Help! My Manix Steel Is Turning Red!!!

Trihonda,
It's difficult to say without seeing your knife in person. Based on your photos it isn't rust. If it still concerns you, send it in for us to inspect and we'll confirm what it is.

Kristi
 
once i sell my 3.5" bladed camouflage 70/80s vintage gerber guardian (like new , with sheath but no box) i can buy a manix.
 
The Manix may very well break before the Sebenza or Strider. Big deal. It is not like it is going to break easy. If you are breaking knives like the Manix, you need a fixed blade anyway. Knives are made to cut. The Manix cuts better than the Sebenza or the Strider yet is still very very strong.

I don't think I am ever going to break my Manix but I will use it. I like the Manix because it is the largest knife I have owned that can still be used as a knife. You can still do food prep and general EDC chores with it and it cuts like a knife not like a chisel.

I'm not saying the Sebenza and Strider are not good knives, they are just not the type of knife I will ever use. If I just carried a knife for emergencies or for self defense, they would be fine. I like to use my knives so they are out.
 
MSRP 184.95

I have to agree with you trihonda. If its a user, I probably go "this kinda sucks, but oh well". That being said however, at what point should we stop expecting a certain level of QC (including visual aspects also) when we purchase a knife from a top end company. I just bought a BM 710D2 that had some sort of spotting on the blade. I bought it as a user but I still expected better. Based on the logic above, I should only expect good fit and finish on my Chris Reeve's knives? Nah.
 
tazkristi said:
Trihonda,
It's difficult to say without seeing your knife in person. Based on your photos it isn't rust. If it still concerns you, send it in for us to inspect and we'll confirm what it is.
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Kristi,

Are you saying that Spyderco isn't aware of this discoloration so the knife has to be sent in for inspection? Certainly, Mr. Glesser has seen the discoloration before. Perhaps he could fill us in on why it shows up and put this issue to bed.

Best,
Tom
 
J85909266 said:
There is no way to help him out. He's whining about minor visual details on a $100 dollar factory knife as if it were a Sebenza. I'm becoming annoyed by threads like this. Blade play? Yeah, that sucks. Off center blade? Yeah, that bothers me too. Minor discoloration from factory machining and laser cutting that can only be seen upon close inspection and has no effect on literally anything at all besides your outrageous expectations for a flawless knife from a mass production factory? Sorry, absurd.
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+ Fracking 1

i have seen this sort of discoloration on the blade tangs of dozens of folders of all diferent brands and blade steels. Its a non issue.

Even if it was rust, just clean it off! Rusty knives still sharpen up, and they still cut just as well as they did before. Im not trying to be a pain in the butt, but if you want your knives to stay "pristiene" then you should lock them in a climate controlled display case and never touch, use, or carry them.

If you use your knives, even lightly, they WILL eventualy start to whare. eventualy you will drop it and put a knick in or dent the scales, you will slip while sharpening it and put a scratch on in the mirror polished blade, or the finish will start to whare off from rubbing aginst your wallet / cell phone all day. It is a natural part of life, and to be EXPECTED.
 
TAH said:
Kristi,

Are you saying that Spyderco isn't aware of this discoloration so the knife has to be sent in for inspection? Certainly, Mr. Glesser has seen the discoloration before. Perhaps he could fill us in on why it shows up and put this issue to bed.

Best,
Tom
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Tom,
No, we are aware of discolorations that occur naturally in the manufacturing process. We've addressed it previously. We don't believe Trihonda's is rusting, but if he is that concerned about it and wants an absolute answer, we'd have to see it first to confirm it. Basically, it's just due diligence. If it were my knife, I wouldn't be concerned, but I'm not Trihonda, so I wanted him to be aware of his options. It's not always possible to make a "diagnosis" from a picture posted on the web, so it would be, IMHO, irresponsible for me to say emphatically that it's normal discoloration.

Hope this helps.

Kristi
 
That sounds fair enough, Kristi. Thanks for the follow up and as always, standing behind your product.

Tom
 
mr.trooper said:
+ Fracking 1

i have seen this sort of discoloration on the blade tangs of dozens of folders of all diferent brands and blade steels. Its a non issue.

Even if it was rust, just clean it off! Rusty knives still sharpen up, and they still cut just as well as they did before. Im not trying to be a pain in the butt, but if you want your knives to stay "pristiene" then you should lock them in a climate controlled display case and never touch, use, or carry them.

If you use your knives, even lightly, they WILL eventualy start to whare. eventualy you will drop it and put a knick in or dent the scales, you will slip while sharpening it and put a scratch on in the mirror polished blade, or the finish will start to whare off from rubbing aginst your wallet / cell phone all day. It is a natural part of life, and to be EXPECTED.
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Did you read the rest of this thread? I pretty much said what you did. However, that was after I realized this wasn't a serious problem. Until I made this post, I wasn't sure that this WAS just a cosmetic anomoly. Now I know it's not going to spread or degrade the knife function, I feel it's liveable. Would I rather not have the redness? of course. Do I think this thread was valid? of course (as stated, I didn't know what the redness was, and it had me freaked).

Also, before opining, please refer to a subesquent post by the person you quoted (or read the rest of the thread):

J85909266 said:
In regards to Trihonda, I apologize for the outburst. It really had nothing to do with you. I've just become, personally, sick of the amount of scrutiny and complaining fine production companies seem to be getting as of late over completely minor aesthetic details and machining imperfections on knives that aren't even hand finished. What set me off was SirGalant's attack on my original post that merely stated that this kind of thing would not bother me. I understand that you were just curious and wanted to know more about it. I apologize for getting you caught in the crossfire.
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Taz, THANK YOU! Knowing this is likely a normal byproduct of the manf. process makes me feel much better. If you say the red is common, then that's good enough for me. No need to send it in. I'd suggest a little more education (by spyderco) to let consumers know about this normal coloration due to the laser cutting (or whatever), so they don't get worried, like I was.
 
Try taking the clip off and putting it into one of the other carry option positions. First two screws when in perfectly and the third (centre screw) snapped in half (under minimal pressure), leaving half the thread still in the hole at the same time as chipping off a small piece of g10 from the hole. What can you do? Not much. Still my favourite folder.
 
I own a few Spydercos and have gifted a few (function inspected prior to giving away) and never seen the phenomena.

What is it? Gasified metal oxidizing then precipitating?
 
Trihonda- Does the AmsOil MP you use contain boron? Two years or so ago i began using a boron-based product called Lubrisilk - it was the culmination of my 5-year search for the ultimate metal boundary lubricant, and the stuff is like the holy grail of metal lubricants. HOWEVER, the only side-effect i have noticed is that on some metals i find a reddish precipitate develops over time - i'm sure it's not rust, and it has caused no problems whatsoever - but the first time i saw it on the slide of my Heckler & Koch .45 i almost had a heart attack. I kept using it and all of my knives and guns slip and slide like they are on roller-bearings - and some also exhibit a funny red grease. I'd be interested to learn if boron is the cause, and what the heck that funny red stuff is! Thanks,
HK
 
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