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Help me find the right Case Stockman
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I found a "standard knife company" made by Case version of the 090 in plain white bone that looks pretty nice.
Yeah, I'm just really trying to stay firm on the idea that I shouldn't have to modify a brand new knife.
It looks great, but too expensive. Custom handmade level pricing.
True, the sheepfoot does ride low but I got one recently and the Spey blade tip was conspicuously proud!
Queen 26 is in my view the best Small stockman ever, blades sit low etc but may not be easy to find
Consider CASE's 63090 pattern. 3 3/8" sunk joints, nice cut out on pile side to access the Spey (which can be ground into a Pen should you prefer) Equal End pattern, long pull Clip and a Sheepfoot that is only just above the Clip when closed. Brilliant smaller knife, like a Pen Knife but with 3 blades and unique to CASE.
I live in Europe and get my CASES from an excellent, trustworthy Bay seller. Can't name him here but can let you know privately. Point is, if I can buy with total confidence overseas should be the same for domestic buyers
Will Power
I'll send a DM. I'll also check out the Queen 26
I like that frame. Seems like a pretty exemplary Stockman.
I know, and I should probably not care about proud tips so much or be willing to file the kicks (which I've done many times on several different brands) but I just don't think it should be necessary.
So I haven't gotten a Case stockman yet, but I hope to soon.
I thought I'd post some pictures of the GEC stockman style knives I have and what I like about them.
GEC Northfield #81 Abilene Stockman in Oil Sucker Rod Wood
Extremely classic serpentine shape and blade combination
Sheepfoot sits at the same spine height as the clip point, and well within the frame
GEC Northfield #82 Dixie Stock Knife in Indian Paintbrush Jig bone
I'd say an improved blade shape combination with turkish clip point, wharncliffe, and drop point
Easy to pocket for its size with the slim frame, rounded bolsters, and low sitting blades
Also, the wharncliffe tip sits WELL within the frame
I also had a GEC 53 Stockman in Bumble Bee Jig bone and it was also a great design. The blades all sat very low and made for a comfortable knife. Wish I had kept that one. Would really like to get one of the 53 stockmen in stainless, and an 81 Abilene also.
I thought I'd post some pictures of the GEC stockman style knives I have and what I like about them.
GEC Northfield #81 Abilene Stockman in Oil Sucker Rod Wood
Extremely classic serpentine shape and blade combination
Sheepfoot sits at the same spine height as the clip point, and well within the frame
GEC Northfield #82 Dixie Stock Knife in Indian Paintbrush Jig bone
I'd say an improved blade shape combination with turkish clip point, wharncliffe, and drop point
Easy to pocket for its size with the slim frame, rounded bolsters, and low sitting blades
Also, the wharncliffe tip sits WELL within the frame
I also had a GEC 53 Stockman in Bumble Bee Jig bone and it was also a great design. The blades all sat very low and made for a comfortable knife. Wish I had kept that one. Would really like to get one of the 53 stockmen in stainless, and an 81 Abilene also.
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The Dixie is a favourite of mine but I only have the Blackwood Northfield, would love a Stag or an Osage Orange or Dark bone Tidioute though.
I think I'm finally going to order a Case stockman tonight, but for now here are my thoughts on the Queen Railsplitter.
I think this is a really cool knife. I like the unusual pattern, I like the sturdy wider blades, and in theory I like the blade shapes (clip, coping, spear).
However, I found the coping blade sat somewhat high, but moreso the point on the top of the coping blade was just too sharp. It made use uncomfortable unnecessarily, while not really adding any utility over a more rounded sheepfoot.
So, although I had decided not to keep knives that I don't like as they come from the factory and not modding knives just to like them, it seems I keep breaking that decision. So I rounded off that top point a bit and dropped the spear and coping blade kicks a bit.
It made it MUCH more comfortable without detracting any openability. Here's a comparison next to each other. The angle is a little different in the two pictures, the coping blade nail nick is not obscured by the spear blade.
I still think I'd really like to get a Queen #26. It looks nice. They're still available in amber carved stag bone, which I've come to realize I really like.
I think this is a really cool knife. I like the unusual pattern, I like the sturdy wider blades, and in theory I like the blade shapes (clip, coping, spear).
However, I found the coping blade sat somewhat high, but moreso the point on the top of the coping blade was just too sharp. It made use uncomfortable unnecessarily, while not really adding any utility over a more rounded sheepfoot.
