Help need some input on sheaths

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A friend of mine who does excellent leather sheath work and is one of the first guy's that I know of to incorperate rare earth magnets besides Bud Neally who does his in kydex is working on a new design of sheath that will combine the best virtues of leather and kydex wants to start doing sheath work for the Busse crowd. I have used his leather scout style sheaths for many years and his craftsmanship is bullet proof and of the highest order. He specializes in true hard use sheaths and knows his craft. He wants to buy some Busse's to have on hand so people do not have to send there knives in and to fasilitate a quicker order. Well my question is what knives should he buy what do you guy's think are the most popular carried and used models. I suggested he start with the new outlaw and I am going to suggest he starts with mine. A scout style (horizontal carry) sheath would be great on that knife along with one for an HR.. He also does vertical and this model I do believe will work both ways.So again what models and do you think and what handle styles Mag or handsanded etc. should he start with. I told him you guy's where a great group so please spit out your suggestions and don't make me look bad. Thanks
 
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Hey brother, that sounds awesome. I think he should start with the HOG SFNOLE. Lots of guys will get theirs in the next couple weeks, and they may want specially nice sheaths for them. And no ones gonna want to send theirs in, lol.

After that, I would say pick up a flat grind SFNO. I'm biased like that.
 
I'm looking for a scout style sheath for my NMSFNO. Send me his email or web page and maybe he can make mine while he has yours or vice versa. I think he should buy 1 of every new Busse from now on because that will be his best opportunity for a lot of sheathless INFI.
 
I second the NMSFNO and HODD SFNO LE I also think there are alot of ASH 1s out there that need sheaths! Thats good for starters!;)
 
No Offense, & I do not know your friend,

but our own Leatherman has been doing kydex & leather fusion sheaths for lots of years & I know that he has used the rare earth magnets as well.

One other thing & I hope I am not out of line in speaking for him.

He also does sheath making as a full time gig, in other words it is not a hobby or something to save a few bucks so he can buy knives, he feeds his family with his business. He also buys a bunch of Busse's to make sheaths with so that you do not have to send the knife in. But one of the biggest things is he also buys the knives because he loves the Busse knives & friends he has made here.

Something to think about when making a sheath purchase, maybe just maybe support our own Hogs, & those who make their living serving you. :D
 
Hey David this guy is a fulltime sheath maker and anyone that gets interested in Busse has the right to. What if when you got interested in doing sheaths for busse's someone said no offense but we don't want you around. You made an uncool post you could have come on and said hey my top selling sheaths are so and so good luck but you did not. I buy alot of sheaths from alot of different people in fact I have bought from you. If he can make a good prouduct than I am interested and I think alot of other people might be also.
 
If your friend makes sheaths to order, there are so many Busse variations out there you need to either have people send theirs to you to make the sheaths, or get addicted so you've got the knives on hand! I chose the latter route! :thumbup:

If your friend is looking to churn out a bunch of sheaths of the same design at a time, then maybe he can borrow someone's knife, or buy just one, then make a ton of sheaths and put them up on the exchange here at BF.

I'm sure it's always a safe bet to make sheaths for the knife currently on sale at Busse or BCS. Or else look at what's selling on the exchange and go for those.
 
Thanks Mikemoto he is not worried about buying them he is just curious with what are the most popular models. Thank you sir you are a gentleman.
 
In the last year I made more ASH1 sheaths than any other. They were for all different thicknesses, though, and different handle sizes. The Game Warden in its many flavors was the second most popular for me. Third and fourth were the Fusion line of Battle Mistresses, and the SFNO.
 
In the last year I made more ASH1 sheaths than any other. They were for all different thicknesses, though, and different handle sizes. The Game Warden in its many flavors was the second most popular for me. Third and fourth were the Fusion line of Battle Mistresses, and the SFNO.

Thank you very cool of ya:thumbup:
 
I was going to say the same thing as Mike in that from being on the exchange alot I think taht his best bet is the ASH1 w/mags, game warden, Active Duty, FBM w/mags and maybe a NMFBM because there were alot of them sold also. Another big seller I see alot is the Sarsquatch.

As far as the fellow your talking about I think its great to have a variety. Everyone is different and does things differently. It will be nice to have another quality sheathmaker in the mix and I hope his last name is the opposite of short because I have some of his work and it is top notch but if its not him then thats cool too.
 
Doby it is not Paul he way to busy doing what he does. And it is no secret who it is he goes by RAWHIDE Leather and has been a sheath maker for a very long time years ago he built a dog collar for me out of cape buffalo and bridle leather all hand sewn. Where talking for a dog with a big neck. The collar is two ply and 2 inches wide all handsewn. Needless to say I could pull my duelie out of a ditch with it.
 
Hey David this guy is a fulltime sheath maker and anyone that gets interested in Busse has the right to. What if when you got interested in doing sheaths for busse's someone said no offense but we don't want you around. You made an uncool post you could have come on and said hey my top selling sheaths are so and so good luck but you did not. I buy alot of sheaths from alot of different people in fact I have bought from you. If he can make a good prouduct than I am interested and I think alot of other people might be also.

Hey JP, I agree that David's post came across as a bit harsh. I think it's awesome for us that a new sheathmaker is getting interested in Busse knives. I, for one, like to experience different products, and everyone makes a slightly different kind of sheath. Although there is variation, like Mike said, there's plenty of room to make sheaths for the most common configurations.

