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Thanks for the heads-up, Jockohomo. I've never seen those. I like that drop point model quite a bit...
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Help finding a new bushcraft knife.
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I have 2 Nebula from Bark River and find them useful, tough but light enough to carry. I echo the positive sentiments about their Sandvik stainless too. Sheathes could be better perhaps...
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doc canada. The same thought crossed my mind but being a simple man I don't know all the terms used around here. I just bought the new KOA Bushmaster Alskan Trail/Camp knife that can be seen in the fixed blade section of KOA's Site. This is more what I would call a Bush Knife with the 91/2 inch D2 blade and Safty Grip. I do However have more than a few Mora and Helle knives if its that class we are looking for.
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Be sure to let us know how this one works out Doc - got my eyes on this as well. May I ask who is you're supplier - Cumberland?
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Wow. I suppose my expections of a knife and it's uses differ from yours a bit. A "bush" knife, woodsrunning knife, woodsman's knife ...
I don't need to attack the environment and subdue it. Hacking chopping, slashing are not tasks normal to my needs. If I were cutting miles of trails through dense underbrush, I would use tools other than a knife. But that is just me and my own experiences.
I do understand the newer mindset that only big knives are useful. I really do. And I understand that it is from this perspective that you teach your students. But I don't agree with it at all.
In over 40 years I've never been shelterless because my knife was too small. Or unable to make my way through jungles, swamps and woods with a five inch blade. I have in fact made do with a blade made from one of my dog tags. And with a P-38. And once with a broken coke bottle. And also with a pen knife. Sure, I could have used something bigger, but I didn't have it. Yes, there are things you can do with a machete that you can't do with a five inch skinner. And things you can do with a five inch skinner that you can'd do with a machete. Both are good tools and both are compromises. Personally, I would rather have only the five inch knife that only the machete. But then I am just an old codger set in my ways and a product of experiences and conflicts from the previous century.
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Codger,
Your beating your head in the wall, these guys don't hunt and they don't fish they just beat things with their big knife, they don't try to be a part of nature they try to hack and slash it into submission. It is sad really. My grandpa carried a case XX slipjoint and a hardware store axe he reprofiled on a peddle grinder and forgot more by the time he was 12 than these "survival" instructors will ever know. Chris
Your beating your head in the wall, these guys don't hunt and they don't fish they just beat things with their big knife, they don't try to be a part of nature they try to hack and slash it into submission. It is sad really. My grandpa carried a case XX slipjoint and a hardware store axe he reprofiled on a peddle grinder and forgot more by the time he was 12 than these "survival" instructors will ever know. Chris
Hope im not one of those guys
though I do agree with that, knowledge can only do so much for some.
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I for one, use my knives 95 percent for hunting and fishing. I for one also don't claim that only a big knife will work in the field. I for one was stating what I consider a Bush Knife.
Much depends on what you do while in the Bush. In my spare time I make walking sticks so when I go into the woods I carry my Black Out folder, a 4 inch fixed blade and on a shoulder strap I carry a big knife like the Spec Plus Marine or Fighter knife or even the Ontario Spec Plus Machete. There is no need to kick dirt on someone who has a different idea or terminology than yours. BTW I have had more than a little survival training.
For anyone who has different ideas than I do, I am more than willing to discuss them without slander. I don't know it all.
Much depends on what you do while in the Bush. In my spare time I make walking sticks so when I go into the woods I carry my Black Out folder, a 4 inch fixed blade and on a shoulder strap I carry a big knife like the Spec Plus Marine or Fighter knife or even the Ontario Spec Plus Machete. There is no need to kick dirt on someone who has a different idea or terminology than yours. BTW I have had more than a little survival training.
For anyone who has different ideas than I do, I am more than willing to discuss them without slander. I don't know it all.
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I knew all along that Ray Mears, Mors Kochanski, Cody Lundin, Kephart and Nessmuk really hadn't a clue when it came to Bushcraft knives !!!
Your the Man bro !!!!:thumbup:
Damb it Pit you beat me to it. He is the man
ROTFLMAO......
