Hobby Maker: Just finished 5th knife, W2 recurve fighter with Hamn, elk handle.

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Was not going to post another knife here until I had a lot more expereince but could not resist. I am pursuing this hobby in a vaccum, don't know any other "knife people" to share my work with.

Built this for a KITH in another forum but wanted to share it here since most of my knowlwdge was gleaned from this forum. In fact, the design of the knife was influenced by some of the recent WIPS here and by the work posted by Claudio Sobra, Hansen, Wheeler, RyanW, Lemee and others.

Edited addition: The KITH was for a fighter knife of any style that "...I will be afraid to be in the same room with". I took that as a license to try some styling and construction techniques on a single knife that I have not done before.


- Aldo's W2 steel with hamon. Should be about 58-60 rc hardness.
- The blade is 0.2 inch thick at the handle with a distill taper to the tip.
- 6 1/2 inch recurve blade. About 11 1/2 inches overall.
- Raised clip with false edge (but it could be sharpened)
- Forged to rough thickness and very, very rough shape from 3/8 inch stock. Stock removal from that point. I have rudimentary forging skills.
- Dyed elk antler handle with 416 SS finger guard and fittings. File worked brass spacer and brass pin throught the butt cap.
- The front washer (seppa?) is an antler tip cut at an angle at the curved portion of the antler tip. The original width and shape of the antler piece is preseverd. I did end up shaping the top and bottom slightly to get it to look right visually.
- The right handed sheath has 3 bi-directional loops that are riveted in place. I borrowed the bi-directional loop design from the Winkler II sheaths shown in last months Knives Illustrated. Each loop will take a 1 1/4 inch belt/strap either horizonally or vertically. The user should have lots of options for carry with this sheath.

This is my 5th completed knife. Lots of "firsts" for me on this knife, largest blade, true finger gaurd, butt cap, front spacer, etc. I spents lots of time during polishing trying to make sure my edges were "sharp" and not rounded over.

The design came out well but I made lots of "first time" mistakes. Got the not so bright idea to wrap the polished blade up with paper before taping it up for guard installation and shaping. I was worried about the glue from the tape messing up my polish on the hamon. Sometimes any tarnish left from etching is marred by the glue. I thought the paper under the tape would prevent this. It did but.... filings from shaping the guard got under the tape/paper and onto the blade. This resulted in very fine scrathes on the blade that could not be polished out. I only discovered this after removing the tape. Lesson learned. Tape well so nothing can get under the tape. The scratches are only visible at certain angles in direct light but it's a flaw I want to avoid in the future.

Likewise need to work on my filing precision. The spacer filing and finger guard slot are not up to standard. I think I've work out some things to try next time around on that score....

Anyway, I am pleased with the result, here she is:

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The knife profile has 2 straight lines that come together on the spine about 1/3 up the blade from the guard. I worked really hard when sanding to preserve the line from that intersection on the spine and to not round it over. Mostly successful. Forgot to take a top view pic of the spine to show that line... Will need daylight to take that photo.
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Was trying to get a shot of the antler piece used on the front washer in the pic below.
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The pic below shows the shaping of the butt cap. This was a bear to photograph, reflections or poor focus ruined all the shots. This is the best of about 20. The back of the butt cap has an upsaide down egg shape with two sweeping curves carved in the surface.
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Barry
 
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Very, very good for a 5th knife. Heck, even very good for a 50th knife. I'm not a fan of the spacer in front of the guard though. Excellent work, all in all.
 
Barry,
You took on a lot for your 5th knife, great work! You are working with things that I fight: Guards and Stag/Antler. The only things I would point out are purely aesthetic so I will leave them to myself. Sheath is a little out there for my taste. I like it!

Edit: Thanks for the Mention!
 
I sure like your styling and the workmanship looks darn good too. When you are able to "read" your own work, better knives will happen. Frank
 
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Excellent for the difficulty of the project. I am working on similar projects right now, and have made exactly the same mistakes- rounding when sanding, difficulty filing the guard to a perfect fit.
 
Everyone thanks for your remarks.

Ryan - thanks for all your WIP postings, very helpfull and inspiring for us newer makers. For me, the WIPS are more helpfull than books or videos. Folks ask questions duiring WIPS, usually the same one I was thinking.... Likewise the forum gives you a place to research question while reading the WIP.

Can anyone explain what Frank means by top "reading" my own knives? Maybe Frank will chime back in.

Barry
 
Barry, as it's been said, awesome knife for a 5th. :thumbup: I really like that you are trying some different things, design wise, and even if they may not blend perfectly together for now, it is only a question of time. I would bet good money that you will go far.

Please never be afraid to post and you DO know a lot of knifemakers, us.

PS: Like Ryan said, thanks for the mention. Glad you liked my WIPs even if they are not the most technical.
 
Thanks again everyone for the comments.

Patrice - thanks again too for your WIPS. I found the design and changes you made during construction on the Kuhkri knife to be just right. The tech level was just right too. I am also extremely jealous of your shop....

All - I have edited the first post to include the design criteria for the KITH this knife was built for. The KITH was for a fighter of any style that "...I will be afraid to be in the same room with". I took that as a license to try some styling and construction techniques on a single knife that I have not done before.


Barry
 
Awesome work! Love the composition and shape, the case is awesome. Keep posting looking forward to seeing more of your work.
 
Ballewblade,

Yes, treated it myself. First blade with Aldo's W2 and using parks 50. I was amazed at the activity I got in the hamon vs the 1095 and canola oil I used on previous blades. Want to make a hunter in 1095 soon to see if I can get similar activity with it using parks 50.

All - Thanks for the comments.
 
Well, when I say "read your own work" I see a lot of good craftsmanship in what you have done, but unfortunately you have gone ahead when there were many things you might have corrected as you progressed. Did you see them and not stop, or did you miss them? Usually the maker doesn't see them and often is even surprised when someone points them out; sometimes the maker sees them but passes them by. I think with more experience will be doing some outstanding work. Don't let people turn you away from the artistic looking knife. In the end, it's not what it's made of or how it's made but how good is it for the function it was made for. Frank
 
Thanks Frank,

When you said "top read your own work", I zeroed in on the word top. After some thought, I had figured you meant the top profile did not follow a continuous line/curve from tip to butt. I've corrected that on the knives since.

Now with your explanation, well sorry for the confusion. AND thanks for the input, the comments are understood, fair, and well taken.

Barry
 
That's incredible work, especially for your fifth knife! I love the blade shape and the hamon is great. I too just recently got some parks 50 and have only used it with one knife so far which I'm still working on right now, in some of Aldos 1095, but I can tell already that there's some very nice ashi lines in the hamon and I havn't began to etch or polish it yet. I have a question, when did you get the W2 steel from Aldo? I ask because of the recent bad batch of W2 that Aldo got from his supplier that won't harden, so I'm curious to know if this knife happens to be from some of that batch.. Again, awesome job man! :)

Paul
 
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