High VALUE Knives

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What are some of your favorite high value knives?

I am talking high VALUE, NOT high price. I am sure your Sebenza, Strider, ZT, etc is a great knife, but what knives can you get for a fraction of the cost that really offer tons of performance per dollar spent?

I think there is a curve of price vs. performance where in the begining every dollar extra you spend really gets you a lot more knife, but then you start to hit an asymtote where your return on investment diminishes. I am looking for knives in that "sweet spot" on the curve where you get a good quality knife with the most bang for your buck.

For example, I would love to buy a Demko AD-10, but I can get an Cold Steel american lawman with Demko's same tri-ad lock for $55. I think it is a really solid knife with awesome features for less than 10% of what a Demko AD-10 would cost, and no waiting. I am not trying to bash on folks that buy high dollar knives, more power to them. I am happy for folks that can afford the finer things in life. I am just interested in getting the most performance per dollar spent.

What are some other HIGH VALUE knives?

Dax
 
What's your price range?

I am asking that because you are obviously focused on price here....

Comparing a hand made 100% Custom AD-10 to a production CS knife........ REALLY?????

They aren't even on the same planet.....
 
I have to agree with Ankerson.
It may have the same lock and be a great knife but it's far from being a hand made custom.

Anyways... basically you're looking for "Bang for your buck" knives.
Here's a list:
Most Kershaw knives.
Spyderco Ambitious
Spyderco Persistence
Spyderco Tenacious
Spyderco Resilience
Spyderco Kiwi
Byrd knives
Buck Vantage
Boker Subcom
Some boker ti frame locks at like $55 and lower!
Spyderco Para2 - It's around $100 or a little over but it's excellent and well worth it.
Spyderco Gayle Bradley
Spyderco Sage series
Spyderco Chokwe
And many more.
 
I have to agree with Ankerson.
It may have the same lock and be a great knife but it's far from being a hand made custom.

Anyways... basically you're looking for "Bang for your buck" knives.
Here's a list:
Most Kershaw knives.
Spyderco Ambitious
Spyderco Persistence
Spyderco Tenacious
Spyderco Resilience
Spyderco Kiwi
Byrd knives
Buck Vantage
Boker Subcom
Some boker ti frame locks at like $55 and lower!
Spyderco Para2 - It's around $100 or a little over but it's excellent and well worth it.
Spyderco Gayle Bradley
Spyderco Sage series
Spyderco Chokwe
And many more.



Yeah I started laughing when I read that. ROFL :D
 
Most bang for the buck?

Folding knives:

Opinels
Victorinox
Ontario Rat-1
Spyderco's China line and Byrd line
Most Kershaws under $50
Buck 110 and Vantage

Fixed blades:

Mora
Buck 119
Chicago Cutlery carbon kitchen knives
Forschner kitchen knives

There are many more, these are the first that came to mind.
 
I've gotten more value out of a $15 Pendleton Lite than I have any other knife. I use it as a prybar, screwdriver, box cutter, wood splitter, steak knife, etc. and so far the only damage I've been able to cause it is a tiny bit of the tip chipped off (stupid screw wouldn't cooperate...) It's like the ultimate beater knife... And if you break it, just buy a new one :)
 
I am not asking for a specific price range, just want to know what folks consider to be high value knives. I DO think the AD-10 and American Lawman are on the same planet. I am not talking about style, uniqueness or presige, I am focused on function and general quality. Obviously the Demko custom is something special and a superior knife, but is it 15 times better than an American Lawman?

For example, a good quality 3x9 Leupold rifle scope might cost $400, and that $400 scope is way better than an $80 Tasco or Bushnell. However, the $400 Leupold doesn't measure up to a $2000+ Leica, Swarovski, Zeiss, etc. Even though it isn't the absolute best scope out there, the Leupold still represents the highest value in the rifle scope spectrum, the optimization between quality and price.

It looks like BladeChick777 sees what I am after

Dax
 
I am not asking for a specific price range, just want to know what folks consider to be high value knives. I DO think the AD-10 and American Lawman are on the same planet. I am not talking about style, uniqueness or presige, I am focused on function and general quality. Obviously the Demko custom is something special and a superior knife, but is it 15 times better than an American Lawman?


Dax


Really they aren't, I own 2 AD-10's and my share of CS Tri-Ad locked knives.

And the Locks aren't even really the same exactly, and that's not even getting into materials and tolerances.

Mount that $80 scope on a 340 or better Weatherby and see how long it lasts... Not very long......
 
What are some of your favorite high value knives?

