HEST #225 came in from RYP, #162 you're up for a beating

Open a beer with it and then slice some sharp cheddar and get a cracker. Then drink the beer and eat the cheese and cracker and be thankful you're not eating grubs and drinking polluted water. You need nutrition to survive.
 
I believe I would be happy having TWO HEST knives to use. If you tear one up by trying to baton concrete blocks or something like that what have you gained? So you know the knife will not successfully baton through a block? duh. I am reminded of the old Karate Kid movie where the kid asked the old man if he could chop a tree in half with his hand and the old man answered "Don't know, Never been attacked by a tree." In other words, what's the point? It is your knife to do with as you please but Robert will understand if you do something as common sense as keeping both knives to use. :)
 
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So HEST # 2 is a a crash test dummy. Send it to Nos. He knows how to professionally destroy a knife and he'll make a video of it ;)
 
Read my first post, it is not a crash test dummy. I won't batton through concrete. I may find nos's videos entertaining but i still don't feel like i need to find the breaking point. I offer people the chance to request what they would to know how the hest handles in some situations. I'm sorry Jeff but i don't want to break the knife, i just want to provide a "though" review of the hest because i don't know many people who are willing to prematurely wear out their 100$ knife to tell others how it handles, its pros and cons. Do you a feel a 4x4 should be reviewed on a highway only or would you like to know how it handles off-road? Well if you an off road review be prepared to put some dings on that shiny new paint.

You know what I don't know why people think I want to break that knife, i love it that would stupid and unconstructive of me, i want to share how it does in tough use not abuse.

I could just keep it and tell RYP that his proposition is idiotic and thanks for the free blade. But i personally think a though review (not a nos) with actual real use of the knife not in a lab might interest some people. But who am i to judge, i'm just a consumer who likes good things, i'm not even a knife nut!

I hope that sums it
 
My idea of reviewing a knife is testing it hard under the conditions that a knife is used for. Not under "lab" conditions. I would expect 4wd vehicles made for off-roading be tested as off-road vehicles. I would also think that consumers would want to test them somewhat in that capacity. I doubt consumers would want to test the new bumper on their car against a pole just becasue it's designed to protect the front end of the car, though. My point is, the HEST is a knife. It's not a pulley, it's not an axe, it's not a throwing device. It's a knife. Simple. I say test it for what 99 percent of knife chores will be in the wilds or anywhere else.
 
We understand ourselves, for me testing the HEST is like testing a plane you from stall to overspeed you stay within the flight enveloppe while approaching its limits. I won't do what i know will break it. A good review/test is the one that will it can be used in any chores a user would like to use it in and that it has good handling caracteristics and ease of maintenance, just like a plane.
 
What about finding Osama Bin Ladin,( afganistan /pakistan or there abouts) and cutting his Fu*k*ng heart out ?

Now that would be a knife test I would watch....
 
stripymccatpuss said:
What about finding Osama Bin Ladin,( afganistan /pakistan or there abouts) and cutting his Fu*k*ng heart out ?

Now that would be a knife test I would watch....
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No knife needed, just a good hand (indiana jones the temple of doom)
 
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I would say a great test of the blades abilities would be to use it for an entire year as your only blade.

And at the end of that year, use it to kill a rhino or hippo. Just get on it's back, ride it as long as you can and then slit it ear to ear.
 
Along those same lines, I agree. The only REAL way to test a knife is use it for a lot longer than a few days or weeks. Usually when I'm reviewing a knife for the magazines, I do my best to carry it for at least a month and only use it for all the tasks I use a knife for. It's amazing how much you find you like or dislike, or how well it works or doesn't work. Anyone can test a knife for a few hours, baton it through a piece of wood, cut a fuzz stick or slice webbing or rope (totally worn out "tests"), pry with it, beat it through wire, pull a car with it, etc. You really don't know anything after these tests. You have to carry and use it every day for a while to know what it's capable of. Someone suggested whittling a spoon. May sound lame, but a "survival" knife is most likely going to be used to build other tools in a survival situation. So, that's a real test, IMO. Everyone got pissed about Steve Dick's article on the RC-5 and thought it was sub-par that he used it for the simple tests he did. I loved it. It was real world stuff. Not some Ramboistic BS. That's what RAT Cutlery knives are all about!
 
Baton it through a piece of wood from the pommel like you would with an awl. Or maybe baton it just so like 1/4 inch of the tip is in, and try to pry the wood.

Edit: Maybe baton it into a tree and see if you can use it as a step to see if you can get up to a high branch.
 
Speaking of all of this, I just got this email:

"Hi, I just received a hest knife about a week ago and while using it to pry open a crate the pry bar tip broke off, about a half inch is missing. Can I send the knife in to be fixed or replaced?"

