help choicing large survival nuke proof knife

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thats my three choices who is best and why?

want a knife that can do it all survive hard abuse like batoning and chopping and take that abuse year after year after year
 
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Esse Junglas is the best of what you chose.

As much as I love Buck knives, the Hoodlum has the notch breaking the blade in half.
and Tops knives is plain expensive.
 
I don't know anything about tops, but the fact that the steel is the same does not mean the quality is the same. Heat treat is important as well as blade shape.
 
Well none of them will survive a nuke.

I would get the Esee. They have their heat treat down. The sheath is very high quality. And their warranty is at the top in the knife industry: Forever, transferable, and no questions asked. Plus, it feels great in hand.

Both the buck and tops come with Nylon sheaths and both have limited warranties. The tops looks way over priced for what you get. I don't like big notches in my blades.

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re: --> want a knife that can do it all survive hard abuse like batoning and chopping and take that abuse year after year after year

I know this is not one of your choices - but would you consider a Rajah II? It can survive hard abuse and I am sure it could be used for chopping and batoning.

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Definitely not the Buck... I personally love it, would satisfy the pirate in me as it looks like a pirate blade, but certainly not as resilient as the other two proven ones, capable of taking a beating. Can't go wrong with either in terms of heavy duty performance.
 
The Junglas is the better knife in terms of geometry, better sheath, customisability and general value for the money. Tops does a premium differential heat treat but not as friendly of a design for a broad array of purposes. Bucks warranty is a 100% no questions asked guarantee but I'm not sure if their change in the heat treat process has resolved the breakage issues. Hope this helps!
 
Depending on the type of nuclear explosion (fusion vs fission) the heat produced will far exceed the million degree mark (fusion) or come close to half a million degrees (fission). Either way, that's just gonna ruin the heat treat on any of your knives. Barring nuclear disaster, I would say the junglas is the best suited for you.
 
Of the three I can only speak of experience with the Junglas. I have been using mine for over 2 years during back country excursions and it just plain WORKS. Good ergos, great heat treat, and an amazing sheath all backed by that ESEE warrenty...
Makes you use it with the utmost confidence and that's why I like it as my go to woods blade.
As a wildcard I would give the BK9 a good look too. :thumbup:

 
codycash said:
The Junglas is the better knife in terms of geometry, better sheath, customisability and general value for the money. Tops does a premium differential heat treat but not as friendly of a design for a broad array of purposes. Bucks warranty is a 100% no questions asked guarantee but I'm not sure if their change in the heat treat process has resolved the breakage issues. Hope this helps!
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Sorry, but this simply isn't true in any way what-so-ever. You should probably go look at the warranty before saying such a thing.

The buck warranty:

"We warranty each and every Buck knife to be free of defects in material and workmanship for the life of the knife, and we will repair or replace with a new Buck knife, at our option, any Buck knife that is defective. Buck Knives does not warrant its products against normal wear or misuse. Buck Knives are not intended to be used as hammers, chisels, pry bars or screwdrivers. If your knife was damaged due to misuse, our repair department can analyze the damage and repair it for a reasonable fee. If your knife is unable to be repaired, we will extend a one- time courtesy offer, allowing you the option to purchase a new knife for 50% off of our MSRP price listed on the website, excluding any custom knives or web specials."

It only took the amount of time to type "buck warranty" into google to find this information. I would advise people to take that small amount of time to research such simple things before making wildly inaccurate statements.
 
I much prefer the point styling and dropped handle of the Anaconda, but the low sabre edge geometry is going to be far inferior in slicing to the two others... Even if you re-work the edge with very tall bevels to match the sharpness, there is the issue of maintaining an edge with such tall bevels after the initial edge bevel is heavily used... The sheath rattles a little, but the two velcro straps offer the unique option of unobtrusively flattening completely out of the way, for routine use, if you tighten the sheath's blade fit with nylon strips glued inside... It then becomes a friction fit sheath, with the option of an occasional more secure strapping in.

On the good side, the sheath pockets are really capacious... The sheath is not as well made as Spec Ops or Eagle, but is durable enough.

Strictly for the "fighting point" styling and dropped handle, I would pick the Anaconda, but that is just my own fighting-knife biaised preference: I realize it would an inferior user because of the dumb low sabre grind... The notches in the blade create a weak point when batonning through knots, so that the blade may take a "set" instead of springing back straight...

The differential heat-treating of TOPS could be a big plus... I find their handles superior: They truly grip better when wet... Have you considered a 10" Armaggedon, or the similar 9" Dart instead? They are much better designed in blade geometry, though they require a rod sharpener...

Anaconda:

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The Dart really seems excellent:

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craytab said:
Sorry, but this simply isn't true in any way what-so-ever. You should probably go look at the warranty before saying such a thing.

The buck warranty:

"We warranty each and every Buck knife to be free of defects in material and workmanship for the life of the knife, and we will repair or replace with a new Buck knife, at our option, any Buck knife that is defective. Buck Knives does not warrant its products against normal wear or misuse. Buck Knives are not intended to be used as hammers, chisels, pry bars or screwdrivers. If your knife was damaged due to misuse, our repair department can analyze the damage and repair it for a reasonable fee. If your knife is unable to be repaired, we will extend a one- time courtesy offer, allowing you the option to purchase a new knife for 50% off of our MSRP price listed on the website, excluding any custom knives or web specials."

It only took the amount of time to type "buck warranty" into google to find this information. I would advise people to take that small amount of time to research such simple things before making wildly inaccurate statements.
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Sorry man, but all that written warranty stuff is for legal reasons. I have been using the Buck warranty for 20yrs. They will replace or repair "no questions asked" for life. Any owner, any reason. I sent them a 119 I found in the gutter broken in half with no handle. Told them I found it and that it had probably been run over by a hundred cars. 2 weeks later, NEW KNIFE! BUCK has the best warranty in the business and has forever, do some actual research and you will see that they are forced to have what appears to be a limited warranty in writing due to state regulation but that is not the case. They have replaced at least 12 broken knives for me and have repaired more broken tips than I can count, along with free sharpening. Look up Buck warranty service anywhere and you will find that no one has issues with the warranty. Same warranty they have had since the 60's but new laws require a written. Limited to be provided.
 
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