help on motivation?

Dave, sometimes perceptions are more important than facts. The fact that you leave early and that they cannot see you working during the day contributes to a perception that you are lazy. You may not be able to work during the day in which case you should find a night job. Procrastination is not ever seen as a desirable characteristic. Sorry but I've been there and didn't play politics good enough to pull it off.

If the harassment is severe, you may have a case to take to management. Just be sure that you can back up your overtime claims and work ethic. If management doesn't do anything think about a harassment suit.
 
Just read Esav post. He gave some great advice but don't automatically assume that you are severely depressed. Some people are just procrastinators. A trip to a Shrink or family counselor may be in line, talk to a doctor and see what he/she has to say.. If you are diagnosed as depressed make sure that it is documented, then if it gets to be too much all you have to do is call your counselor and take off on a sick leave. Meds like prozac may help too but they take a while to take effect. Take care and be careful.
 
I've changed jobs with the hope that things that had gone wrong in the old job would be suddenly fixed in the new one. Sometimes it worked out that way. More often, my bad habits would simply carry over into the new situation and I would find myself back in the same boat again. A change of environment may not be productive without a change from within first. Good luck.

Eric
 
Dave, what I'm going to say here is not intended as a put-down or to hurt your feelings in any way at all, but I think you need more help than any of us here is likely to be able to provide, even if we wrote several paragraphs.

I believe you need some professional counseling, and the sooner the better. There are occupational counselors and there are psychological counselors. I think you need to discuss your problems with both types. If money is part of your problem, I'll bet there are some free services of this type available to you if you can make enough phone calls to track them down.

Our personalities are shaped most often and most strongly by those who raised us. In your case I think you will have to mold yourself a new personality as best you can, and hopefully with the help of some good professionals. Good luck to you.
 
Dont take that sh*t man... Show them who's boss... Jab jab cross jab hook :thumbup: ;)
 
80-90 hour weeks should qualify for overtime pay since you aren't in management, if you can document that. This is Federal law I'm talking about not state btw................

Something to think about.

Syn
 
I can't disagree with Grime.

Dad taught me the best way to deal with bullies is a good old fashioned beat-down.
 
Thanks guys!

You've given me alot of info to digest.

Thanks, it is so greatly appreciated.
 
synthesist said:
80-90 hour weeks should qualify for overtime pay since you aren't in management, if you can document that. This is Federal law I'm talking about not state btw................

Something to think about.

Syn
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In case you didn't notice, he's Canadian. US labor laws don't apply.:D
 
Grime said:
Doing martial arts might help to strengthen your character.
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I'd agree with that. And add that so would yoga or weight lifting or whatever? I think physical disciplines help strenghten the mind, and shed off unnecessary stress.
 
Depending on your definition of being "bullied", and what ethics standards are in place at your job, you may want to let your human resources folks know that you are being subjected to a hostile work environment. Document, document, document all instances of abusive behavior. Whent the time is right and you have the documentation to back your move, file a complaint and get all your adversaries fired or demoted. That's how to hurt 'em legally.
 
by huge coincidence i happen to be taking a management course and today's lecture was all about motivation. honestly, i personally thought about 75% of it was crap but i did draw some things. If you have to wait till the last minute, you are not happy with your work. i often do the same thing. i either do my work immediately, in one shot, without breaks if i can make it or i wait and do it when i should be asleep the night before deadline. the attitude is to get it over with or let it wait. i do, however, always get the job done. i'm assuming the same is true for you. people will see things their way, and anything otherwise is wrong. that's just something you'll have to get around or deal with. without more detail, which you certainly don't have to share, i'll advise you to either:

1: endure and just wait for your antagonists to die or somehow get rid of you

2: change and see if they treat you differently. After i started lifting, back in college, life did seem to get a lot easier.