I am talking high VALUE, NOT high price. I am sure your Sebenza, Strider, ZT, etc is a great knife, but what knives can you get for a fraction of the cost that really offer tons of performance per dollar spent?

I think there is a curve of price vs. performance where in the begining every dollar extra you spend really gets you a lot more knife, but then you start to hit an asymtote where your return on investment diminishes. I am looking for knives in that "sweet spot" on the curve where you get a good quality knife with the most bang for your buck.

For example, I would love to buy a Demko AD-10, but I can get an Cold Steel american lawman with Demko's same tri-ad lock for $55. I think it is a really solid knife with awesome features for less than 10% of what a Demko AD-10 would cost, and no waiting. I am not trying to bash on folks that buy high dollar knives, more power to them. I am happy for folks that can afford the finer things in life. I am just interested in getting the most performance per dollar spent.

What are some other HIGH VALUE knives?

Dax


Yep, that's a nutnfancy coined term. :D
 
Well, knives have a lot more put in them than just the function.
There is:
Materials
Time and craftsmanship
Functionality
Fit and finish
and many other components

Really it all depends on what you expect and what you're looking for.

If you're just looking for a great knife that works extremely well and maybe looks good too, production only may work for you.

If you're looking for more than just a nice looking, great knife, that works for your purposes... then Semi-custom or Custom may work for you.
 
Many compared the alias 2 and the sebenza although in the end many still consider the sebenza to be better. Of course their are going to be knives that are similar, but you cant really compare a camry and a Italian import, both may get you to the same place but the reason the person is in the Italian car is self explanatory.

As for value, many of the spyderco knives have what you are looking for, a few benchmade knives will fit the bill as well.
 
I can think of a few.

Over the last couple of years I've gone through a bunch of knives looking for something that did the job right without worrying about the money. For opening up mail, picking my teeth, getting the screw out of the back of my kids' teddy bears that make the sound of a mother's heartbeat so I can change the batteries, open packages or the plastic vacu-sealed deli meats from Winco, stuff like that... it's hard to beat a small SAK. They're pretty useful. The Leatherman Micra does a great job of that kind of thing too, but I think it's a little better.

For flippers, there are a ton of Kershaw choices under $50. I have a hard time finding a reason to go elsewhere.

For folders in the case where you have time and two hands free there's always Buck and Opinel.

For an outdoors fixed blade, I happen to like the Cold Steel Bushman, either style. They're so cheap you might as well buy a handful of them and consider them to be disposable. Or, customize it however you like without fear of making a mistake.

For a tomahawk, the Cold Steel Trail Hawk.

For throwing knives, I would pony up the money and get some Bobby Branson knives.

For a hatchet, the Gerber Fiskars series is a great option.

For kitchen knives I generally float through a Ross Dress for Less and pick up whatever they have in the bin for $20 or less.

For steak knives I don't see much of a reason to look past a Victorinox paring knife for $2-3. However, I do have wood steak plates so there's that. And I have a nice end grain hardwood cutting board that I spent about $80 on, completely forgetting the Superboard or whatever it's called that would have been at least as good if not better for half the price.

I use EMT trauma shears for kitchen shears and have a couple of Oneida kitchen knives among my random Ross Dress for Less generic forged kitchen knives. I have some Hamilton Forge knives, a triangular Japanese style chef's knife, etc.

My wife scrapes by (yuk yuk) with a pair of scissors that's just stamped STAINLESS and MADE IN CHINA. They open boxes, trim cloth, do every damn thing under the sun for her. They haven't been sharpened in years. I bought her sister the ONLY knife she has in her kitchen. No seriously folks, she has ONE KNIFE from about four years ago that's never been sharpened.

What else do I have. I have a Shun Sandwich Knife. The blade is chipped, I need to send it in for sharpening. I swear, nothing is better than that knife for cutting into ripe tomatoes. Something about that scalloped edge never tears the skin. It works great on anything, but the edge is a little fragile.

For razors, I like the out of the box easy shaving no questions asked Merkur Futur double edge. You can get your hands on 500 Darby blades for $50 if you know where to look. It's not exactly $50 so I don't think I'm breaking any dealspotting rules. There's a national retail chain that periodically has Proraso Green shaving cream under a different brand name for a good price. I'm pretty sure I have close to a lifetime supply of blades and cream for about $300.

The Spyderco Sharpmaker used to be the sharpening system of choice for me and mine, but with the diamond sticks it set me back about $130 or so. There's a paper wheel system out there for much less that apparently kicks butt. The customizing forum guys can point you in the right direction.

