Help! My Manix Steel Is Turning Red!!!

whining about minor visual details on a $100 dollar factory knife
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I'm not picking specificaly on TriHonda but yes this does seem to be illustative of a trend in unreasonable expectations, IMO.
 
I've got a Lil' Temp that I thought had rust in one of the pocket clip screw holes when I was switching the clip around to suit me, just after I got it, and just before I locked it away, never to see the light of day again and it made me sad.
Turns out it was excess locktite...maybe you are a victim of a spilled bottle of locktite?
If you want to send me your knife I will gladly give you my opinion. Please include S.A.S.E.
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DaveH said:
I'm not picking specificaly on TriHonda but yes this does seem to be illustative of a trend in unreasonable expectations, IMO.
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Indeed. Clearly it's a topic of much confilct.

In regards to Trihonda, I apologize for the outburst. It really had nothing to do with you. I've just become, personally, sick of the amount of scrutiny and complaining fine production companies seem to be getting as of late over completely minor aesthetic details and machining imperfections on knives that aren't even hand finished. What set me off was SirGalant's attack on my original post that merely stated that this kind of thing would not bother me. I understand that you were just curious and wanted to know more about it. I apologize for getting you caught in the crossfire.
 
I would`nt be worried about it seriously it does`nt detract from the performance in anyway ! It`s not rusting away to nothing . It`s a $100 knife and mass produced not every single one is going to look like the one in the catalogues ! If this was going in your collection never to see EDC then i`d suggest sending it back .
 
Well, this will be an EDC. So I can live with the redness (if I must). Of course, I'd rather not have the discoloration, but if it's a normal by-product of the manufacturing process, that sits a tad better with me than large amounts of rust.

As for this being a production knife. Yes it is. However, isn't the Manix hand-finished at Spyderco? It also retails for $180, so it is not a cheap production folder. I have many $3 and $4 knives that sit calmly in my safe, completely free of any discoloration. I don't think I would send it back for this. But a nice post from Sal (or Sypderco rep) explaining the red discoloration would be nice. remember, I've read similar posts talking about Manix flaws, and most of these flaws seemed innocuous to me (and normal). A red discoloration seems to stand out a bit more, and was worthy of a post.

J85, apology accepted. We're cool. I understand you're frustration. Just understand that to me, there is not a HUGE difference between a $180 knife and a $300 knife regarding noticible ugly discolorations and my expectations. However, I would certainly have much different expectations between the $4 (or even a $40) knife and the $180 knife.

;)
 
in my opinion it doesn`t matter how much the knife cost , you still worked hard for the money.
 
My Manix has a nice rich blue-green color in that area. This looks like the color of a piece that has just come out of the tempering oven. I get this same color when I'm drawing some of the hardness out of a blade's spine with a torch.
Since the coloration is on the lock bar it only stands to reason this is what you are seeing. I also see a uniform coloration on the spring.





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My Para has the same descoloration in the same places but I didn't notice until I read this thread. For me it doesn't matter at all but, of course, always is nice to know the reason of the descoloration, not to comply about it but just to increase my knife knowledge.
 
Trihonda,

About a year ago, out of curiosity, I asked the same question when I received my Para with the same discoloration. After I was told that it is from the laser and manufacturing process, I thought the discoloration was kinda neat and it still doesn't bother me today. Now, I actually like it! :)

BTW, I'm the king of asking dumb questions (not that your question was dumb) so don't try to take over my reign! :D

Best,
Tom
 
If my Native had spots on it, I would ask questions also, even though my Native can be had for $40. I don't think it is all about what you pay for a knife that is reason for concern, I think it is how much you like the knife in question that makes people picky. I love my Native so much, that I carry two folders (which I don't mind at all), so I don't have to use my Native for anything more than paper, although I think that will change when I get another Native, then I will carry two Natives (one for light use and the other for harder use):D.
 
I have a manix for two years now, the discoloration is not rust
I think it's caused by laser cutting. For as long as I have it it did not spread.
So it's not rust or oxidation. What's it then:confused: . Well you have to ask the expert I guess.
 
I have a CF military actually 2 of them and their is rust like stuff in the bottom of the lock face area of the blade as well. I dont know if it was their when i got them but I wont be buying any more spydercos to find out:thumbdn:
 
From what I gather (from this and other posts), this redness is NOT rust. That eases my mind greatly. I'm onto other spyder aquisitions and have let my brain forget about the ugly red splotches on my beautiful Manix folder... I'd still find it nice if Sal or someone from Spyderco would post some official info about this phenomenom, just to clarify it a bit. Peace!
 
"Doubt that it is corrosion. To me it looks like the reddish discoloration that is quite common on Spyderco laser cut S30V blades and lockbars."

I agree. I have seen it on a lot of the Golden Co. G-10 Spydercos. My Para had it, my Manix has it I'm sure somewhere and so did my old Yojimbo that I will miss until I get another one.

It doesn't look good but it doesn't hurt anything is not a flaw. For $100 the Manix if still one of the best knives you can buy if you need a large folder. In actual cutting tests, it out preforms $300-400 knives like Sebenzas and Striders. It may not look as pretty but Spyderco tends to value function over form or beauty. In knives, I do to. I don't like ugly knives but I would rather have a knife that has a few minor finish issues that cuts like a Manix than a perfect looking $400 Sebenza that wishes it could cut as well as a Manix. Solid truth brother! I have owned Sebenzas and they are not quite as good in actual use. They are well made and great looking but when you are cutting stuff, you don't have time to admire the Sebenza because you are trying not to let it slip out of your hands and cut your fingers off. Also it take a lot more effort to slice though many thing with a Sebenza than a Manix so there is even more danger there.
 
kgriggs8 said:
"Doubt that it is corrosion. To me it looks like the reddish discoloration that is quite common on Spyderco laser cut S30V blades and lockbars."

I agree. I have seen it on a lot of the Golden Co. G-10 Spydercos. My Para had it, my Manix has it I'm sure somewhere and so did my old Yojimbo that I will miss until I get another one.

It doesn't look good but it doesn't hurt anything is not a flaw. For $100 the Manix if still one of the best knives you can buy if you need a large folder. In actual cutting tests, it out preforms $300-400 knives like Sebenzas and Striders. It may not look as pretty but Spyderco tends to value function over form or beauty. In knives, I do to. I don't like ugly knives but I would rather have a knife that has a few minor finish issues that cuts like a Manix than a perfect looking $400 Sebenza that wishes it could cut as well as a Manix. Solid truth brother! I have owned Sebenzas and they are not quite as good in actual use. They are well made and great looking but when you are cutting stuff, you don't have time to admire the Sebenza because you are trying not to let it slip out of your hands and cut your fingers off. Also it take a lot more effort to slice though many thing with a Sebenza than a Manix so there is even more danger there.
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The sebenza and I know 100% the strider is going to outlast and not break under stress like the spyderco would. Spyderco has very nice blade shapes but I still prefer a SMF over any folder.
 
SubaruSTi said:
The sebenza and I know 100% the strider is going to outlast and not break under stress like the spyderco would. Spyderco has very nice blade shapes but I still prefer a SMF over any folder.
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Lol, I'm no knife EXPERT, but how many Manix's have you seen to lead you to your conclusion. They seem pretty solid IMHO. Not saying the other knives are junk (because I've never handled them), but you kinda make it seem like the Manix is ready to fall apart, lol... :confused:
 
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