Help finding a new bushcraft knife.

And yet, he lost.

A lot of this is personal preference as much as anything. The prejudice of those who prefer the small kniofe is just as bad as those that think their knives should be axes.

I don't know how many time I hear the tripe that "experienced woodsmen use small knives".

In my experience, experienced woodsmen carry several knives. None of them are a one knife man. Or should I say one blade man. They usually had a hatchet a medium length knife and some kind of folder, plus any dedicated skinners/filet knives. The closest thing to the general "bushcraft" knife was a fixed blade, as often a bowie style as a drop point. Usually 4-8" in length, and ran the gamut from the ubiquitous Buck Vanguard to the equally ubiquitous USMC Ka-Bar.

The general purpose knife was not used to process game, that's what the dedicated knives were for, and they were not used to fell trees and split wood "that's what you carry a hatchet for, son."

So nautrally, that's where my prejudices lie. My choice for a general purpose knife is a RAT-7, although the RAT-5 or even a Buck Vanguards would probably do just as well.

Very well said. My bias (or what I'm comfortable with) leads to the axe, small fixed blade, and folder. However there are many ways to skin a cat. I will point out that I'm not the only one, and am sure not to be the last.

Point taken:o
 
I'm not one to select a certain blade size as a one-knife do all. I am getting an appreciation for the bushcraft-size knives for "bushcrafting" and what their advantages and disadvantages are. I also like to carry along a big chopper, more as a want than a need and they don't always get used, but they make good insurance for me and I don't mind the extra weight. For EDC, I usually have a small to medium sized fixed blade (3.5-5" blade) and so I believe you need to be well versed at making that work as it's the most probable knife you'll have on you when you need it. As much as I personally like big blades, they're just not always convenient to carry, especially on some backpacking trips or even day hikes. In some conditions though, you just cannot deny that a large chopper is more efficient at making a shelter and acquiring firewood...I do believe that skill can offset whatever disadvantage is preceived with any knife carried, whether it be a SAK, locking folder, small/medium fixed blade, large chopper/machete or axe; that's my focus first instead of knife selection.

With all this said, I have a few of the Scandi-Bushcraft knives, and really like what they can do for wood crafts. BRKT makes some great ones...the Northstar, Nebula and Aurora and all great. I really like the Bravo-1 and it's hell-for-stout, but is a little on the thick side for smaller projects. I would consider it a great outdoors knife more than a bushcraft-type.

Some of the Scandi versions from Mora, Helle, Brusletto and Roselli are great wood working knives. I really like my Roselli hunter. Some don't get a warm fuzzy about rat-tangs, but I haven't had any issues but neither have I overly abused them.

Fallkniven's F1 is a decent knife; the H1 is a great design, but I've found the blade just a little too thick.

I'm awaiting a Skookum Bush Tool, Skifa-Scandi and the NWA's knife when I get home. Hoping to get some "bush" time with them as well.

For general outdoors use, camping, backpacking, hunting and fishing, I like a smaller fixed blade the same size as the typcial bushcrafters...the Nessmuk design is growing on me, but I've used a couple of Dozier's models with great success in the past.

The problem with bushcraft knives, is that the UK has the market and they are quite pricey. A few custom makers offer them and other than the increased price is the wait time. If Spyderco ever gets theirs going, it will fill a big niche for those wanting to delve into the bushcraft area with the infamous bushcrafting styled blades. I often wonder about the "bushcraft" society, and yeah, some seem a little snobbish, I just don't think it's the pinnacle of evolution. The Scandanavians have been wood working for quite some time and their Scandi-ground knives have survived and thrived for some time. The Skookum Bush Tool has added some great flavors this time-tested design and given us full-tang lovers something to smile about. Really looking forward this this "evolved" scandi-bushcrafter.

Good luck on your search...like most of us, I doubt it will ever end because it's so much fun searching and trying out new designs or resurrecting old ones such as the Nessmuk.

ROCK6
 
So this has become a big chopper vs. tradtional woodcraft knife thread.

I gotta covered both ways;
Bark River Golok/Lil Chute combo

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Bark River Nebula

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My chopper is bigger than your chopper:p


Remember it's not how deep you fish, it's how your wiggle your worm.

LOL
 
So this has become a big chopper vs. tradtional woodcraft knife thread.

I gotta covered both ways;

My chopper is bigger than your chopper:p

Remember it's not how deep you fish, it's how your wiggle your worm.

LOL

:D That wasn't my intent to make this a small vs. big knife thread, but you bring up the point I was trying to make which is that combinations are good. Choppers aren't always needed, but when you need one, they do come in handy. My only issue is that you should learn the skills of the most likely knife you'll have on you, whether it's a nice little bushcraft knife or a folder as you may not have that large chopper available. Oh, and wiggling your worm if more effective than....well, never mind;)

ROCK6
 
I must admit I have set out with a Fallkniven A1 as my only blade in the past and was well served. However if I were stranded for a while and could trade a big knife for, let's say a hatchet, a regular sheath knife and a pocket folder, ala Nessmuck, I would.
 
Codger,
Your beating your head in the wall, these guys don't hunt and they don't fish they just beat things with their big knife, they don't try to be a part of nature they try to hack and slash it into submission. It is sad really. My grandpa carried a case XX slipjoint and a hardware store axe he reprofiled on a peddle grinder and forgot more by the time he was 12 than these "survival" instructors will ever know. Chris

Sadly, debate school graduate he is not.

