Twenty or so new Schrades for $300.00 is probably less than her cost, depending on which knives she had and when she bought them. I think your offer may have been way too low. What kind of prices did she have on the individual knives? What was the total cost of all the knives in the display? Dealer cost on most cutlery goods is 50% of the retail price.
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The least price she had on any one knife was $30 and wouldn't budge off that for the 77OT I wanted.
Agreed, the 300 may have been way too low and I was prepared to go higher if she would have just seemed half way interested in selling.
Needed Codger there to negoiate for me
Agreed, the 300 may have been way too low and I was prepared to go higher if she would have just seemed half way interested in selling.
Needed Codger there to negoiate for me
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"You sure are a cutie, hon."
"Um... Ok, Thanks."
"Would you come home with me for a million dollars?"
"A mil...Sure!!!"
"How bout for a thousand dollars?"
"A thousand? I guess so."
"Would you come home with me for a hundred?"
"Hey! What do you think I am???!!"
"Hon, I think we establised that. Now we are negotiating."
It is a store and they sell things. IF you are seriously interested in the whole shebang, figure up what she wants for each knife, add them all together, and make a best offer, case thrown in. Allow her some profit. Say, 20-25%. Last MSRP on a 77OT was $34.95 in 2002, last year produced. She is already $5 down on it, right at the 1979 MSRP. The last dozen or so of these knives on eBay went for MSRP or $5-10 more. Plus shipping.
And as always, you have to just know when to cherry pick and walk away. An overeager buyer is called a "mark".
Codger :thumbup:
"Um... Ok, Thanks."
"Would you come home with me for a million dollars?"
"A mil...Sure!!!"
"How bout for a thousand dollars?"
"A thousand? I guess so."
"Would you come home with me for a hundred?"
"Hey! What do you think I am???!!"
"Hon, I think we establised that. Now we are negotiating."
It is a store and they sell things. IF you are seriously interested in the whole shebang, figure up what she wants for each knife, add them all together, and make a best offer, case thrown in. Allow her some profit. Say, 20-25%. Last MSRP on a 77OT was $34.95 in 2002, last year produced. She is already $5 down on it, right at the 1979 MSRP. The last dozen or so of these knives on eBay went for MSRP or $5-10 more. Plus shipping.
And as always, you have to just know when to cherry pick and walk away. An overeager buyer is called a "mark".
Codger :thumbup:
Amazing,,, no I am not a yankee, if you look at the post carefully, you will see Texas in the post and my ID..
No, I am not looking to make any fast money.
I believe I said I don't collect Schrade knives. Wanna see my BUCK or Swamt Rat collection?
I appreciate collectable knives. And my post started out by asking for help. Got a huge amount of good suggtestions, but no one ever offered up any dollar amounts that I should go with. Mainly from my lack of information given. My fault!!!!!!!!
Tried to get across my ignorance of what this display might be worth. If someone had of said $500, then thats where I would have started. Maybe I should have written down the individual numbers and worked this from that aspect. My bad...
I will be the first to admit that I don't negoiate well.
Some of you Texans stop in there if you get a chance and check out this display. Is right on US 59 at 150 in Shepherd
So I guess I will go back to collecting Buck brand. Too many brands for my old feeble brain to digest.
Thanks guys for all the good info... Adios....
No, I am not looking to make any fast money.
I believe I said I don't collect Schrade knives. Wanna see my BUCK or Swamt Rat collection?
I appreciate collectable knives. And my post started out by asking for help. Got a huge amount of good suggtestions, but no one ever offered up any dollar amounts that I should go with. Mainly from my lack of information given. My fault!!!!!!!!
Tried to get across my ignorance of what this display might be worth. If someone had of said $500, then thats where I would have started. Maybe I should have written down the individual numbers and worked this from that aspect. My bad...
I will be the first to admit that I don't negoiate well.
Some of you Texans stop in there if you get a chance and check out this display. Is right on US 59 at 150 in Shepherd
So I guess I will go back to collecting Buck brand. Too many brands for my old feeble brain to digest.
Thanks guys for all the good info... Adios....
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No, not at all. If she has a single knife you like and want, and you are satisfied with the price, lay the money down. I have given more, and I have given less than MSRP for knives, depending on their value to me. I recently bought one I thought was a steal, an upgrade from a less than mint early Old Timer I already had. I gave about fifteen bucks for it, but when it arrived, I was very disappointed. It was a well used rusty specimen with a dead main blade spring, and crinks that were crunk. I'll sell it cheap or give it to someone who needs a "type" knife to fill a hole in their collection until they can get a really nice one.
New U.S.A. Old Timers are not being made any more, and since value is a very personal thing, no one can tell you if you paid too much, only if you paid more than they would have. Stick around! Learn and buy (even if your interest is users) with a bit more knowledge!
Codger
New U.S.A. Old Timers are not being made any more, and since value is a very personal thing, no one can tell you if you paid too much, only if you paid more than they would have. Stick around! Learn and buy (even if your interest is users) with a bit more knowledge!
Codger
LFH said:
It was said earlier that dealer cost is 50% of the retail. So if you're really interested in everything, take a ride back & figure out her cost by adding up the inventory & then include the display case. I don't have a clue what the cost on the display would be. Maybe Codger or ltret could help you there.
Or do like Codger said & buy whatever knife you really want & don't get too hung up price. (as long as it's realistic of course) Personally, if I really wanted a 77OT, I'd give her $30 for it in a heartbeat. But everyone is different & how badly you want it is something you have to decide for yourself. Stick around LFH. There's good people on this forum who are most willing to help out & share their knowledge on Schrades. Nothing wrong with having some Schrades to go along with those Buck's.
