Hiking/Backpacking Sidearms; My Choices

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I'm heading out to do some hiking and camping in the near future, so I thought I would post some handguns I find particularly useful for this purpose.

I'm a Glock guy, yes, so these three choices are all tupperware. Sorry if you wanted blued steel and leather!

I always seem to get rained on when out, and I'm a sweaty guy to boot. So I find Tennifer, ballistic nylon and kydex to be my combinations of choice out in the weather.

The guns -
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Top - Glock 20, 10MM
Middle - Glock 30, .45 ACP
Bottom - Glock 36, .45 ACP

These guns have all been customized to some degree or other. The 20 has had its grip chopped to accept the shorter Glock 29 magazines. The grip has also been stippled for a nice rough grip. It carries 11 rounds, but will still take the full sized Glock 20 magazines. It has Trijicon night sights.

The Glock 30 has also had the grip stippled, but is stock other than that. I really need to do something about those stock sights! It carries 11 rounds, but can also accept the larger Glock 21 magazines.

The 36 is Glock's "slimline" .45. It has Heinie Straight Eight night sights and grip tape on the support hand side of the grip. It will hold seven rounds. It's a single stack, the others have double stack magazines.
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When hiking or backpacking, I don't carry openly. I don't care to worry the sheeple, and I find that concealed helps protect the weapon better. If I'm carrying a backpack, then belt carry can be a problem, so I use various means of carrying.

Safepacker -

I like the Safepacker because it completely covers the weapon.
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The packer has a full flap. The Safepacker can be used with no belt, just slung over the shoulder. It has a strip of velcro along the left side which pulls open to expose the pistol for the draw.
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It also has a small pocket on the interior which holds one reload. It nestles in right under the grip of the pistol.
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The Safepacker has a large belt loop on the back which can be put on a waist strap or regular belt.
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All three of my favorite hiking pistols will fit in the Safepacker. The 36 is, however, the lightest of the three. It has a narrower grip than the 30 or the 20. Here is a pic of it side by side with the 30 for comparison.
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If you aren't familiar with these Glock models, the 20 is Glock's full sized 10mm. The 30 is Glock's compact .45 ACP. It has a slightly shorter slide than the 36, surprisingly. Here is a pic comparing the 30 with the 20.
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I also have a variety of other carry methods for these pistols.
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When traveling, I like to have options. I have an inside the waistband kydex holster (comp-tac) that can fit either the 30 or the 20. The nylon holster in this picture is a Bianchi, and it will fit all three pistols. I don't use the topstrap on the holster; it holds all three weapons very firmly.

Glock now makes both the 30 and the 20 in the "SF" version, which means they have smaller, narrower grips. If you haven't tried these pistols for outdoor carry, you should. With polymer frames, they are lighter than other all steel pistols or revolvers. The finish on these pistols is very tough and corrosion resistant.

So, there you have my choices. :thumbup:

Andy
 
even though its short and fat i have a love affair with the 30. first handgun i ever shot and was surprisingly accurate with at 20 yards. been thinking about going to check out the 36 too though for concealed carry. nice pistols sir. -CB
 
I would love to have a G20 for hiking. Right now I just use my CCW which is a H&K USPc 40.
 
even though its short and fat i have a love affair with the 30. first handgun i ever shot and was surprisingly accurate with at 20 yards. been thinking about going to check out the 36 too though for concealed carry. nice pistols sir. -CB

Between the 30 and the 36, the 30 is by far the more comfortable shooter. It soaks up recoil better and it is a very accurate pistol. I wouldn't have any trouble potting rabbits for the kettle with it.

The 36, on the other hand, is another critter altogether, IMO. This pistol can be a handful for the uninitiated. It generates more felt recoil, and it is more subject to limp wristing than the 30. You have to train to lock down on it a bit tighter to prevent misfeeds.

It is nice and slim though, and noticeably lighter than the 30.

Andy
 
Top - Glock 20, 10MM
Middle - Glock 30, .45 ACP
Bottom - Glock 36, .45 ACP
Andy

What did you do to your 20? That ain't no normal Glock 20 -- looks like it got attacked by termites in the grip area.

