Question Hide politics subforum from New Posts?

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Roy Batty said:
This seems like an attempt to inconvenience the many for the sake of eliminating an annoyance for a few.
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My original suggestion was that this be a user-selected feature, like myriad other aspects of the forum, which would inconvenience no one.
 
BlackKnight86 said:
I find it amusing that people who claim to not be able to stand the political subforum still participate in it in one form or another. As a grownup, I've somehow not ever had a problem ignoring something that I didn't care for - certainly not enough to bother Spark about an actual alteration in the forum software. I suspect the real problem is different from the complaint that is being presented.

I realize it was back in October 2019; but I find it humorously ironic that the example provided by GeofS in Post #24 is a gloating thread that was actually started by a member of the "side" whose viewpoints these complainers believe are being "suppressed". I guess we aren't as "effective" at it as they claim.....

In any case, I have nothing against removing it from New Posts, if it will stop the insufferable whining. I just don't think it will.
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As a person who wants to hide the political forum and has on occasion posted there I will happily address why I want it suppressed/hidden on the new post feed. I agree with others that ideally this be an option but given the nature of the sub-forum I would be fine with it being a blanket change to all users those who want to see it are free to seek it out. I use the New Post feature a lot but I would rather not see the political threads in it as they are something that I occasional peek into mostly out of a morbid curiosity and if I comment well it is usually just to play a bit of devils advocate or to push for another poster to better explain their point. I chose to poke a stick into the mud others chose to play in it like a hog while some don't want to even see the mud.
 
PirateSeulb said:
As a person who wants to hide the political forum and has on occasion posted there I will happily address why I want it suppressed/hidden on the new post feed. I agree with others that ideally this be an option but given the nature of the sub-forum I would be fine with it being a blanket change to all users those who want to see it are free to seek it out. I use the New Post feature a lot but I would rather not see the political threads in it as they are something that I occasional peek into mostly out of a morbid curiosity and if I comment well it is usually just to play a bit of devils advocate or to push for another poster to better explain their point. I chose to poke a stick into the mud others chose to play in it like a hog while some don't want to even see the mud.
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Being annoyed by politics is a personal issue, and a slippery slope to go down if we start selectively eliminating it from new posts.
What if someone dislikes a particular manufacturer’s forum? Or doesn’t want anything from GKD showing up?
Plenty of knife related threads have gone sour in a lot worse ways than anything in politics.

We are really splitting hairs here if you complain about the appearance of Politics in your feed, yet occasionally head over to post in it.

Sounds more like a personal problem to work through on using the “ignore” feature or just ignoring by way of scrolling, not a forum issue. What is so distracting about seeing the title of a thread?
 
Roy Batty said:
Being annoyed by politics is a personal issue, and a slippery slope to go down if we start selectively eliminating it from new posts.
What if someone dislikes a particular manufacturer’s forum? Or doesn’t want anything from GKD showing up?
Plenty of knife related threads have gone sour in a lot worse ways than anything in politics.
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The difference is that the Political Arena is only accessible to people who buy memberships, none of the other subforums that require a certain membership level to see show up the new posts; the PA is an outlier.
 
Roy Batty said:
Being annoyed by politics is a personal issue, and a slippery slope to go down if we start selectively eliminating it from new posts.
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No... it's not, Kenny...political debate is definable and has always been that way here. Mods have zero problem separating it out from other knife related discussion. Trying to say that removal of the PA from "New Posts" will lead to censoring of knife related discussion is a complete fallacy:rolleyes:

KingMC said:
The difference is that the Political Arena is only accessible to people who buy memberships, none of the other subforums that require a certain membership level to see show up the new posts; the PA is an outlier.
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Exactly...its obviously possible to hide it from the search like the other sections.
 
PirateSeulb said:
As a person who wants to hide the political forum and has on occasion posted there I will happily address why I want it suppressed/hidden on the new post feed. I agree with others that ideally this be an option but given the nature of the sub-forum I would be fine with it being a blanket change to all users those who want to see it are free to seek it out. I use the New Post feature a lot but I would rather not see the political threads in it as they are something that I occasional peek into mostly out of a morbid curiosity and if I comment well it is usually just to play a bit of devils advocate or to push for another poster to better explain their point. I chose to poke a stick into the mud others chose to play in it like a hog while some don't want to even see the mud.
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Does it still show in the New Posts section now that you're a registered user?
 
KingMC said:
The difference is that the Political Arena is only accessible to people who buy memberships, none of the other subforums that require a certain membership level to see show up the new posts; the PA is an outlier.
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Well my point is why is PA designated as so offensive when all we see are thread titles in our feed? Are the thread titles offensive? Is that the issue?
 
