Himalayan imports are customs and need their own for sale section

Nasty said:
HI only, I'd support...mixed to anything remotely Khukuri-like and it would be a pain to mod and say what belongs and what doesn't. Rules would have to established...what's allowed and what's not...are they allowed to advertise the sale in the other forums...are they allowed to advertise an item for sale on another forum or ebay...who is allowed and who is not...etc...

I don't want to be called on constantly to make the calls on my own.

Also to be considered is what Yangdu says...such second-hand sales would effectively compete with her sales. Who's to say that I don't shark an item one day and offer it for a healthy profit the next?

Gotta all be thought through.
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It should be Hi only just like the Buck SF. As far as rules go they should be the exact same as for the other sale forums. Why should Hi sellers/buyers get special rules?

Also to be considered is what Yangdu says...such second-hand sales would effectively compete with her sales.
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Does she pay a dealer membership here, I may have missed it but I don't remember seeing her selling in the dealer section. Even if she is, the sale forums are for individuals to sell in. There should be absolutly no consideration given to how "private sales affect the company. I have not seen Hi dirict sell on these forums so there is no compitition any way. If they are dirict selling it should be done in the Dealers area and the for sale / for trade by individual areas don't come into play as that is for individual sales.

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Actually I was wrong. Hi does dirict sell on here, just not in a sale forum. This is a thread started by Yangdo. http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=450783

Hey Couger does Hi have special rules where their Company owner / forum moderator can dirict sell on their forum?
 
Yangdu has almost daily sales...and sometimes multiple sales each day.

I wasn't asking about or for special rules...simply that whatever the usual and customary rules are for any such private sales be specified upon initiation of the proposed forum so everyone sees them before issues arise.
 
Micky, HI has long had an understanding with BF about offering deals a few times a week. IIRC, it dates back to '99. So yes, Yangdu does have the go-ahead with BF management. Also, I'm pretty sure Cougar can read normal sized text.
If the rest of the HI cantina is on board, then so am I...as long as it does not take from Yangdu's pocket. There is a difference between someone grabbing a rare one of a kind and turning it around for a profit or simply having too much to store, and a business woman whose sales directly feed the mouths of some of the worlds poorest people. The slipperly slope of this worries me a bit, but I think that it could work just fine:)

Jake
 
I would hope a vigorous secondary market would make people more inclined to buy from HI, knowing they can turn around and get most of their money back any time they want.

The forum would be in the Exchange section with a shortcut to it appearing as a sub-forum inside the HI forum, just like the Buck for-sale forum.

I think it would have to be for HI stuff only, whether it's a khukuri or not, and not for selling khukuris from other companies.
 
I am sure Cougar can read normal size print also, i wanted it to get his attention so as not to be passed by as he caught up with the posts after it.

a business woman whose sales directly feed the mouths of some of the worlds poorest people.
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So Hi is a nonprofit then, and dosn't make money as a company? Is this what you are saying. If so please point me in the diriction of their financials, if they look good I would make a donation. On the other hand if they employ these people there by giving them jobs then she is running a business like anyone else. Yes the area is comprised of poor people and work is good but its still a business which means it needs to turn a profit. If this is the case it should have to follow the same rules on here as any other Company.

The rest was removed because after digging through the archives and reading alot of Uncle Bills posts I realised it was inappropiate
 
All the manufacturer's forums here serve to promote and sell their knives, and several of them sell direct to the members on the forums. HI only sells direct, never through dealers.

Mickey, you can find out about HI and what they do on the HI forum better than here. This thread has a different purpose.
 
Point taken
I was mearly responding to the post I quoted. I am in favor of a seperate forum for individual Hi sales also as it would make it easier for people to see not only what is for sale but the amazing craftsmanship and individuality that goes into each knife. I also think it would draw more attention to their product and broaden more peoples awareness of this style of knife thereby increasing interest in it.

I am not against companys selling in their forums, I guess what chafed me the wrong way was the suggestion that if a forum was created for the individual sale / trading of Hi products it would cut into Company sales, and that this should matter.