So, although I had decided not to keep knives that I don't like as they come from the factory and not modding knives just to like them, it seems I keep breaking that decision. So I rounded off that top point a bit and dropped the spear and coping blade kicks a bit.
It made it MUCH more comfortable without detracting any openability. Here's a comparison next to each other. The angle is a little different in the two pictures, the coping blade nail nick is not obscured by the spear blade.
I still think I'd really like to get a Queen #26. It looks nice. They're still available in amber carved stag bone, which I've come to realize I really like.
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Wow! That 81!!!! Really nice!So I haven't gotten a Case stockman yet, but I hope to soon.
I thought I'd post some pictures of the GEC stockman style knives I have and what I like about them.
GEC Northfield #81 Abilene Stockman in Oil Sucker Rod Wood
Extremely classic serpentine shape and blade combination
Sheepfoot sits at the same spine height as the clip point, and well within the frame
GEC Northfield #82 Dixie Stock Knife in Indian Paintbrush Jig bone
I'd say an improved blade shape combination with turkish clip point, wharncliffe, and drop point
Easy to pocket for its size with the slim frame, rounded bolsters, and low sitting blades
Also, the wharncliffe tip sits WELL within the frame
I also had a GEC 53 Stockman in Bumble Bee Jig bone and it was also a great design. The blades all sat very low and made for a comfortable knife. Wish I had kept that one. Would really like to get one of the 53 stockmen in stainless, and an 81 Abilene also.
LastRodeo
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I agree. I have never seen a #81 with those covers before.
Made as a parts knife for the 2014 Rendezvous. 8 made.
Thank you, it's one of the best GEC (or any brand) knife I've seen.
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I know, I know. I'm pretty much populating this thread myself, and I should just buy the dang Case already.
But in the mean time I got my Great Eastern Cutlery #53 Cuban Stockman in Burnt Stag and stainless steel!
It's a beauty! What a cool knife design. It feels very compact for the length, slender. The sheepfoot sits well within the frame, and actually on this one the clip and spey blades are closer to proud than I like but I don't plan to do anything about it for now as it's not a practical issue.
I also found this old Kutmaster USA made serpentine stockmen while at home for Independence Day. It has a great design, with the spine of the sheepfoot lining up pretty much exactly with the spine of the clip point. No proud or close to proud blades either. Unfortunately it has very little snap and the blades hit each other when closing. I wish someone was making this pattern still. Is there anything very similar?
Finally, does anyone have experience with the Utica Stockmen? The below are two I've been considering but can't find many pictures of or reviews etc.
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/UT32779GB/utica-big-pine-premium-stockman-3-916-jigged-bone-handles
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/UT...-serpentine-stockman-3-14-jigged-bone-handles
But in the mean time I got my Great Eastern Cutlery #53 Cuban Stockman in Burnt Stag and stainless steel!
It's a beauty! What a cool knife design. It feels very compact for the length, slender. The sheepfoot sits well within the frame, and actually on this one the clip and spey blades are closer to proud than I like but I don't plan to do anything about it for now as it's not a practical issue.
I also found this old Kutmaster USA made serpentine stockmen while at home for Independence Day. It has a great design, with the spine of the sheepfoot lining up pretty much exactly with the spine of the clip point. No proud or close to proud blades either. Unfortunately it has very little snap and the blades hit each other when closing. I wish someone was making this pattern still. Is there anything very similar?
Finally, does anyone have experience with the Utica Stockmen? The below are two I've been considering but can't find many pictures of or reviews etc.
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/UT32779GB/utica-big-pine-premium-stockman-3-916-jigged-bone-handles
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/UT...-serpentine-stockman-3-14-jigged-bone-handles
I own a big pine stockman. Its a functional knife. fit and finish are below anything I've seen from case, by quite a bit. one blade has no snap at all, you have to actually push it all the way open and closed. its not loose, but no snap at all. also, the blades are carbon, and one spring. the other spring is stainless. that kind of bothers me. and I had to cut a divot in the scale to access the spey blade. Its functional, but if you are used to case and G.E.C. level fit and finish, you might be let down. If you were just looking for a knife to cut stuff it would work, but id take any case any day over another big pine.
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Awesome 53! You beat me to the punch on that one. I settled for the jigged bone that was offered up, but that stag is where it’s at!I know, I know. I'm pretty much populating this thread myself, and I should just buy the dang Case already.
