Hiking with a rifle?

There are things far worse than death. Such as a cage.

Again there are things far worse than death. If something happened to my family when I could have been legally carrying I do not know if I could forgive myself.

It is better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
 
imaginefj said:
There are things far worse than death. Such as a cage.
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Agreed.

Again there are things far worse than death. If something happened to my family when I could have been legally carrying I do not know if I could forgive myself.
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I do not have a family of my own, so you can take my thoughts for what they're worth, but I don't think one could provide for their family from a prison cell either. In fact, with a convict for an uncle, I know this to be truth. He can't/won't do jack for his kids.

It is better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
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You know my views here. Carried by 6 and judged by God. I'm ok with that. :) On that, I am gonna stop on this thread because it has gotten way off track.
 
I prefer to hike with whatever I want, preferably with friends or my brothers, the last time I hiked with a weapon was years ago and I took a 454 casull. It was in Alaska, but anywhere I'd rather go armed. Shotgun is good because I can carry anything from birdshot to slugs. Most importantly is going with a friend and keeping aware. IF something(s) get the jump on you, it's better to have a buddy willing and able to save your butt.
 
in my area of NC there is no real need to carry a long gun for defense in the woods. i do carry a sidearm or a good knife though. bears are pretty rare around here. the only real dangers are packed up yotes and two legged jerks who want to do harm
 
dougo83 said:
Agreed.

I do not have a family of my own, so you can take my thoughts for what they're worth, but I don't think one could provide for their family from a prison cell either. In fact, with a convict for an uncle, I know this to be truth. He can't/won't do jack for his kids.

You know my views here. Carried by 6 and judged by God. I'm ok with that. :) On that, I am gonna stop on this thread because it has gotten way off track.
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I'm a little curious as to how much time in a cage is worse than losing your life?
 
Simply put a rifle is a better survival tool. Granted it weighs more than a pistol, but it packs the punch (depending on caliber) to stop threats in their tracks. I carry a pistol daily, and still take it when I hike or camp.but I also take along a ranch rifle or long gun (bears, elk in the area).
 
I've been thinking about getting a Henry AR7 Survival rifle to pack along, but I'm not so sure it's that much better than a .22 handgun?
 
Reasoned1 said:
I've been thinking about getting a Henry AR7 Survival rifle to pack along, but I'm not so sure it's that much better than a .22 handgun?
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There should be a substantial increase in velocity with most ammo over most pistols. With the iron sights and increase in the sight radius you should gain some accuracy as well.
 
kvaughn said:
Spent a lot of time in Texas and Vermont? One would assume so from your tone of expertise.--KV
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Spent alot of time in Texas, yeah. Unfortunately haven't spent any time in Vermont. I wasn't aware tones could be conveyed over an internet forum, or that much expertise would be needed for such a statement? It's public information and a simple fact...
 
I have a hikers 12 gauge made specifically for backpacking. As for using a firearm to save your life, I had a mountie tell me straight out that when faced with a threat it is my legal obligation to to what I have to do to end the threat. Its written right in the Canadian charter of rights and freedoms and all federal, statutory and provincial laws are known as void when the charter is enacted upon....I am pretty sure its the same deal in the States.
 
Nowadays, I'm always hiking with 2 hunting dogs, offtrail, often in designated wilderness. I carry a rifle, whether it's hunting season or not, as practice for when it is deer season. After carrying around 10lb rifles on practice hikes all year, a 4 or 5 lb shotgun seems weightless for upland bird.:)

Are you telling me people actually hike without guns?!:confused:

Pistols are fun, cause they leave your hands free for climbing over bad "hiking" terrain you shouldn't be on. My dogs can now climb like monkeys.

Try walking out the door with your pack and a rifle, and leaving your Labs behind. That'd spark a mutiny.
When mine get way out of pocket, they are accustomed to being recalled by the sound of +P .38

They love gunfire, and are attracted to it. God, it makes me so proud.:rolleyes:


On a more serious note, I'm always unpleasantly surprised when I see people in the desert w/o any guns. It's d@mn imprudent.
 
My hunting buddies Gordon Setters are exactly as you describe yours ... they (literally) piss themselves with excitement upon hearing gunfire as we get out to hunt pheasants. They are more excited than we are to be hunting...and we are stoked!
 
From my experience and interaction with alot of people I have found that thoe who feel they need to carry a gun are far to eager to use them. Now weather or not to hike with a rifle depends largly on where you are hiking. In the yukon solo or up in Alaska or somewhere way off the beaten path I can understand carrying a rifle. I think that should be a 30 cal or larger and a bolt action or a 12ga shotgun. Not a SCAR with a supressor. I see and hear of guys hiking 2 miles away from cities with more firepower then what I carried in Iraq or Afghanistan.
As far as needing a gun for the two legged creatures, I agree in some areas it is far more safer to carry a weapon then to not. This is why I avoid those areas. I see videos of people all the time of people gearing up for the AT and packing a hand gun. There have been 9 murders in the last 38 years on the AT, I don't feel that justifies carrying a weapon. Another problem I feel is prevelent is that far to many people who carry weapons either dont know how to use them and or are not mature enough to use them. I am sorry but a 3 day CCW class is not enough training to carry and employ a weapon properly.

I know I am going to get heat fro this but it's just my $.02.

I have carried weapons and used them for both defence and offence for many years and have no problem not carrying a weapon and feeling perfectly safe. I simply practice good situational awareness and keep my family and myself out of dangerious enviorments and situations.
 
PayetteRucker said:
Spent alot of time in Texas, yeah. Unfortunately haven't spent any time in Vermont. I wasn't aware tones could be conveyed over an internet forum, or that much expertise would be needed for such a statement? It's public information and a simple fact...
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Having been born and raised in Tx I find your blanket phraseology and self imagined factual expertise about most everything grating, to be courteous about it. Any one with a basic grasp of vocabulary can very well convey and understand a conversational tone in an internet forum--Have a nice day--KV
 
roughneckrob said:
I have a hikers 12 gauge made specifically for backpacking. As for using a firearm to save your life, I had a mountie tell me straight out that when faced with a threat it is my legal obligation to to what I have to do to end the threat. Its written right in the Canadian charter of rights and freedoms and all federal, statutory and provincial laws are known as void when the charter is enacted upon....I am pretty sure its the same deal in the States.
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I'm sorry, but that's a friggin' joke--that philosophy doesn't jive very well with their systematically taking the means of actually doing something away from you.
 
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