Hiking/Backpacking Sidearms; My Choices

great looking stuff andrew...:thumbup: i like glocks too...:thumbup: i have been meaning to get one for a while.. i wish we could carry handguns in the backcountry here in CA...:(

i really like that chest pack/holster.. those things are cool.. a buddy of mine has one..
 
kvaughn said:
What do Glocks have to do with wilderness and survival skills? Possibly this should be moved to a gun forum instead of this one. That said, I do have a CCW permit and own pistols but they dont contribute to my wilderness and survival SKILLS.--KV
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In my opinion, being accurate with a firearm is a very necessary "skill" for "survival" when one is actually in a real survival situation out in the boonies, etc.

My reasoning is based on the need for food, which is far more attainable with a firearm than waiting around for a Figure 4 trap to perhaps snag a bunny or rat. In the event some four legged predator decides to have me for lunch, I'll take a firearm for protection every time.

Then there are the two legged predators who, although fairly rare, are indeed out there in the boonies at times.

Not to say that all the other outdoor skills are unnecessary compared to the need for a firearm: just saying that a firearm is nothing more than another tool in one's outdoor "tool chest."

Afterall, what was good enough for Daniel Boone and the other longhunters, Lewis & Clark, Jim Bridger, Jed Smith, and Kit Carson, Nessmuk, et al, is good enough for me. :thumbup:

L.W.
 
Andrew Colglazier said:
I had the grip shortened and stippled. It will now accept the same mags that G29s take. This makes the weapon less bulky and easier to conceal if necessary, and slightly lighter while keeping the full length barrel.

The fullsized 20 would not fit in the size Safepacker I have.

The Safepacker is designed to fit on the waistbelt of a back pack. It rides very nicely there. You might be able to attach it to the chest strap, but I don't think that would be as comfortable.

Andy
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So how is your G20 different than a G29 now? That seems like a lot of work to basically get the same thing as a G29, but now you've lost the full grip length of the G20 which makes it so nice to shoot.

Thanks for the info on the Safepacker. It's not quite what I'm looking for, but it may be as good as it gets.
 
Mountainman38 said:
So how is your G20 different than a G29 now? That seems like a lot of work to basically get the same thing as a G29, but now you've lost the full grip length of the G20 which makes it so nice to shoot.

Thanks for the info on the Safepacker. It's not quite what I'm looking for, but it may be as good as it gets.
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The chopped G20 has the full length barrel, which allows for full ballistics. The extra weight out front (compared to the shorter G29) also helps with recoil control, and you have a longer sight radius to boot. I also have pretty small hands, so the shorter grip doesn't bother me.

Andy
 
QUOTE : Personally, I just got a S&W Model 36-1... but, I've really had my eye on a Ruger Single Six for a while now. Those just look so damn cool.

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I'm a revolver fan also I carry my model 66 S&W snubbie when I feel the need to pack. Usually with some stout handloads & snakeshot...
 
I'm usually a revolver guy also, but that Glock 36 looks mighty nice. I'd like something that carries concealed really well, and yes, I have a CCW that I use in the woods.
 
STAGE 2 said:
Andrew, who did the stippling on your glocks and what areas did they reduce?
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Stage 2, the work was done by a gunsmith named Mike Caylor (caylor custom guns) in the Dallas area.

He simply shortened and reprofiled the bottom of the grip so it could accept G29 magazines, and stippled the grip.

Andy
 
Hey Andy, thanks for the pics and thoughts on the Safepacker. When I started looking into buying my first handgun a few months ago I was looking at those as a carry option for whatever I chose. I kinda forgot about them in the interim but now I have a Ruger 22/45 Mk III and a Colt M1991a1 Commander which are about the same size and could probably both fit the same Safepacker. I think it's about time to go order one.

Thanks for the thoughts on the Glocks too. I was looking at a few of their offerings after I had shot my .22 for a while, but ended up with the Commander instead when I found a used one at a really good price. I'm sure I'll still end up with a Glock or two somewhere down the line though.

-Chris
 
Go by K.I.S.S. for the Not PC's Keep It Simple Stupefied .[my Joke } also {search} Hand Gun on the the Body! Long gun or nearby .
Me ... I keep a long blade nearby.as a back back up Depending on the country some times the Prime tool, do not get hung up where you live as we we all are Voyagers in life.
 