Not to mention all the Granddads, and Great Granddads that did just fine with a small fixed blade. Hell some did more than fine with a slipjoint.
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Reminds me of that line from the Rob Roy movie. When asked what he thought of the Scottish Claymore sword an expert English fencer stated;
"You do not think much of our highland tools, then?
If I had to kill an ox, a claymore would be my first choice, Your Grace"
:jerkit:
"You do not think much of our highland tools, then?
If I had to kill an ox, a claymore would be my first choice, Your Grace"
:jerkit:
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Seems we got a bit off topic, I might be mistaken but I think matthew is referring to a bushcraft knife in the "ray mears" sense a spear point scandi grind etc etc for wood craft and the like. in that case you really can't go worng with one of the bark river bushcraft blade northstar etc. Or anything by helle particulay the fjiord comes to mind.. I fo your talking about being lost in the deep dark noowhere forever than maybe there would be other blades to choose from... I'm attending a 3 day survival workshop this weekend and I plan on bringing a sak in my pocket, and 12 inch ontario machete in my bag. That's about it as blades go.
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And yet, he lost.
A lot of this is personal preference as much as anything. The prejudice of those who prefer the small kniofe is just as bad as those that think their knives should be axes.
I don't know how many time I hear the tripe that "experienced woodsmen use small knives".
In my experience, experienced woodsmen carry several knives. None of them are a one knife man. Or should I say one blade man. They usually had a hatchet a medium length knife and some kind of folder, plus any dedicated skinners/filet knives. The closest thing to the general "bushcraft" knife was a fixed blade, as often a bowie style as a drop point. Usually 4-8" in length, and ran the gamut from the ubiquitous Buck Vanguard to the equally ubiquitous USMC Ka-Bar.
The general purpose knife was not used to process game, that's what the dedicated knives were for, and they were not used to fell trees and split wood "that's what you carry a hatchet for, son."
So nautrally, that's where my prejudices lie. My choice for a general purpose knife is a RAT-7, although the RAT-5 or even a Buck Vanguards would probably do just as well.
A lot of this is personal preference as much as anything. The prejudice of those who prefer the small kniofe is just as bad as those that think their knives should be axes.
I don't know how many time I hear the tripe that "experienced woodsmen use small knives".
In my experience, experienced woodsmen carry several knives. None of them are a one knife man. Or should I say one blade man. They usually had a hatchet a medium length knife and some kind of folder, plus any dedicated skinners/filet knives. The closest thing to the general "bushcraft" knife was a fixed blade, as often a bowie style as a drop point. Usually 4-8" in length, and ran the gamut from the ubiquitous Buck Vanguard to the equally ubiquitous USMC Ka-Bar.
The general purpose knife was not used to process game, that's what the dedicated knives were for, and they were not used to fell trees and split wood "that's what you carry a hatchet for, son."
So nautrally, that's where my prejudices lie. My choice for a general purpose knife is a RAT-7, although the RAT-5 or even a Buck Vanguards would probably do just as well.
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Hey kgd. Will do and yes, Cumberland is my supplier. He came highly recommended by one of the knifemakers on this forum. I don't want to name him because he may have arrangements with other knife dealers, as well.
As far as the big knife/little knife debate, do we really have to flog that dead horse again? I have both- what I consider a bushcraft blade (Moras up until I get my RC-3, at least and a few different small folders, the Buck Alpha Dorado being my favourite) and big blades as well - Tramontinas, Linders, Machax. The point being, I use different tools for different jobs. Nobody says you can only have one blade. Use what works for you and stop criticizing other people's choices. If it's a pissing contest you want, you win (damn prostate
) Since I have become a member here, I notice that a lot of people have left (damn, I hope it wasn't because of me ) - maybe they just tired of all the senseless bickering. How about giving it a rest?Doc
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Well said bro, another thing to take into account is the location that you are surviving in. For example I would much prefer a Parang type blade than a Skookum if I was in a jungle !!!
However I think reading between the lines this origional post was refering to the small Scandi type blades !