If the company has a good and loyal following, individual sales should only help to promote the companys product as it is easier to find, and their would be enough examples that non Khuk owners might see something that intrigues them at a good price and buy it. Maby they have heard of Khukuris but never really knew what they are. Hopefully it draws in some new customers to the company from those who see something interesting, purchase it and decide they like it.

I guess all this really boils down to is just another Gold or better vote for a seperate sub-forum for individual Hi sales and trades.
 
I'm willing to give it a try, if it were strictly for HI products. As was mentioned previously, having mixed products would make it a nightmare to moderate.
 
Very good point that this section in fact adds to their being better known, again it should not effect HI sales as some people will buy direct anyways, but to be clear HI offers blems or specials, to buy from the company you go to the company web site.

The ones that people would sell often to get money to buy other models would not take away from anyone since they are often a model not being offered as a special. It would be rare that two of the same style Khukuri are offered at the same time by the HI specials and a private seller and if so hopefully there is more than one buyer looking.
 
I'd be happy with either an HI forum or one for Busse. Considering the amount of Busses for sale, I think moving them to their own subforum would cut the traffic to a much more mangeable level on the general for sale forum.

Either way, I trust the wisdon of the BF management team. They've built up a great sight and I'm sure they have a great desire to keep it that way.
 
I will kick in a vote for a separate HI sales/trade forum.:thumbup: I think it would very well.
I also think that the Busse sales forum would be a good idea also.
 
M. Taylor said:
I'd be happy with either an HI forum or one for Busse. Considering the amount of Busses for sale, I think moving them to their own subforum would cut the traffic to a much more mangeable level on the general for sale forum.

Either way, I trust the wisdon of the BF management team. They've built up a great sight and I'm sure they have a great desire to keep it that way.
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One should have no bearing on the other. Busse is a production knife and is sold in that sale forum. Hi Khuks are individually hand crafted. This makes them custom dosn't it. they would be sold in the custom for sale forum then. So Busse listings would have no affect on Hi listings being pushed off the page. You are comparing apples to oranges.
 
And I think balisongs need their own special Sale/Trade forum too.

And I'm sure that every other subset of bf.c thinks they should have one too.

We have a very nice search feature here at bf.c. It takes only a few seconds to search for recent posts in the Exchange forums containing "HI" or "Himalayan imports." The system will make you a nice list that's almost like having your own forum.
 
as stated in another thread

Maybe a compromise could work.
1. create a busse sale forum – I think most have agreed
2. allow HI items to be sold either in the custom forum or as a
sub-set of the cantina
3. if 2. is agreed then make a few announcements on where the HI items can be found

That could work and certainly improve the ways things are now.
 
1. create a busse sale forum – I think most have agreed
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Busse sellers have not asked for this why is everyone trying to push it down our throats.

People selling Hi Khuks asked for a HI sub-forum

It has already been said it can't be a sub-forum of the Cantina, that if it happens it will be a sub-forum of either the individual production or custom forum depending on what class BF decides HI products fall into.

I love HI products, I love Busse knives, please stop bashing 1 in order to justify a sub-forum for the other.
 
Micky,

I don't think they are "bashing" Busse, sounds like folks just wants them out of the way. It is true, you cant go 5 sale threads without hitting a Busse, but how hard is it to just scroll to the next page.....is there a rule that you can only buy from page one?

I like the sales forum as is. I have bought blades I never would have found had everything been seperated. The current sales forum is what sparked my interest in HI....I never would have visited their forum had I not found one of their Blades in the Production Sales Forum.....I don't really visit the Custom, just because of the "Custom" price usually associated with pieces there.

I like the Sales Forum as is....I think that seperating the sales is just another way to keep folks from finding new products.....bad business.
 
Your point is understood, however for selling them its different. One thing to consider most people that sell them do so to buy other models for myself I have reached 100 HI items so I am selling now about 30 to 40 of them. I will buy more and over time as I can a lot more.
To sell you have to be seen and often you want to sell in a week or so. That could mean ebay which I think cheapens the product. But perhaps thats where all of mine should go....one other note these are customs they meet the criteria I think, so that issue should be cleared up going forward.

also I am not sure about HI not doing warrenty on second owners thats a good question for the forum.
 
HI has made it very clear they warrant their knives unconditionally and none of that "only for the original purchaser" copout.
 
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