, period, full stop!

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    ETA: many thanks and sincere gratitude to Nathan, Jo and the CPK-Crew, i.e, Mark & Bo :)
     
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  2. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Platinum Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    Once almost everyone who skipped the preorder gets another chance to get their own during the upcoming Fridays sales, Unc. Matty is most def gonna go for a twin of this pattern in Terotuf, in the next few upcoming sale cycles.

    I'm just hoping that Nathan will offer a few more during the preorders. This fracking thing is a master skull crusher which certainly deserved a thread of its own :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
     
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  3. 91bravo

    91bravo Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 29, 2008
    I want one just like it, edgecut antique and all!
     
  4. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Platinum Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    If the BC is one bada** NFL type of linebacker/ edge rusher, this HDMC is like a badder-a** stocky, bruising, bawling-ball and smash-mouth type of a fullback!
     
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  5. TommyGun56

    TommyGun56 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 29, 2014
     
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  6. Briandt3

    Briandt3 Gold Member Gold Member

    289
    Dec 29, 2018
    I have to be careful not to cut myself looking at those pictures !
    Really like the fuller and the scales look amazing :)
    I will definitely be trying for this offering on Friday, hopefully the sales will continue for a few weeks in case my internet doesn't cooperate :rolleyes:

    Thanks for sharing the pics and congratz on a great pickup :thumbsup:
     
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  7. 91bravo

    91bravo Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 29, 2008
    I want to see how the shorter, wider and thicker blade of the HDMC compare to my BC and MC in real world use. I've got some real-world chopping hours behind those 2 blades and am curious to how different the HDMC feels.
     
  8. Standard78

    Standard78 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 25, 2015
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  9. JustinFournier

    JustinFournier Gold Member Gold Member

    May 7, 2012
    I look forward to your results.
     
  10. Nathan the Machinist

    Nathan the Machinist KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 13, 2007
    The BC is not only larger and heavier it is also thinner behind the edge. If the HDMC is inspired by Jerry, the Behemoth is inspired by Dan.
     
  11. 91bravo

    91bravo Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 29, 2008
    I still think CPK is better overall in terms of ease of steel maintenance and super ooey gooey ergonomic handles. I can chop all day with a CPK and not get any hotspots.
     
  12. Nathan the Machinist

    Nathan the Machinist KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 13, 2007


    ^ standard MC. The HDMC is really pretty stout.
     
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  13. bluemax_1

    bluemax_1 Gold Member Gold Member

    591
    Jan 17, 2014
    Mine's on the way! Sweet! Can't wait to check it out and test it against the MC and BC.

    The winner between the MC and HDMC is going to be my Large Camp Knife for the foreseeable future.
     
  14. Nathan the Machinist

    Nathan the Machinist KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 13, 2007
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    ^ zoomable

    The way the nail smears off on the edge makes it look like there's damage in the video where there isn't actually any. it discolors the metal which your eyes read as deformation that isn't actually there.

    I believe this is about as good as it gets.
     
  15. betzner

    betzner CenCal Coast Platinum Member

    Jan 23, 2007
    Oh, OH, another nail cutter, surely you don't wanna keep that thing, do you?
     
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  16. XtianAus

    XtianAus Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 3, 2016
    Very, very impressive Nathan.
    I don't have much experience with INFI but surely you're on par or even better now with your HT and steel.
    I actually damaged infi easier than I expected when I did test it
    But based on your video where you did a head to head between 3V and infi, I am guessing I had a bit of a lemon.
     
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  17. bluemax_1

    bluemax_1 Gold Member Gold Member

    591
    Jan 17, 2014
    Wait, Nate did a video comparison of D3V and Infi?

    I saw another individual's comparo between those 2 a while back, and the verdict was that they're both extremely tough and for most intents and purposes, equally indestructible, but D3V has better edge retention/stability, and will continue to hold a cutting edge longer.
     
  18. XtianAus

    XtianAus Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 3, 2016
    Yep! I will link it once I get home from Uni :)
     
  19. XtianAus

    XtianAus Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 3, 2016
     
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  20. Nathan the Machinist

    Nathan the Machinist KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 13, 2007
    ^ be aware that in that video those knives are run thinner than standard in order for that edge damage to be visible. Normal geometry won't show that much damage in that kind of cut.




    Our gross edge stability (edge durability) is on par with Infi. Standard heat treat 3V is not. That was a big deal when we got there.

    I've probably tested our 3V against other steels, including Infi, more than most folks and I can say that Delta 3V and Infi are both extremely durable steels with good edge retention in real use and high edge durability that pairs well with a blade type that you might be whacking into stuff. I can't say one steel is better than the other. Delta 3V and Infi are side by side in that edge durability. Delta 3V is very tough (high resistance to fracture) but Infi is even tougher. Things like S7 are tougher still, but lack edge retention. Delta 3V has better edge retention than Infi due to equivalent edge stability and higher abrasive wear resistance. Over all they're both very durable and hold an edge well in rough use. There are applications where I wish I could offer Infi as an option in some of our heavy duty "unbreakable" knives such as the HDFK and the HDMC for folks wanting the ultimate in gross toughness but most of our knives that are EDC and bushcraft/camp/field use are well served with something with higher edge retention. I asked Jerry if he'd be willing to provide me with some Infi for special projects but he wasn't real keen on the idea. *shrug*
     
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