One thing I've been wanting to see from sheathmakers, but haven't yet, is that when a new model comes out (or when he gets a new knife he can make sheaths for, even if its an old model), that the sheathmaker let us know they have a new mold, and offer a few different configurations of a sheath for that knife. People like options. I've seen some sheathmakers post that they have 20 in a particular config, or that they can make some in a particular kind of style, but rarely have I seen "I have this new knife in this config and these are three kinds of sheaths I can make for it with 5 different options per sheath. That would give each person some room for customization, while still allowing for some continuity of work and materials for the maker. If you take it a level further, and offer a variety of embossed designs/logos, that personalizes sheaths even more.

In fact, I would love to see our current sheathmakers post a list of all the knives or molds they currently have and can make sheaths for, as well as the range of options recommended for each style.

I know that someone can always find a sheathmakers website (in some cases it's hard!), and try to determine what options they like, then email the maker to see if they have a mold for their knife, but it's so much easier when the maker posts here and provides info up front. Sometimes, I don't want to email 5 different sheathmakers to find out who has a mold for a particular config I just bought. Also, it's nice if there is a discount for current models, if the sheathmaker is making volume orders. Let's say a custom sheath by a current maker is usually $85. It would be nice to see them post "Hey, I have a HOG SFNO and I'd like to make at least a few sheaths in each of these three styles for a one time price of $65 per sheath. You can choose from three options per each design, and from 10 different embossed patterns to customize your sheath."

Something like that would be a service and a convenience to those of us who buy knives, and don't always do the work to hunt down a sheathmaker with a mold, then understand the options available.

For example, I really like Mike's work, but looking at all the sheaths on his site, the options seem endless and overwhelming sometimes. So the last time I emailed him I just asked him to recommend the best kind of sheath for the model. I like being presented with options I can choose from though, as it makes thinking about it and ordering a sheath easier. Also, then I know I don't need to send my knife in up front, without any extra effort on my part to contact makers.

I look forward to seeing your friend's work. If he's an internet type of guy, you might encourage him to log on, get an account, and say "hi" to all the folks here. Introducing himself, and building a rapport with the Busse fan base, would certainly help business, and good will. ;)
 
I agree with all your points and this is what he is looking for good input. Thanks again
 
Hey David this guy is a fulltime sheath maker and anyone that gets interested in Busse has the right to. What if when you got interested in doing sheaths for busse's someone said no offense but we don't want you around. You made an uncool post you could have come on and said hey my top selling sheaths are so and so good luck but you did not. I buy alot of sheaths from alot of different people in fact I have bought from you. If he can make a good prouduct than I am interested and I think alot of other people might be also.

+1 !!

I recently caught the INFI bug and am a part-time sheath maker. I was really offended too. I have a family that I support with a day job that doesn't pay all that well and I like to make sheaths. For me it is a much needed creative outlet and I would really like to be able to help supplement my regular income with some sheath work, if nothing else to at least allow me to enjoy knives and not incur further debt to do so. What wrong with that?
From where I see it, being a HOG is an privilege and badge of honour among friends. I didn't think it was an old boys club that looks down upon aspiring members.

...One thing I've been wanting to see from sheathmakers, but haven't yet, is that when a new model comes out (or when he gets a new knife he can make sheaths for, even if its an old model), that the sheathmaker let us know they have a new mold, and offer a few different configurations of a sheath for that knife. People like options. I've seen some sheathmakers post that they have 20 in a particular config, or that they can make some in a particular kind of style, but rarely have I seen "I have this new knife in this config and these are three kinds of sheaths I can make for it with 5 different options per sheath. That would give each person some room for customization, while still allowing for some continuity of work and materials for the maker. If you take it a level further, and offer a variety of embossed designs/logos, that personalizes sheaths even more....

I see what you're asking here but personally it's tough to come up with even one really original design. I think that's why there are so many sheath makers because each one finds a "voice" and explores it. 3 designs with 5 variations.... That's 15 different sheaths to come up with.. Not all options work on each sheath too so that's even more. I see what you're saying but it seems a lot to ask.
 
I see what you're asking here but personally it's tough to come up with even one really original design. I think that's why there are so many sheath makers because each one finds a "voice" and explores it. 3 designs with 5 variations.... That's 15 different sheaths to come up with.. Not all options work on each sheath too so that's even more. I see what you're saying but it seems a lot to ask.

I hear you, but here's what I mean. Sheathmaker #1 regularly makes a pouch-type sheath, a crossover-snap type sheath, and a wrap-around the handle snap type sheath. When a new knife comes out, he posts pictures of the three kinds and says "I'd like to make at least a few of each, and if I get at least ten orders total I can provide a discount of $X." Each sheath type has a few different options. With the wrap-around, one can specify how high the wrap goes on the handle. Sometimes, its how high the sheath will ride on the belt. With the pouch sheath, a couple different tooling patterns can be offered for the border. This is not so complicated, and because the maker makes these kinds of sheaths regularly, he gets a bulk order with not much added aggravation. Just needs to keep track of which options for each sheath ordered. It also helps us to be presented with clear options, but still be able to customize to our taste.

Just my two cents
 
Ah. I see what you mean. As a written list of options as if one were writing an ad or for sale post it makes more sense. I misinterpreted the depth of the variations and customizing you were suggesting.
Thanks for clarifying. Makers offer these variations anyway and it is a good idea to itemize them beforehand so that the buyer's idea can be both more easily chosen but it would also make the initial work of the maker easier as there would be fewer PM's and emails hammering out details. That could translate into cheaper sheaths too I guess.
Still there would always be room for the pure custom work..
 
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