Here come the chinese!!!

BG42EDGE

BG42EDGE

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Note: Just in case the unwary might not notice.....this is a seller with no feedback and from China (so bidding on this would be a bad idea).

Although this is an active auction, I've been assured by mods that it's ok to post pertinent active auctions for discussion--and this one seems to require some discussion.

This knife looks like an exact copy of a Buck 110 (although the heading carefully states "Buck 110 Classic Style").

This is the first time I've seen one of these on e-Bay. Anybody else?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270608776675&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

:eek:

Main question: does such a knife really exist as manufactured in China? And if so, can Buck stop them?
 
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The knife that is pictured has a U.S tang stamp, but no mention of it in the description. Unless I've missed something, 110's don't use the kind of steel that is listed in the description. Not sure if Buck uses that steel on anything they make... :confused:

I wouldn't touch that auction with a ten foot pole
 
The Chinese market has been delivering better quality so I don´t think it would be bad, it's just that this knife is most likely a copy and therefore it would be wrong to buy it.
You never know if he will actually send it to you, but that's not the issue. I think he would deliver a reasonable Chinese copy.
 
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Yes, a non-Buck steel is clearly mentioned in the description.

Joe Houser......has Buck obtained one of these or do they have knowledge of this seemingly perfect copy?

Or......is the guy using a picture of a Buck knife in his Auction???

Somehow......the slabs look just a little different.....the rest seems identical right down to the 2009 stamp.

:eek:
 
Had to pull out my 110 to find the differences. The stamp doesn't seem to be genuine at all (the font size doesn't fit, especially with the USA lettering). The blade heel angle is wrong and the distances between the rivets are different.
 
GFL......I think you're talking about the ricasso and the kick angles--and the really interesting thing is that these resemble the kick configuration of the Pre-81 440C blades.

As far as the stamp goes.....slight differences in size, but very slight.

I can't see any difference in the distances between rivets, that may just be my old eyes. Can you be specific?

I'm most intrigued by the kick similarity to Pre-81 kicks.

Maybe just a coincidence.
 
ItsTooEarly said:
He has 3 of them on ebay... I like the slabs... :eek:
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He has ten knives (three 110s) on now and has a bid on one "Cold Steel" (which I assume is probably a fake) but no bids on the other nine.

You're right.....the "110" slabs are classy.

:eek:
 
For $48 dollars you might as well buy a real Buck. I see no one bid on it. The shipping is a real kicker.
 
BG42EDGE said:
He has ten knives (three 110s) on now and has a bid on one "Cold Steel" (which I assume is probably a fake) but no bids on the other nine.

You're right.....the "110" slabs are classy.

:eek:
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BG, I was only talking about the 110s, 3 of them... :D
 
Well, it seems that now there are Buck 110s and then there are Buck 110s and then there are Buck 110s.....so who knows what anybody's talking about?

:D

And, of course, therein lies the inevitable and looming problem.

I predict that Limited Editions will be turning up on e-Bay.....and 1 of 200s will have 2000 brothers and sisters from China that are virtually identical to the originals.

All of which, of course, will make things all that much more fun for the collector.

;)
 
Maybe you can give us a review on a fake 110?

:)

Gotta give them credit for looking good.

How good is the 7Cr17MoV?

What's the reputation of their heat treat?
 
BG42EDGE said:
Maybe you can give us a review on a fake 110?

:)

Gotta give them credit for looking good.

How good is the 7Cr17MoV?

What's the reputation of their heat treat?
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hehe, this is a piece of ***.:thumbdn:
i never believe the quality of fake. they just fake appearance.
for a fake, there is no reason to believe that any part is real, includes all the details and descriptions. so i do not believe it was made from 7Cr17MoV......even any qualified steel, .....just scrap steel slag.:thumbdn:

heat treat? hehe , i heard they never heating treat on faking. at least they seldom mention the heat treatment of materials.
 
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BG42EDGE said:
Maybe you can give us a review on a fake 110?

:)

Gotta give them credit for looking good.

How good is the 7Cr17MoV?

What's the reputation of their heat treat?
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7Cr17MoV is pretty much Chinese 440A. Gerber and CRKT use it in the Chinese produced knives they have, maybe the same manufacturer makes this knife?
 
samhain73 said:
7Cr17MoV is pretty much Chinese 440A. Gerber and CRKT use it in the Chinese produced knives they have, maybe the same manufacturer makes this knife?
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it is unnecessary to discuss its performance, fake means that everything is fake. maybe they can say these are made from S30V. then raise the price to $100.........:mad:

sometimes in origin, redundant products inside the legal order will be sell privately, those are qualified products , or maybe with factory blemish, but not a fake. this is very confusing, due to the authorized factory manage imprecisely.
even so. i think the uthorized factory was authorized pass the strict censorship. i believe they will keep credit for authorizer. absolutely not illegal production or fake.

so, all of fake, are made by underground maker.

as a buyer, to refuse the fake , i can only purchase from legal agent through legal channels. for secondhand, i have to rely on own ability to discern.:)
 
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