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LEANWOLF--I agree that a gun is a very necessary survival tool. I have my modded 10/22 for that. I just dont see a modified Glock falling into the category of survival firearm. Its more of the " lets shoot somebody" category and there's really too much of that attitude around. --Just my 2 cents, not trying to be rude or start an argument.--KV
 
Some people choose not to be a victim. You obviously don't subscribe to that mentality. You think legal gun owners have a "let's shoot somebody" mindset when they in fact are the most law abiding group of people in the country. It's sad you are so ignorant about such things.
 
And I emphasize the kid. Having been raised in a firearm owning and using family and spending more than my share of time with the military in SE Asia I assure you I dont need your sympathy or advice. Perhaps you didnt notice in my post that I have a ccw and carry on a daily basis. My point being that a Glock is not considered a hunting/sporting firearm. You dont see people in deer hunting season going out with a Glock and I dont carry my Security Six when I go. Glock type tactical sidearms are designed for one thing. Although in your case it may be two things. Self defense and to bolster your ego.--And this is the end of playing your game:yawn:
 
That's right a glock is designed for personal protection. That is the very reason to have with you while hiking. Apparently you don't think you will have to defend yourself in the woods. Anyone that says something like carrying a Glock is about "let's shoot someone" is certainly lacking in basic firearms knowledge. You might get away with that on a knife forum. Why don't you try and run that logic by the hordes of military and LEO at someplace like ar15.com They won't be as polite as I have been. I carry to be prepared no matter where I go and for no other reason.
 
Really, the Glock is basically the same idea as my S&W. It's not -really- a "hunting gun", more of a self-protection piece. However, it can be pressed into service as a hunting tool... but, that's not really where it shines. But, we carry them for a peace of mind, just in case. Personally, I worry more about dogs in my area, moreso than people. That's why I switched from a NAA .22 mag to the .38 Special. Just my opinion, of course. YMMV.
 
Andrew clearly states his reasons for choosing a Glock over another type of firearm. I'd also assume his experience with these guns in competition shooting further reinforce his choice.


Andrew Colglazier said:
I always seem to get rained on when out, and I'm a sweaty guy to boot. So I find Tennifer, ballistic nylon and kydex to be my combinations of choice out in the weather.

If you haven't tried these pistols for outdoor carry, you should. With polymer frames, they are lighter than other all steel pistols or revolvers. The finish on these pistols is very tough and corrosion resistant.

Andy
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ilbruche said:
Andrew clearly states his reasons for choosing a Glock over another type of firearm. I'd also assume his experience with these guns in competition shooting further reinforce his choice.
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Yeah, and he makes really valid points. But... those Glocks just arent as classy as the wheel-guns :p
 
Andrew Colglazier said:
That is your opinion, and you can gladly keep it. If you do some browsing around this forum, however, you will find that there are quite a few people who do like to have a firearm with them when in the wilderness.

The number one skill for me, when being in the backwoods, is to stay alive. Hopefully in a comfortable fashion. And for me, a firearm could be very important in reaching that goal.

On the whole issue of firearms and wilderness; a lot of people have opinions pro or con, but that isn't the point of this thread, and I don't want it to turn into a pro vs. anti thread. If you like a firearm on the trail, cool, if not, cool, but no pissing matches please!

Andy

Oh, and BTW; there isn't a "gun forum" per se on BF.
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Wilderness carry is the main reason I got my CCW and I really like my G23.

Jeff
 
kvaughn said:
LEANWOLF--I agree that a gun is a very necessary survival tool. I have my modded 10/22 for that. Its more of the " lets shoot somebody" category and there's really too much of that attitude around. --Just my 2 cents, not trying to be rude or start an argument.--KV
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I mean no insult although it seems you these friendly firearm posts always turn ugly.

To quote you you said:

'I just dont see a modified Glock falling into the category of survival firearm.'

I don't know what your definition of 'survival' is. My definition is 'doing what is necessary to keep my family and me alive'. My opinion is that the need for 'sustainment' from hunting in a hiking senario is practically nill. The need to use a firearm to protect one's self (or more importantly my family) is much higher. If his G36 fits that role good for him. I have a general distain for people who are conditional about their advocation of the second amendment.
 
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