Hellz_Angel- Jeff MacLean = Caveat Emptor. Watch it.

Good to see that things worked out.

Thanks Keith. It is indeed unbelievable.

One of two worked out. We are half way home. I hope something pans out for our friend Southern Cross. He is still without an MOD Triton. I hope Jeff can figure out a way to strike a balance with Southern X.

So this is still not too cool. :mad:
 
He still has not even bothered to reach out to me. I'm glad it worked out for you. Just out of curiosity...did he ever mention my "deal"?
 
Here is the email chain with every contact we had minus the original where he told me he had a blade to trade and to move over to email.

PART I

ME to uncleandbrandyn
Jul 25
Greetings,

I just wanted to get some more info on the minis. Are auto, are they tanto or clip point, do they both have the grip inlay, do they have the glassbreaker. There are a bunch of mini styles and was curious which ones you had.

Thanks,

doc mac to me
show details Jul 26
sorry ,, both have glassbreaker and grip inlays one is tanto and the
other is straight blade. clip point.. jeff


doc mac to me
Jul 26
both autos as well


ME to doc
Jul 26
Awesome! Thanks I appreciate the info. I definitely want to trade for that tanto mini! I'd also like to buy the other from you if you are interested. Please let me know how much you are looking to get for it if you are interested.

As far as the trade goes how do you want to handle it. Do you want to send at the sametime and send tracking numbers? If you're cool with that or want to do something else let me know. I am willing to do whatever you need.

Thanks,

ME


doc mac to me
Jul 26
hi , just looking to trade 1 for now. ill definitely trade you the
tanto. im in canada though hope thats not a problem ? i can ship
whenever you can ... i just put gift and tool set on the mail forum
valued at 10$. regular mail in a small envelope package . just let me
know. jeff


ME to doc
Jul 26
Jeff,

Sounds like a plan. My Triton OTF for your Mini Tanto Auto. As soon as you let me know what your address is I will pack it up nice and secure and send it off. I'm not sure is USPS Priority will work to Canada but I will do my best at getting the best service possible to ship it to you.

Here is my address:

EDITED OUT

Please let me know if you have any questions.

ME


ME to doc
Jul 26
Jeff,

Almost forgot...can you please do me a quick favor. If possible can you send me a tiny PayPal payment...I don't think the amount matters...make it a few cents. That makes it very easy for me to ship the item. I can pull up the transaction and handle the shipping right through PayPal. You can also track the package through that transaction. I will do the same for you if you'd like. If not no biggie...it just makes it very easy to ship items. It will also provide me the extra stuff I need to fill out to ship to Canada.

Thanks,

ME


doc mac to me
show details Jul 27
sorry do not have a paypal account. just ship regular mail and put
gift and tool valued at 10$ ill ship today as well ... EDITED OUT... thanks jeff


doc mac to me
Jul 28
Socom is shipped post office said allow 7 to 10 business days.

enjoy


ME to doc
Jul 28
Ditto that for me. Your knife is in the mail and on its way. I'm not sure how long it will take but I imagine it will be the same amount of time your post office gave. Let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks

ME


ME to doc
Aug 11
Jeff,

I just wanted to check in and see if you had received the Triton. I have not received the mini yet. I have no idea how long shipping takes from Canada though. I figured I'd check in to see if you had received mine yet though. Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks,

ME


doc mac to me
Aug 11
Hi ME,

Nothing yet. Im not sure how long it should take either. im sure all is ok probably still in the mail.

i'll contact you the min it arrives. Please do the same.

take care

Jeff


ME to doc
Aug 19
Jeff,

I just wanted to check in with you. I haven't recevied the SOCOM yet and wanted to see if the knife I sent you arrived yet? I was worried because you said you sent it on the 28th and they told you it would take 7-10 days and its been 22 days. Have you ever had problems shipping itesm before? Please let me know when you have a chance,

Thank You,

ME


doc mac to me
Aug 19
Hi ME,

Nothing yet here either?
I have had one knife lost in the mail so to speak. I'm trying to find out if customs has seized mine. It shouldn't take this long unless they are holding them or someone has picked them up along the way. Will let you know if i find anything out, my brother is a police officer so maybe he can get some answers under the radar.

take care

jeff


ME to doc
Aug 19
Jeff,

I checked into the transaction from when I shipped your kniofe and was able to pull up tracking. It cleared customs and is showing that it was delivered on the 6th of August. Do you have a tracking number from when you sent my knife? I pasted your below.

ME


Label/Receipt Number: CJ19 4966 883U S

Detailed Results:

Delivered Abroad, August 06, 2009, 10:42 am, CANADA
At Foreign Delivery Unit, August 06, 2009, 7:19 am, CANADA
Out of Foreign Customs, August 04, 2009, 7:22 pm, CANADA
Into Foreign Customs, August 04, 2009, 10:27 am, CANADA
Arrived Abroad, August 04, 2009, 10:27 am, CANADA
International Dispatch, August 02, 2009, 4:40 pm, FOREIGN CENTERJERSEY CITY NJ 099
Arrival
Electronic Shipping Info Received, July 28, 2009


doc mac to me
Aug 19
sorry no i dont i shipped it regular mail and did not receive a tracking number. my wife may still have the receipt though i will ask her. maybe there is something on that if she didnt throw it out.
I'm currently away working i'll check with my neighbour to see if any parcels are there for me.

jeff


ME to doc
Aug 19
Jeff,

Please do. I'm sure you can understand my concern at this point. Please let me know as soon as you hear something.