LFH, I meant no offense by my remarks. I have some Buck's too and to put this in a perspective that we can both relate to, if she had an old Buck display with one of these in it along with others of a similar vintage, would you be offering her $300.00 for the whole shebang?
redshanks said:LFH, I meant no offense by my remarks. I have some Buck's too and to put this in a perspective that we can both relate to, if she had an old Buck display with one of these in it along with others of a similar vintage, would you be offering her $300.00 for the whole shebang?
I think the difference is, I recogonize what that knife is worth. And I saw nothing in the Schrade case that I recognized as coming close to it in value. And if the rest of the knives in this perspective were Buck slip joints. Then no... I would not have offered $300 unless there were some special customs, which don't show up in the display cases.
And I am more aggrivated at myself than anyone else that I couldn't lay my hands on this set. Just pains me to see those knives being sold off one at a time. I imagine that they are all the same year of mfg. Is one of the reasons I didn't go ahead and buy the muskrat.
Nice 186 for sure. Maybe one of these days I will grab one to go along with my small herd of 560's and a couple other ti's.
Maybe I will go in there between now and the end of the grand daughters basketball season and make a list of whats in the case and what she has on them. Maybe one of you guys need one to fill a collection would be glad to grab one for you. . And I just realized that I disn't ask her about boxes. The case could easily hold all of the boxes for them, maybe. . shows what a collector I am not....
LFH, you mentioned that the knives were all folders, were they a mix of Old Timer's and Uncle Henry's? Any scrimshaws? Did the display include any very large folding hunters? If she had any of those, we're talking some real money. If you plan on going back to the store, arm yourself with some prices for the knives she has. You could spend an hour looking at the eBay listings for Schrade knives to try and find examples of the knives that you remember from her display, and then find the prices for those. If you can tell me what she has, I'll be happy to try and help you with the values. It'll be somewhere between what Codger pays for a knife and twice that, which is what I have to pay for them.
redshanks said:
I have kind of hit and run in there. That lady is kind of a sourpuss and not user friendly.
But to best recollection, they were all Old Timers. Don't recall any being much larger than the 77. Several were a lot smaller. Son in law compared an OT in his pocket to one in the display about the size of a Buck 309 and it may have been the one she had marked $30,, small....
I wonder if she would let me photograpf that display..... but that all just tells her it may have value above what she has marked, and just drive the price up more.... Don't think I can win on any good deals on this one.
Thanks again guys for the help and info...
That is a bit too high, IMO. I'd walk and not think of it again.
It sounds like most of the knives were common models, easily found elsewhere, particulalry eBay. I don't think you really lost out. The big prize would have been the display case, not the knives.
Best Wishes,
Bob
Ah the price of things...
In a train down south (US) just after the civil war...
A well dressed young gentleman from the north is sitting in the front, a tough, unshaved cowboy with a couple of six guns on his belt is sitting in the back.
A nice looking young lady gets on and sits with the well dressed guy, after a few minutes she gets up angry and goes sit with the cowboy, she tells him: "that man offered me $10 for spending the night with him", cowboy stands up, goes to the front, takes out a gun and shoots all six rounds on the well dressed fellow, then turns to the rest of the passengers and says:
"Let this be a lesson to all them yankees who come over here and want to double the price of everything".
Luis
In a train down south (US) just after the civil war...
A well dressed young gentleman from the north is sitting in the front, a tough, unshaved cowboy with a couple of six guns on his belt is sitting in the back.
A nice looking young lady gets on and sits with the well dressed guy, after a few minutes she gets up angry and goes sit with the cowboy, she tells him: "that man offered me $10 for spending the night with him", cowboy stands up, goes to the front, takes out a gun and shoots all six rounds on the well dressed fellow, then turns to the rest of the passengers and says:
"Let this be a lesson to all them yankees who come over here and want to double the price of everything".
Luis
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Maybe you can help me regarding a Schrade case. A friend of mine had it for many years, and is trying to establish a value for it. The wood case is about 19" x 9" x 3" and holds six new knives, numbers 8041, 2941, 8801, 2661, 8341, and 7801. Inside the top, there is a cardboard behind a plastic sheet advertising "Schrade's Heritage. The Finest Line of American Made Bone Handled Knives" Aslo some other text, "Genuine Bone Handles", etc. The knives have the Schrade logo insert shows the manufacture date of 1983 on each knife (19 on the left, and 83 on the right). The bottom part of the case also has a plastic cover, and the knives appear to be untouched, certainly unused. Looks like a display case a salesman would sell to a retailer, as the case has hooks to hang it with the box open to display. I cant fingure out how to attach a picture of it to this posting, but you can email me for photos at wsatte3277@aol.com. I would appreciate any comments on the value of this small collection. Thanks!
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Just an FYI to anyone that might be interested in the display cases themselves.
A good portion of the cases that are out and about were made by a company called P&B Woodworking in Pine Bush NY. Not sure if they might still have any laying around, or if they have parts / plans if anyone wants to build one.
If display cases are your thing it might be worth looking them up and dropping them a line.
A good portion of the cases that are out and about were made by a company called P&B Woodworking in Pine Bush NY. Not sure if they might still have any laying around, or if they have parts / plans if anyone wants to build one.
If display cases are your thing it might be worth looking them up and dropping them a line.