Here Comes A Soon To Be VERY Limited Run (Only 150) Of The Mountain Meaner Street on June 26, 2022 at 9:00pm Eastern!

Father & Son Traditional Sharpening said:
Does the Meaner Street fit the Radioactive Duty sheaths in your experience?
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David might be able to chime in. But my RAD fits but it a bit tight


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TENTEX said:
I think the Mountan Duty and Meaner are pretty damn close
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close only counts in...............................horseshoes and Hand Grenades :)

so close-ish ? in a loose leather sheath maybe

Drop point (Mountain Active Duty) vs straight Back (Meaner Mountain Street

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The bruiser in my photo is the new Mountain Meaner in my RAD sheath. I’m willing to bet the Mountain Duty and Mountain Meaner fit pretty damn near perfect. I just haven’t acquired one of your Mountain Duty’s just yet
 
David Brown said:
close only counts in...............................horseshoes and Hand Grenades :)

so close-ish ? in a loose leather sheath maybe

Drop point (Mountain Active Duty) vs straight Back (Meaner Mountain Street

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Funny you mention leather.
I have a leather sheath from Armoralleather for an older Meaner that will, with a bit more snugness, take a regular RAD nicely. I believe a MAD would be pushing it too far though lol,
& would def never try cramming a RAD/MAD into a kydex Meaner sheath 😳🙂
 
JACKMANDU said:
Close but no cigar.
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And yet you'd be lucky to even find one of the originals at this point. What specific features or differences are you noting that seem to lacking in your opinion?


David Brown said:
close only counts in...............................horseshoes and Hand Grenades :)

so close-ish ? in a loose leather sheath maybe

Drop point (Mountain Active Duty) vs straight Back (Meaner Mountain Street

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Dave, while I respect your opinion and would agree that would GENERALLY be the case in most instances.... it is not entirely factual in my direct experience in recent months/years.

The Scrap Yard WS-1020 seems to be the starting point or 'blank', if you will, for many of the other WS-XXX series when they were designed. It's pretty much a straight spine with a heavy and deep belly so you can ultimately make any other blade shape from it that you like, even a wharncliffe. The same appears to be true of the DB-321 being a starting point for the rest of the large Res-c SYKCO blades currently, you can literally fit each knife they've released in that footprint.

I know for a fact that the WS-621, WS-221 & WS-1121 that I currently have or have owned will all fit into the WS-1020 kydex I have from Mashed Cat. Using your logic none of them should fit at all because...... different blade shapes... right?

Now, do they fit well enough that I'd recommend using them this way? Not entirely, unfortunately, yet the WS-221 has literally zero play or slop. I have actually carried this knife in this way as it's got the same spine height far enough down the blade to fit perfectly.

In fact, for this knife carried IWB with either Discreet Carry Concepts Clip or IWB Biothane Rubber PTD loop I find that configuration ideal as it gives more height to the sheath below the belt to stabilize and prevent the knife rolling out from the belt line. I would actually order that WS-1020 sheath for the WS-221 rather than getting an ideally sized WS-221 like you and others sell for this reason, that is, UNLESS I wanted to pocket carry where the extra length can. be a hindrance.

This is actually a common practice among many holster smith's out there producing Appendix Inside The Waistband holsters and the like because it's very noticeable difference to many people, as you have a lot of weight above the belt in the pistol's frame or grip and very little below the belt to counterbalance. So adding a longer length to the holster despite being technically unnecessary can increase both comfort and concealment.

I say all this to mean that it's very difficult to give blanket statements and NOT end up being completely off base in some instances. If you do not have DIRECT experience with the actual knife and sheath in question it would generally be a good practice to not speculate on these things. I asked TENTEX because I knew had actually had the knives in question along wtth one of your RAD sheaths because I'd seen them here before.
 
Father & Son Traditional Sharpening said:
And yet you'd be lucky to even find one of the originals at this point. What specific features or differences are you noting that seem to lacking in your opinion?




Dave, while I respect your opinion and would agree that would GENERALLY be the case in most instances.... it is not entirely factual in my direct experience in recent months/years.

The Scrap Yard WS-1020 seems to be the starting point or 'blank', if you will, for many of the other WS-XXX series when they were designed. It's pretty much a straight spine with a heavy and deep belly so you can ultimately make any other blade shape from it that you like, even a wharncliffe. The same appears to be true of the DB-321 being a starting point for the rest of the large Res-c SYKCO blades currently, you can literally fit each knife they've released in that footprint.

I know for a fact that the WS-621, WS-221 & WS-1121 that I currently have or have owned will all fit into the WS-1020 kydex I have from Mashed Cat. Using your logic none of them should fit at all because...... different blade shapes... right?

Now, do they fit well enough that I'd recommend using them this way? Not entirely, unfortunately, yet the WS-221 has literally zero play or slop. I have actually carried this knife in this way as it's got the same spine height far enough down the blade to fit perfectly.

In fact, for this knife carried IWB with either Discreet Carry Concepts Clip or IWB Biothane Rubber PTD loop I find that configuration ideal as it gives more height to the sheath below the belt to stabilize and prevent the knife rolling out from the belt line. I would actually order that WS-1020 sheath for the WS-221 rather than getting an ideally sized WS-221 like you and others sell for this reason, that is, UNLESS I wanted to pocket carry where the extra length can. be a hindrance.