But in the mean time I got my Great Eastern Cutlery #53 Cuban Stockman in Burnt Stag and stainless steel!
It's a beauty! What a cool knife design. It feels very compact for the length, slender. The sheepfoot sits well within the frame, and actually on this one the clip and spey blades are closer to proud than I like but I don't plan to do anything about it for now as it's not a practical issue.
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Utica seems to have dropped the Buckstag stainless line, and cut down on the Adirondack. They may be doing the Adirondack in 1095 now, like the Catskill and Big Pine. If so, they shouldn't be mixing stainless and carbon in knives that are meant to be one or the other anymore.
The Utica-made knives do open and close with less clacking and whacking than some of us like.
The Utica-made knives do open and close with less clacking and whacking than some of us like.
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Beat me to it
I got a Buck 371 Chinese made version of the 301.
I had previously gotten a 301 and was unhappy with the proud spey tip and extremely light springs.
The Chinese version is built pretty much the same. Slight gaps, but not too bad. No blade play. The springs are stronger. 4ishes on the main and sheepfoot, but a 7ish on the spey. That'd be fine normally but the nail nicks are not well made, they have a an angled edge that makes your nail slip off as you try to open it. But it's manageable. I dropped the kicks on the spey and sheepfoot blades.
Overall not a great knife, but it was $12 so maybe I'll use it some or give it away.
Have some Cases on the way, will update.
I had previously gotten a 301 and was unhappy with the proud spey tip and extremely light springs.
The Chinese version is built pretty much the same. Slight gaps, but not too bad. No blade play. The springs are stronger. 4ishes on the main and sheepfoot, but a 7ish on the spey. That'd be fine normally but the nail nicks are not well made, they have a an angled edge that makes your nail slip off as you try to open it. But it's manageable. I dropped the kicks on the spey and sheepfoot blades.
Overall not a great knife, but it was $12 so maybe I'll use it some or give it away.
Have some Cases on the way, will update.
Finally bought a Case stockman.
Went with the Case 63090 Standard Knife Co. Equal End Stockman in Natural Bone (jigged, but it didn't say so in the description).
It's a well made knife. The blades all fit together well with no serious rubbing or crowding. It's also a two spring stockman, which I prefer over 3 spring. The secondary blades sit nice and low and don't impede ergonomics, and all three tips sit within the frame. The joints are well sunken and make for a nice feel in hand. The rounded bolsters also make it an easy and comfortable carry, and I find it fits in my watch pockets. The pulls are around a 5 on the secondaries and a 4 on the main, but they all have good snap and I'm happy with them. The bone is jigged in what I think is Case's corncob pattern, and I definitely wish it was smooth natural bone. It's on the smaller end of what I'd want in a stockman, but will be a useful little carry.
Unfortunately, the other two Case knives I ordered at the same time had to go back. One was a peanut in red sawcut bone and its main blade was so off center it rubbed the liner and both tips were just proud of the frame. The other was a 63047 medium stockman in jade green smooth bone. The covers on this one were INCREDIBLE. But unfortunately its sheepfoot had rough opening, it had some blade rap, and on top of those issues I thought it was a two spring but it was actually a 3 spring.
Went with the Case 63090 Standard Knife Co. Equal End Stockman in Natural Bone (jigged, but it didn't say so in the description).
It's a well made knife. The blades all fit together well with no serious rubbing or crowding. It's also a two spring stockman, which I prefer over 3 spring. The secondary blades sit nice and low and don't impede ergonomics, and all three tips sit within the frame. The joints are well sunken and make for a nice feel in hand. The rounded bolsters also make it an easy and comfortable carry, and I find it fits in my watch pockets. The pulls are around a 5 on the secondaries and a 4 on the main, but they all have good snap and I'm happy with them. The bone is jigged in what I think is Case's corncob pattern, and I definitely wish it was smooth natural bone. It's on the smaller end of what I'd want in a stockman, but will be a useful little carry.
Unfortunately, the other two Case knives I ordered at the same time had to go back. One was a peanut in red sawcut bone and its main blade was so off center it rubbed the liner and both tips were just proud of the frame. The other was a 63047 medium stockman in jade green smooth bone. The covers on this one were INCREDIBLE. But unfortunately its sheepfoot had rough opening, it had some blade rap, and on top of those issues I thought it was a two spring but it was actually a 3 spring.
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That jigging doesn't look too deep, take a sanding block to 'er! 