Thank You,


doc mac to me
Aug 20
I understand completly.

As soon as i know something i'll let you know. I hope its not seized by customs.

Jeff

doc mac to me
Aug 21
hey ME,

I asked my neighbour to check my mail box, he said he really cant see anything in there, he shined a light in the slot to make sure no package was there as i have the key here in alberta.

I asked him to check everyday and let me know if anything arrives. any socom yet?

jeff


ME to doc
Aug 21
Jeff,

Nothing yet. Just so I'm understanding this correctly. You have not been home since the 6th when the tracking says this was delivered?

ME


doc mac to me
Aug 21


i will get my brother to call the post office to see if there is a package there. obviously there is a mix up somewhere.

Jeff


doc mac to me
Aug 21
ME Did someone sign for the knife here? or was it dropped off?

jeff


ME to doc
Aug 21
The tracking number just says it was delivered. I did not see where it had a signature or anything that would indicate one was required. Has your brother made any headway? We are approaching the 30 day mark. I want to make sure I find out what the deal is before then.

ME


doc mac to me
Aug 21
just called him, He made no headway they had no idea here what happened.

he figures mine is seized by customs and being held. I dont know what the hell to do?


ME to doc
Aug 21
Yours made it through customs fine. You can see that in the tracking data I sent you. It says it cleared customs 7:22PM August 4th.

Out of Foreign Customs, August 04, 2009, 7:22 pm, CANADA
Into Foreign Customs, August 04, 2009, 10:27 am, CANADA


doc mac to me
Aug 21
I mean mine might have bin seized. i have no idea where the knife you sent is my brother said its not in my mailbox?

jeff


ME to doc
Aug 21
The odds that both of our knives disappeared are fairly low. I ship all the time all over the place and never have lost a package. When did you ship...what did the post office say...and were you away from your home since the 6th when the knife I sent you was listed as delivered?

ME


doc mac to me
show details Aug 21
I shipped the day before you did, the post office is checking into it they said it may have bin put in the wrong mail slot.
i left for work on i believe the 4th.

will let you know if anything turns up tomorrow.


doc mac to me
Aug 22
Im moving up here to alberta and also asked them to forward all mail here.
 
PART II

ME to doc
Aug 22
Okay...so that I am clear on where we stand here...

You ask me about a trade on JD... I agree since knives you offered were ones I am looking for. I pick one and you say great...a trade is agreed on. You ask me to ship it to you in Canada and mark it as a tool.

We agree to ship same time. We both let each other know we have shipped our knives to each other.

Over two weeks pass and I ask you if you have recieved anything as I have not.

I wait a week and contact you again letting you know I had not received the knife asking if you had received mine. You say no I...no knife yet. I decide to check the track since when you trade you should always use a tracking number in case situations like this occur. I see that the tracking shows my package to you as being delivered...7 days after I sent it...after it cleared customs fine. I ask what the deal is...I see it delivered and provide you a copy of the proof. Suddenly...you say you're away at work...and will check with your wife. Concerned obvioiusly...I want more information. You say you will have your brother call the post office to find out what happened.

Then I get this last message that tells me you're moving to Alberta. Okay...no this has bad deakl written all over it. No one in their right mind would not be suspicious of this deal at this point.

I'll wait to hear from one last time because...I understand things happen. But after that I plan on taking this to the forums for resolution. I'm sure you can understand why.

Thank You,


doc mac to me
Aug 22
ME
This does have bad deal on it. I have no idea what has went wrong i did send your knife too.

Maybe JD can resolve this as i have not received mine either. Lets give it a week to see if anything turns up you never know?

then if still nothing we can work something out i hate to see this end bad and would send another socom or reinburse you because obvisouly your knife made it here but something happened at the post office end im sure, and they will never admit that.

Jeff


ME to doc
Aug 22
Okay...we will wait a week and reach ot to each other next Saturday. I will let you know if anything arrives...please do the same if you find any new informstion.

ME


doc mac to me
Aug 23
will do ME

jeff


ME to doc
Aug 30
Well its been a week and a day and nothing arrived. I'm guessing since you did not contact me you did anot find out any new information on your end. Please let me know if you did so we can resolve this.

ME


doc mac to me
Aug 31
Hi,

Wow still no socom?? Sorry i couldnt mail sooner, have been working mad hours up here.

Have some good news, the triton made it in one piece. My brother was asking around the apartment complex and had spoken to my neighbour who told him he had signed for the package knowing i was away for work.

anyways you say there is still no socom on your end? I'm thinking i will get my brother to send the triton back to you when he is home from vacation. Does this sound good too you?

let me know.