So, it's up to you. I like to get the best bang out of my money. I'm not sure I spent less money in total so far than some of the guys who have one or two custom knives made exactly to their specifications. I have piles of production knives that I found out sooner or later didn't quite do what I wanted them to do. Case in point is the Kershaw Junk Yard Dog II. I thought I was going to love it. It turns out I don't like how wide the blade is. I want something thin and narrow to get in behind something and cut towards the outside. Who knew? It fit every other criteria, I thought I had my decision all dialled in. Nope. So I'm looking for another flipper. This is probably my tenth flipper now, so I've spent something like $500 on knives that don't do what I want. Nevertheless, there's a Kershaw Asset that could be perfect for me. But, I have a SOG Twitch II that already that fits all the uses I'd have for the Asset, so I'm in no hurry to buy another knife. Maybe the grip would be better, but I don't work field trauma anymore so having a grip made slippery by blood isn't high on my list anymore. No need for textured G10 scales.

I don't worry about it much these days. If I ever decide to get a custom made knife I know what to ask for. I have my own personal reasons for wanting one knife over another now. It took a little messing around and trying different things, but I'm pretty sure I could spend $500 with more wisdom now than when I first started buying knives at the gun show. I doubt I will, though. There are enough production knives that meet my needs.

I finally figured out what I wanted from a flashlight, batteries, and a charger. It took a while, but I figured it out. Same with a really cool burl wood pen, a nice little Art Deco lighter that resembles a Zippo in function but little else, etc. If I got a custom handmade version of every toy I had I'd probably only have three or four toys. As it is, I get to enjoy lots of them. This is the beauty of the Industrial Revolution.
 
'Value' is such a subjective term as to be almost usless when applied as a point of argument. So, given that, what has value to me, would be anything by -

Spyderco
Byrd
Condor
A.G.Russell
ESEE

Selected -

Benchmade
Kershaw
Buck
Emerson
Case
Canal Street
Cold Steel
Ontario

And many others that I have no doubt missed. Bottom line? Seek and ye shall find.
 
Wow, hostile crowd :(? I don't own any custom knives either; never will. Ignorance is bliss, I guess ;). In my opinion, the regular Native and the Manix XL are my choices for medium and large folders, in the "best bang for the buck contest". "Value"= S30V in excellent $55 and $95 knives. At $38 and $44, the best value beaters have to be the medium and large Voyagers.
 
Wow, hostile crowd :(? I don't own any custom knives either; never will. Ignorance is bliss, I guess ;). In my opinion, the regular Native and the Manix XL are my choices for medium and large folders, in the "best bang for the buck contest". "Value"= S30V in excellent $55 and $95 knives. At $38 and $44, the best value beaters have to be the medium and large Voyagers.

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Doug
 
Wow, hostile crowd :(? I don't own any custom knives either; never will. Ignorance is bliss, I guess ;). In my opinion, the regular Native and the Manix XL are my choices for medium and large folders, in the "best bang for the buck contest". "Value"= S30V in excellent $55 and $95 knives. At $38 and $44, the best value beaters have to be the medium and large Voyagers.

A very valid argument, especially considering that I own one of every knife you mentioned. :)

In the same vein, I could make an excellent case that a Sebenza or a Strider are a good value for the dollar, just bigger dollars. ;)
 
What's your price range?

I am asking that because you are obviously focused on price here....

Comparing a hand made 100% Custom AD-10 to a production CS knife........ REALLY?????

They aren't even on the same planet.....


How the hell custom AD-10 and Coldsteel production aren't even on same planet? Just because difference on blade steel/handle material been used? or because AD-10 is you fav folder and you bough it?

Over exaggerated as always Mr.Ankerson.

On topic the best value knife for me is Spyderco Para2.
 
Value is a subjective term. It can mean very different things to different people. I value some knives for different reasons. Some for their daily use. Some for collector interest. Some because of personal history with the knife. Some because they belonged to my deceased father. One because it was my very first knife, given to me on my 4th birthday 62 years ago.

If you mean durability and use versus price, it is my opinion that the Spyderco Native is unbeatable.

If you mean which would you least want to part with, it would be the small pot metal bowie with the imitation plastic stag handle slabs and he cheap compass in the handle, made in
Japan way back in 1950 when that was synonomous with junk.
 
What's your price range?

I am asking that because you are obviously focused on price here....

Comparing a hand made 100% Custom AD-10 to a production CS knife........ REALLY?????

They aren't even on the same planet.....



What he said.



I think I got my best "Bang for Buck" on a very expensive Dozier Folder.


Production knives are not even in the same ballpark.





Big Mike
 
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