Heavy use folder?

You need to at least check out the Zero Tolerance 200. It's a beast with a very thick liner-lock, it's huge. 154CM blade, 3-D G-10 handles, and multi-position clip. It's sort of Strider-looking, although they do offer a Strider collaboration for a bit more $$$.

Daniel
 
The ZT0200 was the knife that came to mind as I read youe post. It will require about 30 to 35 dollars more, but worth way more thaj that. Have yet to read a bad post about this knife, but have read plenty bad about the Buck collab. Definately owe it to yourself to research this one.
 
Confederate said:
You're really not telling us what you want. What blade length, what kind of cutting jobs you'll be doing, etc.?

Spyderco's Native, Kershaw's Random Leek, Cold Steel's Recon 1, Voyager (4-, 5-, or 6-inch blades)--they're all sorts of good knives with varying qualities.
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blade length can be 3-4 inches

handle can be 4-5 inches

steel can be almost anything except Austrian and Chinese crap (needs to be 420hc or ats-34 or s30v 154 cm ect...)

i prefer a black oxide blade finish and black handles

i need it to be able to pry, and punch holes in metal if needed and still retain a decent cutting ability

and a solid lock

and aggressive grip so if knife is wet or covered in mud it still diggs into your hands

(i also checked out the zt0200 and all the zero tolerance line but there blades are a bit to wide for my taste)
 
army4ever said:
blade length can be 3-4 inches

handle can be 4-5 inches

steel can be almsot anything except Austrian and Chinese crap (needs to be 420hc or ats-34 or s30v 154 cm ect...)

i prefere a black oxide blade finish and black handles

i need it to be able to pry, and punch holes in metal if needed and still retain a decent cutting ability

and a solid lock

(i also checked out the zt0200 and all the zero tolerance line but there blades are a bit to wide for my taste)
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I suggested the Benchmade 710D2 and I'll stay with that suggestion.

It's a classic; and for good reason. D2 steel, Axis lock, double stainless liners with G10 handle scales, super quality construction, USA made...
 
I have a Buck 882 , it's similar to the 889. I liked the ergonomics of the Buck so much I got a Stonewashed Strider SnG for Christmas.

The liner lock on the Buck is adequate, but because it is on the thin side, it is the weakest link. The blade choil and handle shape allows for several grip options. Choking up on the blade when cutting allows much of the stress to be put in front of the pivot point.

The 889 in 420HC can be bought for around $50, the 882 that I have in ATS 34 steel is usually around $100.

If you like the style get the Buck while you still can.

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Benchmade Griptilian...... mini or full size..... you choose.

Using any folder for heavy duty prying is a gamble ..... all bets are off, maybe you'll break it, maybe you won't........ :)
 
Im sticking to the gripitllian. Best lock besides the lock back if your gonna do prying or stabbing in an emergency. Very grippy, get it....
 
Spyderco Manix + a multitool for prying and punching holes in metal. The 889 has great ergos but the lock is not suitable for hard use work at all IMO.
 
I did some terrible things to a Benchmade 730 Ares in 154CM steel, and the blade didnt break nor did the lock loosen. The edge chipped, but that may have been more user carelessness, and it had been thinned quite a bit to about 15 degrees per side. The closes I see to that design in the lineup now is the 3.4" blade H&K knives. I personally prefer the all G-10 handle version, but thats just me. The last time I checked, they were going for about $125 plus shipping.
 
ive been doing some thinking and i think im stating decide against the sbmf because if the knife needs to be abused and pried on or chopping things or punching holes through metal im going to need a more stable locking system liek the axis lock of the benchmade 1425 h&k. waht do you guys think of it here
 
It appears to be fine but it seems to be out of your price range. Why not go with something cheap that is easily replaced? If you are going to be stabbing through metal, prying or chopping things with any folder you wont be doing it very long. Get an SAK and a pry bar.
 
army4ever said:
ive been doing some thinking and i think im stating decide against the sbmf because if the knife needs to be abused and pried on or chopping things or punching holes through metal im going to need a more stable locking system liek the axis lock of the benchmade 1425 h&k. waht do you guys think of it here
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There is a smaller version of that H&K available for about $100, the 14210. It's still a 3" blade, 154CM steel, and AXIS lock. They are great knives, very tough. I've had 3 of them, still have two, and the other one is still going strong. I gave it to a buddy a few months ago.

But they are folding knives... they are made to cut... just to cut...
 
army4ever said:
ive been doing some thinking and i think im stating decide against the sbmf because if the knife needs to be abused and pried on or chopping things or punching holes through metal im going to need a more stable locking system liek the axis lock of the benchmade 1425 h&k. waht do you guys think of it here
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Yes that's an excellent choice and agree, the axis lock is stronger than the Buck's liner lock. I use the Buck for simple cutting, nothing I would consider tough.

If you search the web you might be able to find the Snody HK for a little more than $100.

As others have said , the 710 is a good choice too...

If you don't want to spend that much, check out the larger Kershaw framelock knives. Even the inexpensive Kershaw Storm II is a strong knife.
 
I recommend a good multi-tool.

Try the Leatherman Charge or the Victorinox SwissTool.
 
Redguy said:
Austrian crap? Are you disappointed in N690 for some reason?
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well i guess i cant call it crap because i have never had any and therefore its never failed me but still i prefer my steel American made

and well that settles it just bought myself a benchmade h&K 14200 cant wait:D will post pics upon arrival in new thread
 
My son gave me a CS AK47 for Christmas and I must say it's pretty stout. I'd have never bought it for myself but now it's in my hands I'd say it's got the heavy utility feel to it.
 
army4ever said:
blade length can be 3-4 inches

handle can be 4-5 inches

steel can be almost anything except Austrian and Chinese crap (needs to be 420hc or ats-34 or s30v 154 cm ect...)

i prefer a black oxide blade finish and black handles

i need it to be able to pry, and punch holes in metal if needed and still retain a decent cutting ability

and a solid lock

and aggressive grip so if knife is wet or covered in mud it still diggs into your hands

(i also checked out the zt0200 and all the zero tolerance line but there blades are a bit to wide for my taste)
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If you are going to be using it to pry and cut metal, you might as well buy something cheap so that you can easily replace it. Blades with good edge retension do not typically react well to prying and cutting metal.

A workable alternative might be to carry a cold chisel along with your knife.
 
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