Jeff


ME to doc
Aug 31
Jeff,

No...but it looks like that is my only option. Please do this as soon as possible and provide me a tracking number. I am extremely busy as well...and no longer want to waste my time or money with this deal. Please get back to me as soon as possible.

Thank You


doc mac to me
Sep 4 (12 days ago)
Ya no kidding. At least your not out a knife.

When my brother gets home from vacation i'll ask him to mail it back

Jeff


ME to doc
Sep 4 (12 days ago)
Please send it with signature confirmation and let me know the tracking number. Is your brother on extended vacation or anything else I should be aware of? I just want to make sure my knife doesn't disappear.

Whether or not I'm out a knife yet is still up in the air. At the very least I'm out shipping, turned down several offers on the knife, and had the Triton out of my possession and off the market for over a month. I do feel for you abotu your knife...but from my end...someone offers me a trade on my knife...I ship immediately. I wait weeks...I have know knife and you tell me you have no knife. I check the tracking to find out it was delivered. You then tell me you're aware with work. You say you'll check with you wife. Then you tell me you're moving. I agree to give it one more week. No knife and I don't hear anything from you so I email you. You tell me the you found the knife but have been too busy to email me. Whenever you go into a trade you should always make sure you have the knife and can be there to receive the knife. And you should always use tracking numbers like the forum says. With all of this sketchy info its tough to believe that the knife was sent and you're out a knife. I apologize if that is what happened but you have to admit if you were on the receiving end of this you would feel the same. I've done countless deals and never had one problem. I know everyone has problems dude. I have been working 12 hour days with only Saturdays off trying to pay for a wedding and I've managed to complete many trades and sales. My poor fiancee just lost her job...and yesterday I find out my caterer went out of business and took our $5000.00 deposit with them so now we need to find a pay for a new caterer in the next 30 days. I guess my faith in people is slipping a bit so you'll have to forgive me. The 300 or so dollars I could get in selling this knife would definitely help us and I would just hate to not get it or get too late to help before the wedding...

ME


doc mac to me
Sep 9 (8 days ago)
Dude this is a cop that im trying to get to send an illegal knife across borders, and you want all this LOL
You will be lucky if he doesnt keep the knife and charge you for sending illegal knives across the border!!!
I'll let you know when he can send it.


ME to doc
Sep 9 (8 days ago)
Want all of what? Asking that you provide tracking information and signature confirmation is how all trades should be carried...as stated on the forums. I hardly think that is asking much when the first knife was sent without proof of sending or tracking and it magically disappeared. I only wanted to keep the same thing from happening.

You respond to that with a threat and tell me I'm lucky if your brother doesn't keep the knife and charge me...all for doing exactly what you asked me to do. You act is if I am the bad guy here. It is becoming clear that you have no intention of making this right...and perhaps never did. My only recourse now appears to take this to the forums and hope no one ever has to go through this again.

BTW. Cops can't charge people in other countries with crimes. Even if they could...you would be equally as culpable. So I guess you'd be lucky too.

Poor form my friend.


doc mac to me
Sep 9 (8 days ago)
LOL ok man you do what you have to do.....I'll post on the forums right behind you.... no worries.

take care


doc mac to me
Sep 9 (8 days ago)
what should we post? we both sent illegal knives across the border and now we do not have either one????


ME to doc
Sep 9 (7 days ago)
I will simply post the truth. I could post this email string and I doubt anyone would ever enter into a trade with you again. I was more than understanding...never got mad after waiting days/weeks to hear from you. Based on how you have responded here I have no reason to believe you ever sent your part of the trade. Responding with threats and things like "LOL" certainly doesn't help your case. I can prove that I immediately sent my part of the trade...which you initiated...and that was received on your end. You cannot prove you even sent your end...and your communications since the trouble began. How you have responded in this email string would certainly make anyone think twice about trading with you...at the very least make you send your end first. As you can see though most guys on the forums are honorable and probably would not waste their time with you.

I guess the better question wouldbe what would you post? I have been nothing but nice here even after the garbage with you being at work, then moving, your wife had to check, then a neighbor....then your brother...the same brother who I should be lucky he is not keeping stolen property. You got upset because I wanted tracking and signature confirmation...hardly an offense.

My point in posting would be so that no other person would have to deal with this. As you can see from my feedback...and the feedback I have placed with others...I have completed many deals on the forums with positive feedback. I simply do not want others to have to deal with this mess.


doc mac to me
Sep 10 (7 days ago)
I will get him to ship it ok?
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Sounds like a plan.

Thanks

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On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:14 PM, ME
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> Sounds like a plan.
> Thanks
 
He still has not even bothered to reach out to me. I'm glad it worked out for you. Just out of curiosity...did he ever mention my "deal"?

Sorry SC. I am afraid there was no mention of anything else. My last dialog with Jeff predated you and me coming into contact by almost a week. From that point on I simply have waited for the knife to come back; two weeks.
 
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