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Hellow, sorry for the dumb qusetion:o
I am a regular hiker and their are mountain lions and other wild animals in the
area.I can't carry a gun and don't like bear sprays,so what knife would be ideal to deffend myself and others against a wild aggressive animal.
 
I would find one with the most reach, so you could put as much distance between you and the animal. Maybe you should search some survival tips on what to do incase you come up on a mountain lion. Not knowing the tendacies of a mountain lion I would recommend that you back up slowly and don't draw a knife.
 
If this risk is genuine then definitely carry a gun.

Seriously... don't bring a knife to a lion fight!
 
saw a movie one time where a guy named tarzan kilt a lion with a knife. it was a BIG one. so, sure, use a knife. just trying to help. :D
 
If this risk is genuine then definitely carry a gun.

Seriously... don't bring a knife to a lion fight!

Seriously:thumbup:

By the time you know there is a Mountain lion hunting you, it's usually because your heads in its mouth:eek:

That said. Mtn Lions usually attack your blind side, so I wouldn't bring something too long and unwieldy. If you had to fight him off a 5" long sharp pointy knife would be my choice; if it was even possible to even unsheath it and use it in time.

Good luck
 
But a Bears & Lions free are where hiking? Seriously, bears and lions are not kind of beasts you can fight with e knife, whatever lenght. At least they have 19 blades ready more than you, not counting tooths. I have seen pictures of people wounded to dead from the lower leg of the animal while both, human and animal, where standing front to front. Fighing without "groins" is not nice. I also think that in case some of these natives mey decide to have you as meal there will be no whay to know, until the first bite.
 
This is probably not the best comparison but....here it goes anyway.

My neighbor has a very aggressive half pit mutt. It has gotten out on a few occasions. My garbage pails are on the side of the house, as I was taking trash out this thing got loose. Usually it barks, growls and bares it teeth, on this occasion my back was turned and I had no idea it was there. I happened to have my spyderco endura opened still in my hand because I was cutting cardboard. I heard the movement in the brush and turned immediately to see it charging at me. I put that tip of the endura right out there and readied for that pit. That dog got about half a foot from the tip of that blade dead stopped in it's tracks and literally walked backwards through the brush growling low baring its teeth and watching me the whole time. I have never seen anything like that before ( I work outdoors so it's not the first time I have had to go toe to toe with nature ). I still don't know whether it was the knife or my posture because at the time I full on thought I was going to have to end that dogs existence.

Probably not the best example but I do think every living thing has a tendency towards self preservation, I don't think too many things would dive head first into a sharp pointed object a second time.

However if it was me a .357 mag at the VERY LEAST. Prepare for the worst, hope for the best. ex. what if it's the bear and not the mountain lion!
 
Was it Daniel Boone or was it Davy Crockett that killed a bear with a knife (according to a popular song of the 1950's)? In any event, it would probably be newsworthy to succeed in killing with a knife a bear that was attacking you. But the OP didn't say anything about fighting off bears, only that he didn't like bear spray.

We have mountain lions in the hills around here, and they generally don't attack adults. Mountain lions and lions refer to two different types of lions. Mountain lions are much smaller.

Children, of course, look like prey to them. Adults look like prey when they stoop down, like to tie a shoe or to fix a bike tire. The standard advice is to be very careful before you stoop down and make yourself look small.

As for a knife, I would think that a 4" blade would be the minimum. In my limited time looking into the knife world, I haven't seen that many larger-bladed pocket knifes. Cold Steel seems to have a few folding knife offerings with 5" and 6" blades, though the 6" knife seems a bit unwieldy for a pocket knife.

A knife with the Emerson wave opener feature would be handy as it allows you to pull the folding knife out of your pocket and open it at the same time.

If you go for fixed blade knife with a sheath, make sure you can pull the knife out of the sheath one-handed.

Finally, you might consider a starter pistol if that is not considered a firearm in your area. That would be especially useful if you were to see a mountain lion stalking you, and it would be handy as a signaling device in some circumstances.
 
This is probably not the best comparison but....here it goes anyway.

My neighbor has a very aggressive half pit mutt. It has gotten out on a few occasions. My garbage pails are on the side of the house, as I was taking trash out this thing got loose. Usually it barks, growls and bares it teeth, on this occasion my back was turned and I had no idea it was there. I happened to have my spyderco endura opened still in my hand because I was cutting cardboard. I heard the movement in the brush and turned immediately to see it charging at me. I put that tip of the endura right out there and readied for that pit. That dog got about half a foot from the tip of that blade dead stopped in it's tracks and literally walked backwards through the brush growling low baring its teeth and watching me the whole time. I have never seen anything like that before ( I work outdoors so it's not the first time I have had to go toe to toe with nature ). I still don't know whether it was the knife or my posture because at the time I full on thought I was going to have to end that dogs existence.

Probably not the best example but I do think every living thing has a tendency towards self preservation, I don't think too many things would dive head first into a sharp pointed object a second time.

However if it was me a .357 mag at the VERY LEAST. Prepare for the worst, hope for the best. ex. what if it's the bear and not the mountain lion!

My guess is that it had more to do with your posture. I think if you faced him unarmed, he would be less likely to attack than if you had your back turned and the knife pointing at him.
 
Can you get some kind of shot shells for .44mag?

Yes but i would rather carry something nasty like hydrashocks because i just dont think shot would have the penetration to stop a bear or mountain lion, mountain lions will get scared off if their young arent in danger but bears sometimes can be stubborn

kaizen1 you beat me to the wasp knife idea, this knife would kill a bear most definatley, the amount of shock to any living thing would be unimaginable but good luck getting close its why i like the crawford staff besides i dont really think it would matter if your out in the woods wether its legal or not at least as long as its not a meth lab or rocket launcher, everythings illegal in kalifornia these days and besides dont know if the op is from kali i know one of those counts is then blowgun which is not obvious to look at anyways, but i figure if there are cops patrolling in the deep woodds htey arent looking for a guy with a spear probably the afforementioned meth lab :D
 
Buck Nighthawk---long, ergonimic, economical and very tough. That's my knife recommendation.

My big picture recommendation is a nice revolver.
 
i think blowgun and spear

To my knowledge, spears are perfectly legal in CA. I'm guessing it might have to do with the blade being concealed in the staff, which I think would be fine if the blade were already placed outside of the staff. The blow gun might illegal, which I think if you leave the darts at home, there shouldn't be a problem.

The last hing you want to do is irritate a lion or a bear with a little dart anyway:D.
 
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