Not going to post the owners name, but we will be sending him a new knife. Point is, they will indeed break if used too hard. Not sure what all he put it through but they are not the ultimate knife or made of Kryptonite, no RAT Cutlery knives are. The simple law of physics will win out of too much stress is applied to anything.
 
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R.A.T. said:
Speaking of all of this, I just got this email:

"Hi, I just received a hest knife about a week ago and while using it to pry open a crate the pry bar tip broke off, about a half inch is missing. Can I send the knife in to be fixed or replaced?"

Not going to post the owners name, but we will be sending him a new knife. Point is, they will indeed break if used too hard. Not sure what all he put it through but they are not the ultimate knife or made of Kryptonite, no RAT Cutlery knives are. The simple law of physics will win out of too much stress is applied to anything.
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This was one of my fears when I first saw the design. "Oh crap, they called it a prybar!"

I doubt this will be the last one that gets replaced for the same thing.

Some people really think you can pry open doors with a hunk of steel no thicker than the average screwdriver thats heat treated.

It's a great design for light prying and the like but it's not really a heavy duty prybar.
 
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This was one of my fears when I first saw the design. "Oh crap, they called it a prybar!"

I doubt this will be the last one that gets replaced for the same thing.

Some people really think you can pry open doors with a hunk of steel no thicker than the average screwdriver thats heat treated.

It's a great design for light prying and the like but it's not really a heavy duty prybar.
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Maybe a name change to mini prybar might be better so it doesnt sound like it can do everything a full sized one can do.
 
My review will be on the long term of course, that is why I need ideas from people, because I'm going to use it more than a few outings, actually it will be used a lot and I think that testing all types of work a knife can do is first of all fun and interesting, my first HEST #162 has been in my pocket since mid august and it has already worked this summer, since some rivers and a lot of wood work, haven't battoned with it though. Winter is most part of the year here and that for me is one of the most important thing is how it handles is low temps, in very humid environment with sometimes lot of salt (the cars suffer a lot here) and especially how is to use it with big winter gloves.

So lets just say the review will be lots of little reviews over a big period of time, and filling that time means I need lots of interesting ideas for me to test.

I won't baton the prybar into a log to split it, it seems unuseful (unless you can prove me), plus the length of the pry bar doesn't give enough leverage so that it can transfer lots of force, I will be hurting my self before I could open that log.

The "baton it into a tree to use as a step ladder" is good for a kid, but a 300lbs 6ft3" like me might not be a wise choice.
 
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Along those same lines, I agree. The only REAL way to test a knife is use it for a lot longer than a few days or weeks. Usually when I'm reviewing a knife for the magazines, I do my best to carry it for at least a month and only use it for all the tasks I use a knife for. It's amazing how much you find you like or dislike, or how well it works or doesn't work. Anyone can test a knife for a few hours, baton it through a piece of wood, cut a fuzz stick or slice webbing or rope (totally worn out "tests"), pry with it, beat it through wire, pull a car with it, etc. You really don't know anything after these tests. You have to carry and use it every day for a while to know what it's capable of. Someone suggested whittling a spoon. May sound lame, but a "survival" knife is most likely going to be used to build other tools in a survival situation. So, that's a real test, IMO. Everyone got pissed about Steve Dick's article on the RC-5 and thought it was sub-par that he used it for the simple tests he did. I loved it. It was real world stuff. Not some Ramboistic BS. That's what RAT Cutlery knives are all about!
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I do a lot of knife reviews on various forums. While I can get some impression of a knife and find some things I like or don't like in just a short time, it takes time to really get to know a knife. The ones that I keep choosing over and over are the ones that work best. Which is why my old RAT-7 looks pretty beat up compared to my Chris Reeve GB. But then, I'm not a Green Beret anyway. :D
 
HD i like your reviews , they get to the heart of the subject as best you can for the time and number of blade you use sir. And i enjoy Noss' reviews too. and nutnfancy. they are all honest and on display with no reason to cover up any thing distasteful. thats what im looking for in reviews.

Cutting boxes up, Fuzz sticks, Food prep ,food gathering,Truck maintiance, carpentry marking,beer bottles,steak knife, using it for house maintiance. I dropped my multi tool i normaly carry to see what this thing could do. Im trying to get a camping trip set up so i can give it some more of a feild craft run. but im waiting on a mora to do the same with.

Thanks RC
rob

PS i woke up the other day being poked in the side..... i forgot to take it off lol... so yea i would say very good size and weight it definatly can dissappear on your belt once you get used to belt carry
 
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Just get a few cardboard boxes and start cutting them into strips and see how long the blade stays sharp. If you want to come to Ohio, I can arrange for a car window for you to smash.
 
I had a similar little chippy in the same spot as Mr. KTA upon arrival... But I didn't care. Don't be evil to that knife, you were fortunate to get two for the price of one.
 
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