This is actually a common practice among many holster smith's out there producing Appendix Inside The Waistband holsters and the like because it's very noticeable difference to many people, as you have a lot of weight above the belt in the pistol's frame or grip and very little below the belt to counterbalance. So adding a longer length to the holster despite being technically unnecessary can increase both comfort and concealment.

I say all this to mean that it's very difficult to give blanket statements and NOT end up being completely off base in some instances. If you do not have DIRECT experience with the actual knife and sheath in question it would generally be a good practice to not speculate on these things. I asked TENTEX because I knew had actually had the knives in question along wtth one of your RAD sheaths because I'd seen them here before.
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My mistake to have made an educated guess based on the past models of Meaner Street and Active Duty (which I still own and have in my possession) on this exact blade before my actual knife gets here .

I will wait until my Mountain Meaner Streets gets here to make any further comments on this subject relating to this exact blade.

Have a great Sunday, I know I will :)
 
David Brown said:
My mistake to have made an educated guess based on the past models of Meaner Street and Active Duty (which I still own and have in my possession) on this exact blade before my actual knife gets here .

I will wait until my Mountain Meaner Streets gets here to make any further comments on this subject relating to this exact blade.

Have a great Sunday, I know I will :)
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There's no harm in educated guess, as long as you're upfront that it's just a best guess.

I made an educated guess before asking TENTEX the question and my guess was that it was very close but maybe a touch off, looks like that's a case of what we have here. Can make it work but probably not ideal.



We get right sometimes when we think we know something but the problem I took with your comment was there was no qualification that it was an educated guess and came off very matter of factly when I read it. In the words of Cliff Stamp.... "I don't use the word 'know' lightly."

I understand this sort of thing is extremely common at Bladeforums, so I'm not entirely surprised as people having strong opinions on things they have little to no experience with. I've done plenty of it myself over the years here and will not even try to deny it so I'm not just trying to be a jerk at all.

The problem I have with it personally is I've spent a great deal of time at the late Cliff Stamp's forum (RIP) where he had held the (extremely small) community to very high standards when it comes to making claims of any kind without supporting them with detailed explanations and/or data. I can't tell you how many times I have read there "This is not the place for that sort of thing, there are plenty of other forums where you would be welcome to present your views".



Thank you for thinking of me, as always! It is the beginning of another week of my life, I'm thrilled... :)
 
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Father & Son Traditional Sharpening said:
And yet you'd be lucky to even find one of the originals at this point. What specific features or differences are you noting that seem to lacking in your opinion?




Dave, while I respect your opinion and would agree that would GENERALLY be the case in most instances.... it is not entirely factual in my direct experience in recent months/years.

The Scrap Yard WS-1020 seems to be the starting point or 'blank', if you will, for many of the other WS-XXX series when they were designed. It's pretty much a straight spine with a heavy and deep belly so you can ultimately make any other blade shape from it that you like, even a wharncliffe. The same appears to be true of the DB-321 being a starting point for the rest of the large Res-c SYKCO blades currently, you can literally fit each knife they've released in that footprint.

I know for a fact that the WS-621, WS-221 & WS-1121 that I currently have or have owned will all fit into the WS-1020 kydex I have from Mashed Cat. Using your logic none of them should fit at all because...... different blade shapes... right?

Now, do they fit well enough that I'd recommend using them this way? Not entirely, unfortunately, yet the WS-221 has literally zero play or slop. I have actually carried this knife in this way as it's got the same spine height far enough down the blade to fit perfectly.

In fact, for this knife carried IWB with either Discreet Carry Concepts Clip or IWB Biothane Rubber PTD loop I find that configuration ideal as it gives more height to the sheath below the belt to stabilize and prevent the knife rolling out from the belt line. I would actually order that WS-1020 sheath for the WS-221 rather than getting an ideally sized WS-221 like you and others sell for this reason, that is, UNLESS I wanted to pocket carry where the extra length can. be a hindrance.

This is actually a common practice among many holster smith's out there producing Appendix Inside The Waistband holsters and the like because it's very noticeable difference to many people, as you have a lot of weight above the belt in the pistol's frame or grip and very little below the belt to counterbalance. So adding a longer length to the holster despite being technically unnecessary can increase both comfort and concealment.

I say all this to mean that it's very difficult to give blanket statements and NOT end up being completely off base in some instances. If you do not have DIRECT experience with the actual knife and sheath in question it would generally be a good practice to not speculate on these things. I asked TENTEX because I knew had actually had the knives in question along wtth one of your RAD sheaths because I'd seen them here before.
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Just look at a picture of both. I personally think the original is cooler. This new one just didn’t appeal to me.
 
The easiest Meaner to compare these to is the Military Overrun Meaner from 2007 or 2008. Both approx .19" thick, both same blade & OAL length, however, the MMr seems to have a little higher saber grind, & the handle slabs are slightly different, possibly a tad thicker? Also they have a less aggressive texture pattern, but a little more ergonomic, with a slightly scalloped handle between the tube fasteners as opposed to previous release Meaners handles being pretty much level from ricasso to pommel.
In shorter words, these could easily have been a box of 150 MO Meaner blanks found & used. Not saying they are, just saying Busse could easily turn a MO Meaner blank into this MMr. Only 150 has me personally thinking they found some hiding in the Compound 😉🤙
 
woo hoo the new ones are going to be thinner at .160 :)
 
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