Hinderer worth the price

I love these internet debates with all of the accompanying pontification. I own two XM 18's. They are worth every penny to me.

Just cause some guy on the internet decides it's a rip off at x amount dollars isn't going to make me question my purchase. You meed to get one and decide for yourself.

I don't think you'll lose money on it. If you don't like it you can always sell it. There are people lined up for days to get their hands on one.

Gee, I wonder why that might be? :rolleyes:
 
Not in my opinion. For that money, I'd buy and Emerson prodo and have it pimped with thicker liners or even a framelock. Or I'd see if I could snag an XM. :D

Or I'd get one of Michael Burch's upcoming mid-techs.
 
I'mGatMan! said:
Not in my opinion. For that money, I'd buy and Emerson prodo and have it pimped with thicker liners or even a framelock. Or I'd see if I could snag an XM. :D

Or I'd get one of Michael Burch's upcoming mid-techs.
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There are a lot of blades in or around that price range to pick from for sure. :thumbup:

Lots of choices.
 
I think they are worth $500-$550, Jim it's hard to believe you think the Strider SMFs are worth that but the better fit and finish and strength on the XM-18 is not... But you like what you like and I can respect that :cool:

Here are a few of my thoughts on the XM-18 :thumbup:

The review
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The inside of the XM-18
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Some pricing thoughts
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I'mGatMan! said:
Interesting.

You need to know that the XM-18 is one HELL of a knife. I would buy one at $600 over a strider at $300 any day. Better knife design, better fit and finish, and Rick's lockbar stabilizer is actually licensed by Strider for their knives.

The XM-18 is a highly desireable knife made in much lower quantities than Strider or ZT knives. Getting one from Rick is difficult unless you're a first responder or military. He can't make enough of them to satisfy his customers. THAT is why they demand a high premium on the secondary.

At table price the Gen III is the best knife buy on the market. At $600 it's still a good buy.
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Well said my friend, well said!!! :thumbup: :thumbup:
 
So-Lo said:
I think they are worth $500-$550, Jim it's hard to believe you think the Strider SMFs are worth that but the better fit and finish and strength on the XM-18 is not... But you like what you like and I can respect that :cool:
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With Strider they cost what they cost because Strider sets the price and that's how much they are, no real options there unless you get a used one.

With Hinderer you can can get one for a heck of a lot less than scalpers prices if you are willing to wait for it.

Personally I think they are well built knives, but they don't fit my hand at all and aren't comfortable to me. I had a chance to get more than one are very good prices but I just don't like them because of the fit.

But then I have had $2000 customs in my hand and didn't like them either because they didn't fit my hand well.

I am extremely picky about feel and comfort, more so that most I believe.
 
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The Hinderer really feels like a $400 knife! Love my Striders also but they seem a little overpriced!
 
I'm more partial to the ZT line of knives, Hinderer are fantastic knives...I wont deny that, but I have trouble shelling out over $150 (which is why I dont have a ZT yet) let alone $500 - $600. For that money their are other knives I would prefer solely from an aesthetic point of view, but hinderer have proven them self in the market as tough as nails knives with a niche that are buying them.
 
Jim,

I think the mistake you've made is stating that because you'd feel ripped off paying >$385, others therefore would get ripped off for doing so.

Ankerson said:
Exactly...

Get on a list and pay close to Rick's price...

Any more than that and you got riped off.

You could get a nice Custom made for those inflated prices they are going for and really have something.
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Now that's obviously not the case. There are many Hinderer owners that have paid more than the original price and are more than happy with their decision. Will the OP be happy at that price? I guess there's only one way to really find out.
 
Kaizen1 said:
Jim,

I think the mistake you've made is stating that because you'd feel ripped off paying >$385, others therefore would be ripped off for doing so.



Now that's obviously not the case. There are many Hinderer owners that have paid more than the original price and are more than happy with their decision. Will the OP be happy at that price? I guess there's only one way to really find out.
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I used to think the same way until I had a few of them in my hand then I changed my mind very fast.

But that's my opinion...

Although maybe an XM-24 might fit my hand better.
 
Ankerson said:
I used to think the same way until I had a few of them in my hand then I changed my mind very fast.

By that's my opinion...

