Hey COPS!

If us Rental Cops count..

I've confiscated one knife while working security. It was in the purse of a repulsively titanic husband beating woman who was reaching for it while being restrained.

The knife was one of those nasty $3 Spydie knock off Harpy/ Merlins. An insult to most of use blade addicts, but it would hurt none the less.
 
Interesting.

You do mean a titanic husband, who was beating his wife, right? Not a husband-beating woman?

But who had the knife? It was in a "purse", so did the woman have the knife?
 
Archie,I'm not sure just what you mean by "confiscating" knives. To me confiscating means taking a knife away from someone because the knife is illegal or the individual is using or has used the knife in an criminal offense. Also may be threatening someone with the knife. In this situation, yes, I have confiscated several knives over the years. Now, if someone is arrested and a legal knife is removed from the person and is put into their property when they are booked in at the jail, to me this is not confiscation, because they get the knife back when they get out of jail.
 
thanks for the RE... and please let me clarify.

The topic I had in mind was actually taking a knife and putting it in an evidence room or whatever. Never to return to it's owner.

I put "COPS" in the sub. line to cover mosts folks who might find themselves in a position of taking a knife away from somebody. I think it would be interesting to see your aspect of this circumstance.

It seems that there are more and more places not allowing fixed blades... If it is illegal to carry a fixed blade in San Antonio, were you making a moral decision confiscating somebodies Loveless, or were you "doing your job." I don't care if it's a Dollar Store table knife ground razor sharp. WHY? WHY did you take it?

AND... Let us NOT forget there were many knives confiscated from CRKT a while back... said to be "Gravity Knives." It turns out the investigators slung their arms three times... when the knives opened slightly, and finally were declared "gravity knives."

Was it an obvious crime?

Or did you have to convince the person they were breaking the law and were losing their knife and getting a ticket.

So... How do you feel about your actions?

Lets hear a story...
 
Originally posted by AlphalphaPB
Interesting.

You do mean a titanic husband, who was beating his wife, right? Not a husband-beating woman?

But who had the knife? It was in a "purse", so did the woman have the knife?
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nope...I meant a repulsively titanic WOMAN (350 LBS if an ounce) kicking the sh!t outta her husband (125 LBS maybe) Woman was a handful...(and I'm by no means a small or weak fella) well..maybe weak minded..but that's beside the point...

Anyhoo, In my meager perceptions and observations, female on male assaults aren't as rare as many would believe.
 
Walt2 covered it pretty well, if a knife is confiscated due to arrest, they would still get it back if it was legal and not used in the crime. Unless San Antonio has a city ordinance, state law in Texas for a fixed blade is <=5.5 inches is legal carry( as long as not double edged). Like most jobs, you have to use some common sense as a lot of laws do have some shades of gray. The best bet is to carry a legal knife wherever you are and train like heck with it and still have a peace of mind. Don't know if this is the answer that you are looking for and for the most part, I agree that most gun/knife laws are doing no good to stop the criminals and you have to do what you feel is best to protect yourself.
 
San Antonio has an insane law forbidding locking knives, due to "gang violence". I'm not sure about their laws concerning fixed blades, if they're the same as Texas, then it's 5.5" max.
 
The 5.5 inches of blade length applies to all knives in Texas. I have seen people get in trouble over machetes, where they were carrying them in a vehicle and got arrested for another offense. For example if someone gets arrested for an offense involving intoxication, usually any illegal knife or unlawfully carrying a firearm automatically becomes another offense. Alcoholic beverages and weapons don't mix.
 
so far, so good...

here's a thought...

You pat someone down entering a baseball game, upon which, you discover a Microtec D/A LCC. Unless the guy is "Law Enforcement" or in the Military, he is illegally carrying this blade, right? What do you do?

If the answer is to confiscate it, then WHY? You as "Law Enforcement" are allowed to carry it. What makes you think that you are any more trained or less likely to abuse your right to carry this piece?

If the answer is to just say "nice knife" and let them pass, then WHY? Who do you trust and why? Who don't you trust and why?

Where is the point where morals overshadow law/personal achievement making this situation OK?

clarity. I don't think the law is the law is the law. They change all the time. On one hand, I don't carry or own any "illegal" knives, nor do I have the need or $$$. On the onther hand, IF for some reason I decided to purchase a Mini UDT, I'd like to think that I could bring it to the office to fumble with... or to the beach as a handy campanion. The point is that certain knives were not always illegal. They diddnt change, they just *became* illegal. In the mind of joe schmoe illegal=bad. This is plainly not the case. How can something be BAD simply due to its illegality ESPECIALLY when it was fine in the first place. A 6" blade is no more BAD that a 5.5", yet it could be confiscated and the owner taken to jail. WHY?
 
I hate to tell this one. I took a Halo III off a guy I arrested for DUI. I told him he wasn't getting the knife back because it's illegal and if he wanted to make a case of it I could charge him with carrying a concealed weapon. He said he wanted the knife destroyed instead of me keeping it..... I thought for a minute opened it placed the tip to the pavement stepped down and broke it in half.:eek: I wasn't going to keep it I would have turned it in as evidence but he asked and after all I there to SERVE the public:D



FLAME ON:p
 
Since autos and butterflys are illegal in my state, yes, many. Anything over 3.5 inches that is carried concealed is also illegal. I've confiscated a few for being over 3.5" but only when related to another crime/incident. Everything confiscated was turned in for evidence or destruction.
 
Will someone please explain to me why an auto is so illegal,to me its a complete joke.I would much rather have someone pull an auto on me than a 5.5 inch bowie or an 18 inch machete.Also why is it legal for me to carry my .40 cal sig ( I have my CCW)but I can not legally carry my MT Socom.Does this make any sense?
 
Thanks for the RE's!

OK... so you DID take knives. Now... justify taking someone else's property. Who were you serving? Who were you protecting?

clarity. This is no flame. Sheer interest. I deeply respect any answers/commments. We are all good people here.
 
Heya Raden,
I gotta admit, the thought of a MT Halo broken in half makes me wanna cry, but in reality, it sounds like you gave the guy as much of a break as you could. Afterall, he was already in deep sh!t for the DWI, and there's no way he coulda gotten the HALO back in court, all it would have done if turned into evidence was cost him more money at least. Sad to hear of a perfectly innocent MT destroyed, but hey..at least he's not cruisin' 'round the forums talkin' about this one time an a$$hole cop stole his HALO for himself, and he's probably still carrying it.

Truth is, if I were caught carrying one of my autos, I'd probably prefer the same thing.

I'll be the freak to say it...I personally thinks ya' done good fer the circumstances.
 
If you're carrying a knife that's illegal in your state, and compounding this with breaking laws on top of that, like being drunk, you're a dumbass and deserve whatever the wheel of fortune brings your way.

Professor.
 
Originally posted by archieblue
OK... so you DID take knives. Now... justify taking someone else's property. Who were you serving? Who were you protecting?

clarity. This is no flame. Sheer interest. I deeply respect any answers/commments. We are all good people here.
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Why are you even bringing this up? We all know how screwed up some of our legal systems are, but as members of this society, we have the obligation to live by its rules or risk losing the rights and benefits of being one of its members.

Police officers are just doing their jobs. Yes, they're serving the public. Yes, sometimes they protect the people by confiscating knives. I understand that you wish to generate a discussion regarding the efficacy of knife confiscation in reducing crime, but I don't think that this sort of critical tone is necessary.
 
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