I don't think it works as easily for other groups as politics already has a restricted access in that membership is required and in part I believe the reasoning is the sometimes offensive and often times divisive nature of politics can damage the community spirit particularly if freely accessed. This is not to censor it the posts will not disappear they will not be changed simply it will only be visible to those who seek out the political sub-forum. The fact that some what it and others don't is also why I agree the ideal solution is to make it a user option but I don't know all the technical complications involved to know how feasible any of this is.

I see mention of the ignore feature so how am I to use the ignore feature I don't exactly want to ignore a specific user who likes to post in the political sub-forum just hide political sub-forum posts from New Post when I go to that page. Unless I am confusing one ignore feature for another then the ignore feature is a terrible solution.

benchwarmer380 said:
Does it still show in the New Posts section now that you're a registered user?
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So correct since I have not yet renewed my membership they do not show but the minute I do I am sure they will show.
 
Roy Batty said:
Well my point is why is PA designated as so offensive when all we see are thread titles in our feed? Are the thread titles offensive? Is that the issue?
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Yes.

The Political Arena is set up to keep all political commentary out of the rest of the forum, even the thread titles can be political statements by themselves and to have them show up in the 'new posts' section is allowing political statements to be shared outside of the PA.
 
Roy Batty said:
Well my point is why is PA designated as so offensive when all we see are thread titles in our feed? Are the thread titles offensive? Is that the issue?
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KingMC said:
Yes.

The Political Arena is set up to keep all political commentary out of the rest of the forum, even the thread titles can be political statements by themselves and to have them show up in the 'new posts' section is allowing political statements to be shared outside of the PA.
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In the same way that the thread titles in Whine & Cheese are considered offensive/divisive/NSFW. That's why they aren't in the New Posts feed.
 
KingMC said:
Yes.

The Political Arena is set up to keep all political commentary out of the rest of the forum, even the thread titles can be political statements by themselves and to have them show up in the 'new posts' section is allowing political statements to be shared outside of the PA.
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r8shell said:
In the same way that the thread titles in Whine & Cheese are considered offensive/divisive/NSFW. That's why they aren't in the New Posts feed.
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As far as I'm concerned, this is a 100% irrefutable argument for removing the PA from "New Posts".
 
r8shell said:
In the same way that the thread titles in Whine & Cheese are considered offensive/divisive/NSFW. That's why they aren't in the New Posts feed.
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Well w&c titles are offensive due to language and vulgar content. Politics CAN be offensive as a consideration of an emotional reaction to political opinions... And only to those with a strong opposing view. Really an apples vs. oranges comparison.
 
Roy Batty said:
Well w&c titles are offensive due to language and vulgar content. Politics is offensive as a consideration of an emotional reaction to political opinions. Really an apples vs. oranges comparison.
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No.

The PA and W&C are identical in practice, they each are the sole location for a specific subset of content that is not allowed in any other part of the forum as a whole. Personal opinions don't come into play when it comes to how the forum operates, cuss words and politics are segregated exactly the same.
 
KingMC said:
No.

The PA and W&C are identical in practice, they each are the sole location for a specific subset of content that is not allowed in any other part of the forum as a whole. Personal opinions don't come into play when it comes to how the forum operates, cuss words and politics are segregated exactly the same.
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Well the forum parameters for the subjects might be similar at a high level, but how each function and operate differ greatly.
 
PA is filled with some very extreme political views and chock full of vitriol. I can easily see why some people would prefer not to have the threads pop up in the new post feed when seeking a relaxing escape into their hobby, just like W&C.

Also as referenced below, a thread title can sound interesting, but when a person clicks on it they could quickly become distressed at the current state of humanity. I go there bc I choose to engage with the extremists, but so many choose otherwise. Just as I choose not to engage in W&C and am happy not to see those posts in the new post feed.
 
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kenny ,its the high level that is the problem . The titles in PA become click bait . This is the Only reason I let my membership drop. As a paying member I should have the right not to see "click bait" in New Posts, Why is this so hard for you to understand kenny?
 
Boru13 said:
If the ignore function was utilized those thread titles would not be viewable.
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True, at least more than once. That would of course block the thread starter's posts elsewhere, but I guess that's a tradeoff people are considering.

One thing wroth mentioning is that a lot of the PA threads are started by the moderators. I know ignoring a forum mod wasn't allowed in the old software. I think it is now, but people who have been here a while might not be aware of that change.
 
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