3: leave, but only after you assess your ideal life, not just job. what, where, who, and why. if you're gonna rebuild, it might as well be somethin great. make sure it's an attainable goal. don't let fulfillment be just beyond your reach the rest of your life, that's torment worse than knowing things can't get any worse.

God bless.
 
tyr_shadowblade said:
If things aren't better after 1 month, burn the building down. :D
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This last line reminds me of that old Mike Judge cartoon with the soft spoken employee who's always complaining about being disrespected at his job and always gets cut off when trying to stick up for himself. Inevitably, he swears to the viewer that he will set the building on fire if conditions don't improve for him.
 
I'm very lazy. I generally do all of my work before it's due so I can kick back and generally bum around while others have to burn overtime to catch up.

I like being lazy.
 
C.S. Graves said:
This last line reminds me of that old Mike Judge cartoon with the soft spoken employee who's always complaining about being disrespected at his job and always gets cut off when trying to stick up for himself. Inevitably, he swears to the viewer that he will set the building on fire if conditions don't improve for him.
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Yup. Started out as crude animated shorts on MTV's "Liquid Television" during the early 90s -- then they made a live action feature film based on said shorts ("Office Space").

They didn't steal yer stapler, or relocate yer desk to the broom closet, did they? :eek:
 
Dave

IMVHO .. somehow you have to make a change to your self. Either you stay on the same job or you move to another job .. You have no other alternative but to implement the necessary change to your self. The ability to make necessary changes for the sake of survival is the law of survival itself.

Being late starter is not the real problem. Being prefering to ask question rather than make research is also not the real problem. Fleeing from hardship rather than face it head on is also not the real problem. Those are actually the manifestation of the real problem which you have to identify by making a thorough study on your own real self.

First you have to study your own life, your own behaviour and your own mind set so that you could identify your weakness and your strength. Maybe you need to consult practitioner for some counselling.

You must have desire to implement the change in your own self. Now you face that problem in office. The same problem might hapend to you in your neighborhood. The same problem also might happend to you in your family the moment you get married. It will make life more difficult and unbearable. So now you have to invoke a desire to change for the sake of all.

Then you have to design plan and strategy to implement the change because basically people doesn't like to change. And one other thing is to check your ability to carry out the changes required. Normaly people just couldn't change overnight. It has to be implemented in phases using workable approaches.

And you need support from somebody that you could trust .. maybe a member of family or a friend .. maybe a counsellor. This person is important so that he/she can evaluate the status of changes implemented.

Just my 2 cents .. hope could give some tips that help.
 
Dave Hahn said:
Person B: First instinct and immediate action is to ask for guidence, help, ask another for the answer.

I am person B.

Granted, I could find a new job, but this subject is more along the lines of how do I learn to look to myself for answers? How does one develop self-determination?
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I had a big post with advice and then re-read it... I totally read your post wrong. Sooo, what I said was pretty non-applicable :rolleyes:

BUT... you do have to watch working the hours you are or you'll risk occupational burn-out. If that happens, things can go downhill very fast (speaking from experience). It will suck the life force out of you. No job is worth it... you have to be happy in your work.

Okay.. that's my .02 worth. That and $3.50 will get you a cup of coffee (remember when you could say .25 would get you a cup??).

Seriously, watch out for burnout. It ties in with the whole depression issue. If not now, then later. You can only keep that pace up for a little while.

Take care

Alan
 
Sounds like lack of personal discipline and self confidence. Two afore mentioned suggestions. Counseling might help. Be careful there are a lot of quacks out there. The martial arts suggestion is one I would pursue immediately. It will give you self confidence and teach you discipline of the mind and the body. A good martial arts instructor is also a mentor and will encourage you and be there to talk to you. My peronsal suggestions would be ninjitsu, kuntao, muay thai or even if you have a good MMA gym nearby.You have to go to class though!. Sit down and make yourself a list of what you want to accomplish and schedule yourself the time to accomplish them. We all need structure of some kind in our lives. You are the only one who can make it better. Just do it!
Terry
 
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