Although maybe an XM-24 might fit my hand better.
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So it's your opinion that others got ripped off, even though they were happy to pay the premium, because you don't like the XM-18?:confused:
 
Kaizen1 said:
So it's your opinion that others got ripped off, even though they were happy to pay the premium, because you don't like the XM-18?:confused:
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I really don't believe it's worth the markup that some are getting for them when it's not a limited production model and it's got pretty normal steel now.

It's a production blade and more will continue to be made.

It's not like they made 1000 of them them and that's it, or even 2000....

Now if people are willing to pay that huge markup for a production blade then that is their choice.
 
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Kaizen1 said:
So it's your opinion that others got ripped off, even though they were happy to pay the premium, because you don't like the XM-18?:confused:
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Its an opinion, just because its not your opinion doesn't make his any less valid, though I did joke in the "is a sebenza worth it" what would happen if someone made one about hinderer knives LOL! :D...I would also touch on the XM-18 disappearing in my hand, I need something on the large spectrum handle wise.
 
Robert.B said:
Its an opinion, just because its not your opinion doesn't make his any less valid, though I did joke in the "is a sebenza worth it" what would happen if someone made one about hinderer knives LOL! :D...I would also touch on the XM-18 disappearing in my hand, I need something on the large spectrum handle wise.
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Yep, exactly. :D
 
Ankerson said:
I really don't believe it's worth the markup that some are getting for them when it's not a limited production model and it's got pretty normal steel now.

It's a production blade and more will continue to be made.
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Right, we've established that you personally don't think it's worth the mark up. It seems like your teetering between saying the XM-18 isn't worth say $500 and saying that it isn't worth buying it at some mark up regardless of the actual cost (which seems to be a matter of principle to you). Looking at your previous posts about Strider productions, you don't really have that same problem even though an SMF is priced at $500+ because Strider starts at those prices.

So would you be less antagonistic against an XM-18 selling for $500 if Rick sold them direct at that price? Fit, finish, consistency (personal ergos issues for you aside) of the XM-18s seem to be a general plus over Strider productions (I'm a fan of Striders).

Lastly, the question was, do you think others are getting ripped off simply because you personally don't think they're worth it- even if they honestly think they're worth the cost?
 
Kaizen1 said:
Right, we've established that you personally don't think it's worth the mark up. It seems like your teetering between saying the XM-18 isn't worth say $500 and saying that it isn't worth buying it at some mark up regardless of the actual cost (which seems to be a matter of principle to you). Looking at your previous posts about Strider productions, you don't really have that same problem even though an SMF is priced at $500+ because Strider starts at those prices.

So would you be less antagonistic against an XM-18 selling for $500 if Rick sold them direct at that price? Fit, finish, consistency (personal ergos issues for you aside) of the XM-18s seem to be a general plus over Strider productions (I'm a fan of Striders).

Lastly, the question was, do you think others are getting ripped off simply because you personally don't think they're worth it- even if they honestly think they're worth the cost?
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With Strider there isn't a choice like I said unless you get one used then they are cheaper.

One, I won't buy a knife that doesn't fit my hand at those prices, the reason I don't own an SnG, too small.

Yes it's a principal thing for me when I know they can be had cheaper than that $200+ markup for a production blade.......that is ridiculous.

I never said they aren't good knives, they are really good blades.

Yeah if Rick was selling the XM-24 direct for around $500 I would buy one, XM-18..... Never, too small...

I won't pay a huge markup when I can get a custom for around the same price.

I wouldn't pay the premuim on a Randall either if I wanted one, I would order from them and wait.
 
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Robert.B said:
Its an opinion, just because its not your opinion doesn't make his any less valid, though I did joke in the "is a sebenza worth it" what would happen if someone made one about hinderer knives LOL! :D...I would also touch on the XM-18 disappearing in my hand, I need something on the large spectrum handle wise.
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You seem to be missing the point of my posts. It's obvious that his posts are representative of his opinions and that we may have different opinions on the value of a given item. My question was if he is saying that others are getting ripped off because he personally doesn't like them. If so, I highly doubt that's a coherent position to take. If that's the case, he would implicitly be stating that his preferences are some objective measure of value and in violating his value system, the rest of the world be making mistakes. It's not a reasonable position to hold. Again, obviously regardless of what he's saying, it's his opinion.
 
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