hello all. need help with recommendations for a folder

greendude said:
price range can go up to 170$-180$.

I want it for general use outdoors - cooking, fishing, fish scaling & gutting. hunting too. what kind of a lock - didn't think about that actually. what I have now is a 3.3" blade with a Liner Lock. but I'm not really set on any one type of lock.


stabman - that knife looks good, but from the picture I couldn't quite make what model is hollowpoint and what's regular grind. any idea?

thanks again
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Not to throw you off completely....but I wonder if for "...cooking, fishing, fish scaling & gutting.." you really need a big, tough knife like some giant Cold Steel knife. To me, it sounds like you are looking for a slicer. Something with a little thinner blade.

I'll throw in a suggestion from deep left field...Queen Mountainman Lockback. Largish, thinner blade, locks, flat grind, very outdoorsy.

And to throw you even farther off....gutting with a folder demands a folder that is easy to clean (especially if you are going to cook with it....fish guts!). Have you considered a fixed blade?
 
Cold steel large or xl voyager with a clip blade would be a good choice the tri-ad lock is about as strong a lock as you will find with any maker.
 
marcinek said:
Not to throw you off completely....but I wonder if for "...cooking, fishing, fish scaling & gutting.." you really need a big, tough knife like some giant Cold Steel knife. To me, it sounds like you are looking for a slicer. Something with a little thinner blade.

I'll throw in a suggestion from deep left field...Queen Mountainman Lockback. Largish, thinner blade, locks, flat grind, very outdoorsy.

And to throw you even farther off....gutting with a folder demands a folder that is easy to clean (especially if you are going to cook with it....fish guts!). Have you considered a fixed blade?
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thing is, I don't know about size. when I'm talking 4-5" blades, a fixed blade knife can get quite large. maybe for a long trip, but for camping for a couple of days, or going fishing for a few hours, it seems too much.

I kind of getting the feeling that the Voyager is mor of a fighting knife then an "outdoors kitchen utility knife" (for lack of better words).
that's why the Hold Out looks interesting. the Mountainman simply is too small. (I'm assuming there is only one knife with that name)
 
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Grayman Satu for all round brut force cutting, Opinel #12 if you want to do fine work like filleting, but these are two extremes obviously. A good cheap knife I really like is the Buck 110 hunter
 
greendude said:
I kind of getting the feeling that the Voyager is mor of a fighting knife then an "outdoors kitchen utility knife" (for lack of better words).
that's why the Hold Out looks interesting. the Mountainman simply is too small. (I'm assuming there is only one knife with that name)
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The Cold Steel Hold Out? The hollow ground stabby thing? That really doesn't scream "outdoors kitchen utility knife" to me...but to each his own, you know? :thumbup:
 
marcinek said:
The Cold Steel Hold Out? The hollow ground stabby thing? That really doesn't scream "outdoors kitchen utility knife" to me...but to each his own, you know? :thumbup:
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didn't look hollow ground, but you'r right...
so, baring in mind that the blade shoud be 4.5" or more, any ideas?
 
greendude said:
didn't look hollow ground, but you'r right...
so, baring in mind that the blade shoud be 4.5" or more, any ideas?
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Dude, a 4.5" blade on a folder is HUGE. If you're really wanting a knife that big, you're much better off with a fixed blade.
 
Spyderco military fits your criteria, lots of options if you look around. Try the posting right here first you can get a great deal!
 
I'll repeat once again what other people have said in this thread.

a 4,5" bladed folding knife is MASSIVELY BIG. Thing about a folder with a blade that size is that the handle would be the minimum of half an inch bigger.

For the uses that you're thinking of you really ARE better off with a fixed blade. Don't go thinking that all fixed blades are HUGE things that feel like a ton. There are plenty of fixed blades that you'll hardly feel on the belt because they have a good sheath. Comfort of carry with a fixed blade has nothing to do with the knife itself but everything with the sheath.

In fact. In the pricerange you've stated it'd be easy to find a maker that can make exactly what you'd like it to be. In a fixed blade you'll have everything you need:

- Easy to clean
- The right size
- Most likely lighter than a folder of similar size
- Comfortable
- no risk of the knife closing on your fingers
- higher quality knives in the same pricerange than wen you'd be getting a folder.

I'd recommend having a quick browse through this forum: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php/754-For-Sale-Fixed-Blades

you'll even be supporting one of our resident makers!
 
If food prep is your main concern look at the A.G. Russell Hocho. Good steel, very affordable and designed to be a folding chef's knife. It's not designed to be absurdly tough by any means, but it should perform very well if you don't abuse it. Even better, you can team it up with a BK-11 or BK-14, get a great folder for food prep and a tough little fixed blade and only be carrying about 8oz of knife. Combined cost should be right around $100.
 
greendude said:
didn't look hollow ground, but you'r right...
so, baring in mind that the blade shoud be 4.5" or more, any ideas?
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Lemme see if I got this so we are on the same page, so I don't continue to lead you in a direction you aren't interested in going.

The deal breaker on the Cold Steel Hold Out as a "outdoors kitchen utility knife" is that it is hollow ground, correct?
 
LX_Emergency made great points! Well put, LX! :thumbup:

Here's something to consider....the CS Hold Out 2 (a folding Skean Dhu/dagger) with a 4 inch blade weighs in at 4.2 ounces.

A Vic/Forschner 5 inch chef's knife (which is going to be a much better "outdoors kitchen utility knife" than a dagger) weighs in at 4 ounces.
 
So, if I can understand this right, you're looking for a large tough folder with no hollow grind, that you will be using for food prep. Is this correct?

If thats true, then you really should be looking at one of the larger opinels if you want a folding knife. They're very cheap, and excel at food prep activities.

The problem is that you're wanting a 4.5in or LARGER folding knife, and there simply aren't very many of them out there.

And like its been mentioned, Fixed blades can very often weigh less than a folding knife of the same blade size, and have the added benefit of being stronger and easier to clean. So you might want to take a look at some of them.

Good luck :)
 
well, first I'd like to answer marcinek - the holdup with the Hold-Out is that it's a bugger to sharpen a hollow-grind on a whetston without changing blade geometry, that hollow grind is less suited for food-prep (hamaguriba being the best).

I'm seeing what you'r saying, and I think that I'll get a 5-6" kitchen knife (maybe a petty), a large heavy knife for stuff like splitting wood\hunting, and a small folder to keep in my pocket for when I need a knife "on the go".

that being said - I'm now looking for a general-use folder, about 3.5" to 4" of cutting edge (mine is 82mm and feels on the short side) and not a hollow point.
 
Check out a Becker 16 or 17. They aren't "hollow point", they are around 4.5 inches. And you can beat the crap out of them all day and they're good slicers.

Edit: For your general use folder, Spyderco Paramilitary 2 or Military. For a chopper look at the BK2.
 
Take it from the guy who asks this question several times, Kershaw JYD 2.2 if you dont mind the ugly clip, Spyderco manix 2 is a good 1 with a axis style lock. Benchmade griptilian is a winner in my book, Spyderco Paramilitary 2 i personally dont like it but everyone else loves it. Spyderco Endura is a forum favorite. Im personally carrying a sog aegis right now witch is a great blade in that size range.
 
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