Lets not debate grandfathers as mine walked on water.

"He was a cheat a womanizer and a drunk.

I worshipped him."

Best movie line ever.

Skam
 
Sadly, debate school graduate he is not.

I have no intention of debating. Or baiting, as it were. My intention is to point out the fallacy of the statement "all of the knives I've seen on this page are unfit as true bush knives...Ideal wilderness blades (and I've examined the blades carried by quite a few wilderness survival instructors), are long, thick, carbon steel powerhouses that take a scary edge and hold it through a mile of trailblazing...". That is an opinion based upon the poster's personal preferences, not a fact based in reality.

I also allowed as how there is currently a popularity of knives such as he describes, and plenty of fans of those knives buying them. And that is fine. I just do not believe it is doing justice to the vast majority of the members to tout that sort of knife as being the be-all-end-all, that if you don't own and carry one your life isn't worth spit in a survival situation. That is just plain wrong.

Codger
 
in my modest experience as a hiker and fisher (soon to be hunter), i have to agree with some of you here... there is no occasion where i would go out with only one blade...

but that is not what the original post asks for...if i understand it correctly matthew wants a bushcraft knife... so surely if he was to go out into the woods he would probably take an axe or a saw or both to assist him in his tasks.

bushcraft as defined by the Random House Unabridged Dictionary states that bushcraft is a "skill in anything pertaining to bush country, as in finding one's way, hunting, or finding water."

i believe that the original post pertains to his wanting of a knife which he can hone his outdoor skills with...

therefore we should not be arguing about large knife vs small knife but a knife suitable for these tasks.

if i understand the post correctly i would suggest a medium sized fixed blade with approximately 3-5 inch blade. the smaller blades may not have the maximum chopping potential of a large chopper but they can still be used to make necessary tools which can accomplish larger tasks...

say for example you wanted to split open a dead log which had fallen over... you could take your bushcraft knife, carve up some wedges and use a large baton to drive the wedges into the natural cracks of the wood... thus splitting the wood without the necessity of a large chopper...(this is only one of many examples)

my suggestions would be the following:

fixed blades:
any of the grohmann's
mora clipper or 2000
cold steel pendleton hunter
buck vanguard
spyderco moran drop point

folders:
buck 110
spyderco endura or native

cheers

JC
 
also a fears foster survival knife would be a good bush tool in my opinion
 
I have no intention of debating. Or baiting, as it were. My intention is to point out the fallacy of the statement "all of the knives I've seen on this page are unfit as true bush knives...Ideal wilderness blades (and I've examined the blades carried by quite a few wilderness survival instructors), are long, thick, carbon steel powerhouses that take a scary edge and hold it through a mile of trailblazing...". That is an opinion based upon the poster's personal preferences, not a fact based in reality.

I also allowed as how there is currently a popularity of knives such as he describes, and plenty of fans of those knives buying them. And that is fine. I just do not believe it is doing justice to the vast majority of the members to tout that sort of knife as being the be-all-end-all, that if you don't own and carry one your life isn't worth spit in a survival situation. That is just plain wrong.

Codger

Codger, I don't think skammer was referring to you with his comments. Anyway, I like all knives, big, small and in-between. Having said that, I agree 100% with your comments above.

Doc
 
Sadly, debate school graduate he is not.

Lets not debate grandfathers as mine walked on water.

"He was a cheat a womanizer and a drunk.

I worshipped him."

Best movie line ever.

Skam

Ah skammer, can't win your arguements so you always get personal, that's OK, I'm a big boy and can take it.

So much for the truce, so how is my favorite survival instructor. Chris

EDIT: As I have told you before, I am tired of this pointless and incessant arguing. Also, as I have said, you will not be able to convince me that I am wrong, having spent the better part of 30 years using the tools that I prefer in environments ranging from rainforest to desert. As I am sure that I can not convince you that the tools that you use are not the best for your particular environs. I have said all this before and meant it, I do not wish to continue this "bantor" as you put it in another post, and am also quite tired of your personal attacks, since in your words I am a troll, not very smart and in your last post not able to debate on an intelligent level, I concede, and will no longer try. I am giving you the distinction of being the first person I have ever placed on an ignore list.

I wish you the best of luck, Chris
 
I understand your not wanting to wait 6 months on a custom maker. However, you might try Abe Elias (Diving Sparrow Knifeworks).

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He makes many different knives including the ones above (Savannah, Northern Bushcraft/Survival, and Savannah Jr.). As a custom maker he can make them from the type of steel that you want, grind you like, and handle material you prefer. See them in action here: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=495486


His website is: http://home.cogeco.ca/~aelias/

He can be emailed at: Kanew@hotmail.com
 
I understand your not wanting to wait 6 months on a custom maker. However, you might try Abe Elias (Diving Sparrow Knifeworks).

dsc03038je8.jpg


He makes many different knives including the ones above (Savannah, Northern Bushcraft/Survival, and Savannah Jr.). As a custom maker he can make them from the type of steel that you want, grind you like, and handle material you prefer. See them in action here: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=495486


His website is: http://home.cogeco.ca/~aelias/

He can be emailed at: Kanew@hotmail.com

Very good looking knives the middle one is especially nice. Chris
 
Very good looking knives the middle one is especially nice. Chris

Thanks Chris! I have been giving that one a real work out this last month and look forward to deer season. After all the whittling and cutting and camp chores it still slices tomatoes like it did when it was new. The balance is superb.
 
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