Here comes the Thunder!

Feel free to shoot me a PM or Email "Sanchez" (I don't know your real name?). It sounds like I have personally offended you, that was not my intention. If so, I am sorry.

As far as spelling errors, I make no claim to perfection. So it won't really bother me if my imperfections are pointed out.

I am using the correlation between "Lightning Strike carbon Fiber" and this material, because it is the easiest way to describe it to someone. Just like I compare it to Burlap Mycarta.

I am happy to give anyone details on the MSDS hazards, all they have to do is ask.

I will not however give away my source, as a materials manufacturer and I assume distributor, I am sure you understand.

Best regards.
 
BenR.T. said:
Feel free to shoot me a PM or Email "Sanchez" (I don't know your real name?). It sounds like I have personally offended you, that was not my intention. If so, I am sorry.

I am using the correlation between "Lightning Strike carbon Fiber" and this material, because it is the easiest way to describe it to someone. Just like I compare it to Burlap Mycarta.

I am happy to give anyone details on the MSDS hazards, all they have to do is ask.

I will not however give away my source, as a materials manufacturer and I assume distributor, I am sure you understand.

Best regards.
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Ben,

"MD" is Matt Diskin....it wasn't that thinly veiled.

Matt's source was Boeing, he has all the LS material available....and am sure he would tell you how he got it if you asked. He even has experience with Kevlar tm.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Again, I am sorry for any offense this has caused. I was simply excited about introducing something new to our community. :(

Thanks Ray, I think so too. ;)
 
Ben
I want to assure you that no offense has been taken. Its all good. Calling out my shyte spelling now thats offensive.

I do like the new material, albeit poo colored. It will be exciting to see what the knife world makes out of it. Kind of reminds me of rattan deck chairs from a 1920's steamship.

There will be a hole to fill in the tactical market once the LSCF supply runs out. It is great to see products coming out that can fill this void that are not just pure immitations of the original LSCF.

Once again BRT we all good.
 
I'm really curious about the application this stuff was intended for, anyone know?

I drew up with a couple of knife patterns last night specifically for this material, I'd be happy to send it over to anyone who wants to try it out ;)
 
I do not know if this is accurate but I was told by a guy who deals in stuff like LSCF and other stuff that one big problem with Kevlar is that it is much more hygroscopic than some other laminate materials. IN plain English, that means it sucks up water. He said that he has to make sure that the Kevlar is COMPLETELY sealed off and then some with resin if he uses it. I would think that could be a problem considering how us knifemakers generally finish out or fail to completely seal/finish some of these laminates.
 
Sanchez said:
Ben
I want to assure you that no offense has been taken. Its all good. Calling out my shyte spelling now thats offensive.

I do like the new material, albeit poo colored. It will be exciting to see what the knife world makes out of it. Kind of reminds me of rattan deck chairs from a 1920's steamship.

There will be a hole to fill in the tactical market once the LSCF supply runs out. It is great to see products coming out that can fill this void that are not just pure immitations of the original LSCF.

Once again BRT we all good.
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There are other limited supplies of LSCF cloth out there. I'm not sure why new or even "expired" LSCF and plain CF pre-preg for that matter, shouldn't still be available as long as companies like Boeing, Lockheed-Martin, Northrop-Grumman, Airbus and others continue to make entire airplanes or big parts from carbon fiber composites. The difference might be that you will have to PAY those companies for their stuff that is beyonds its "sell by" date instead of getting some of it for free.
 
Sanchez said:
Calling out my shyte spelling now thats offensive.
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I called out your "shyte spelling" because you called out Ben's spelling and made a big deal about there be no "E" in "lightning," and then continued to make a big deal about it with your snarky "fourth grade" remark. Something about people who live in glass houses . . .
 
jdm61 said:
There are other limited supplies of LSCF cloth out there. I'm not sure why new or even "expired" LSCF and plain CF pre-preg for that matter, shouldn't still be available as long as companies like Boeing, Lockheed-Martin, Northrop-Grumman, Airbus and others continue to make entire airplanes or big parts from carbon fiber composites. The difference might be that you will have to PAY those companies for their stuff that is beyonds its "sell by" date instead of getting some of it for free.
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LSCF and plain pre-preg are quite different from eachother, Joe....the little bitty bronze wires in the weave and all...if you have a source for the material, you should move on it.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
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Glad to see there's discussion on both sides. So many times, it's all yada yada yada about being soooo wonderful,soooo nice, etc.

My two cents - it's ugly. If it were requested by a customer, sure, why not. But with such a split on the material's desirability (or lack thereof), I would question future re-sale value on knives made with it.
 
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I like it on Ryan Weeks's knife, but it doesn't do much for me on the others. It might have to do with the contouring of the material, or perhaps the lighting in the photograph--reminiscent of Westinghouse Micarta.

That said, I'm not big on phenolics in general. Green canvas, burgundy linen, and ivory Micarta are generally as far as I will go on a custom knife.
 
The slip joint made by J. Oeser is my knife. While I did not specify the handle material, I did leave the handle choice up to Jared. I am very pleased with how it turned out. You have to see it in person to appreciate it fully. If nothing else, it's not something everyone has seen before. It's a fitting handle material for a unique knife pattern. I guess everyone has their preferences. I personally do not like carbon fiber. Especially lightning strike carbon fiber. I also don't like stag. Call me crazy.
 
Hmmm, there is more polarizing of opinions of this material than I expected. Personally I find it really appealing. It grinds and shapes nicely, finishes smooth with fewer wire burrs than LSCF, and has an earthy natural look and feel to it that I think is really attractive. Dress it up with some liners that pop and you've got a great combination. I have exposed quite a few of my local customers and enthusiasts to it and the response was very positive....enough for me to boost my inventory of the material up a few more sheets.

To each their own. Personally, I'm extremely grateful to Ben and Chuck for making this stuff available in a couple of different thicknesses that are really useful to knife makers.

A few shots of my first knife with Thunderstorm Kevlar....







 
Thanks for sharing Jonny!
And thanks to everyone for the honest opinions, positive or otherwise.
I also don't feel it is for everyone, or every knife. But I think it will fit in nicely in certain knife categories.
That is what is so great about our knife community, there is a little bit of something for everyone! :D
 
betzner said:
Glad to see there's discussion on both sides. So many times, it's all yada yada yada about being soooo wonderful,soooo nice, etc.
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That is because the OP, unlike the vast majority of the FOGs here, actually had to balls to invite opinions in what he was posting up. If more people who posted their knives here invited the same, I am sure we would have a lot more similar discussions here on both sides.
 
YAWN...., the choice of material is sooo yesterday!




Instead go with innovative and cutting edge F1 technology like Nanocyl and aluminum honeycomb material like the home made scales on my Spyderco here.....









:D NAAAA, I'm just kidding; I like the look a lot;):D:p

I like both the color and also the rustic look/feel of the handle material.

But then I'm a huge fan of almost everything coyote/desert/khaki/earth brown etc. I like the utility look of the handles in the OP. Appeals to me a lot.

As evidenced by my two latest custom knives ('Hunter' by Rob Scheppmann and the 'Bushcraft' by my friend and knifemaker Lars) and the Suminagashi Mule below.




 
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