I carry a full-sized Glock 20, and have been debating getting a safepacker for awhile now. How easy is it to mount? I have no interest in wearing a huge wallet on my belt, so it would get attached to a pack somewhere while hiking. Can you attach it in the front, between chest straps? That's something I've been looking for in a carry system.
 
What do Glocks have to do with wilderness and survival skills? Possibly this should be moved to a gun forum instead of this one. That said, I do have a CCW permit and own pistols but they dont contribute to my wilderness and survival SKILLS.--KV
 
What did you do to your 20? That ain't no normal Glock 20 -- looks like it got attacked by termites in the grip area.

I carry a full-sized Glock 20, and have been debating getting a safepacker for awhile now. How easy is it to mount? I have no interest in wearing a huge wallet on my belt, so it would get attached to a pack somewhere while hiking. Can you attach it in the front, between chest straps? That's something I've been looking for in a carry system.

I had the grip shortened and stippled. It will now accept the same mags that G29s take. This makes the weapon less bulky and easier to conceal if necessary, and slightly lighter while keeping the full length barrel.

The fullsized 20 would not fit in the size Safepacker I have.

The Safepacker is designed to fit on the waistbelt of a back pack. It rides very nicely there. You might be able to attach it to the chest strap, but I don't think that would be as comfortable.

Andy
 
What do Glocks have to do with wilderness and survival skills? Possibly this should be moved to a gun forum instead of this one. That said, I do have a CCW permit and own pistols but they dont contribute to my wilderness and survival SKILLS.--KV

The same thing that knives have to do with wilderness and survival. They are tools that help to keep us safe and sound while out in the timber.

Personally, I just got a S&W Model 36-1... but, I've really had my eye on a Ruger Single Six for a while now. Those just look so damn cool.

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I appreciate having this posted in WS. I've been thinking through what gun to get and this has been helpful.

I've narrowed down my choices to the Glock 36, S&W M&P small .45, or the small Springfield XD45.

L
 
What do Glocks have to do with wilderness and survival skills? Possibly this should be moved to a gun forum instead of this one. That said, I do have a CCW permit and own pistols but they dont contribute to my wilderness and survival SKILLS.--KV

That is your opinion, and you can gladly keep it. If you do some browsing around this forum, however, you will find that there are quite a few people who do like to have a firearm with them when in the wilderness.

The number one skill for me, when being in the backwoods, is to stay alive. Hopefully in a comfortable fashion. And for me, a firearm could be very important in reaching that goal.

On the whole issue of firearms and wilderness; a lot of people have opinions pro or con, but that isn't the point of this thread, and I don't want it to turn into a pro vs. anti thread. If you like a firearm on the trail, cool, if not, cool, but no pissing matches please!

Andy

Oh, and BTW; there isn't a "gun forum" per se on BF.
 
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A firearm doesn't contribute to your survival skills? You must not be doing it right. I guess you can kill game and attackers just as efficiently without a firearm.


What do Glocks have to do with wilderness and survival skills? Possibly this should be moved to a gun forum instead of this one. That said, I do have a CCW permit and own pistols but they dont contribute to my wilderness and survival SKILLS.--KV
 
I appreciate having this posted in WS. I've been thinking through what gun to get and this has been helpful.

I've narrowed down my choices to the Glock 36, S&W M&P small .45, or the small Springfield XD45.

L

I think you will find that the M&P and the XD45 are both bulkier and heavier than the G36. That is neither better or worse, just a difference.

Andy
 
The same thing that knives have to do with wilderness and survival. They are tools that help to keep us safe and sound while out in the timber.

Personally, I just got a S&W Model 36-1... but, I've really had my eye on a Ruger Single Six for a while now. Those just look so damn cool.

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I like the small frame revolvers, too. I would probably bob the hammer, but that's just me.

Andy
 
I also pack a Glock - G19 9mm & Love it :thumbup: You can't beat a glock !
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Nice combo. I carried a G26 as a pack gun for quite a while. It fits that role very well, but I decided to go for something with a little more oooomph.

The Glock 27 and 23 (.40) work well as hiking/backpacking guns too.

Andy
 
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