Holy crap it's for sale!!!

Well, I wish there was such a re-production because I'd bid on that.

I was wrong too, never knew there was a golden dagger in the tomb, all I ever saw was the meteorite dagger, THAT was unique, gold not so much...those tombs, not just Tut's, were just piles of golden objects, solid, or plated, gilded or leaved, so much gold that it was something to see artifacts which were NOT golden in some way.

Do you know anybody who works in meteorite metals ? If so, I'd like such a blade, and would use it, to see how it is regarding toughness, edge retention, and corrosion resistance.

Glad to have found this Forum, there are no questions that cannot be competently answered. I found it via Dr. Thomas' writings.
 
SimplyMinded said:
I'm not sure this knife was age appropriate for a Boy King.
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He wasn't actually a boy, died when he was ~20 years old, quite possibly by a chariot wreck at "speed", his bone damage is commensurate with what we see today, in car wrecks, at chariot speeds, and he did drive his own chariots, some of them were in his tomb, he led an active outdoor lifestyle.

You're right though, such a fine knife for a young man, such a fine knife, one-of-a-kind, to this day. Such is the life of Royalty, to this day.
 
not2sharp said:
He was a teenager when he died. Was Budk around back then?;)

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He gave his life for tourism.....King Tut...
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The Warenski knife was never intended to be an accurate representation of the Tut dagger. It was a tribute blade, and required Warenski to relearn lost skills, such as a technique for casting the gold that didn't result in brittleness, and the surface granulation techniques used on the handle. It is truly a piece of modern art for the ages, and is worth whatever someone is willing to pay. In my opinion, it is as priceless as the original Tut dagger, and should be in a museum somewhere.
 
As I recall Jim Hrisoulas would make blades with at least partially meteoric metal. As was mentioned there were two daggers in King Tut's tomb although sure as the world if you mention that one was a functional dagger and some numbskull would say it wasn't really functional because you couldn't baton papyrus with it.

I'd always understood that Tut suffered from multiple physical congenital disabilities (Egyptian. royalty was a bit inbred due to their penchant for marriage between brothers and sisters) along with malarial effects etc. He wasn't a Ramses for sure.
 
Arathol said:
He gave his life for tourism.....King Tut...
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Actually, none of the tombs were made with an eye towards tourism...tourists complain about the narrow corridors, lack of air, lack of air-conditioning (it's hot) in the Great Pyramid at Giza, ~3feet wide, ~4 feet tall. These structures were never meant to be entered again, after the workers were gone, the Pharaoh entombed, and the tomb was sealed.

Steve Martin would have likely experienced the meteorite dagger, had "Tut" seen his funny act...looks more like a Bandido, wearing bandoliers for, say, a Colt Single Action Army, along with a belt carrying the same cartridges.
 
Iowa Boy said:
Actually, none of the tombs were made with an eye towards tourism...tourists complain about the narrow corridors, lack of air, lack of air-conditioning (it's hot) in the Great Pyramid at Giza, ~3feet wide, ~4 feet tall. These structures were never meant to be entered again, after the workers were gone, the Pharaoh entombed, and the tomb was sealed.

Steve Martin would have likely experienced the meteorite dagger, had "Tut" seen his funny act...looks more like a Bandido, wearing bandoliers for, say, a Colt Single Action Army, along with a belt carrying the same cartridges.
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Triton said:
As I recall Jim Hrisoulas would make blades with at least partially meteoric metal. As was mentioned there were two daggers in King Tut's tomb although sure as the world if you mention that one was a functional dagger and some numbskull would say it wasn't really functional because you couldn't baton papyrus with it.

I'd always understood that Tut suffered from multiple physical congenital disabilities (Egyptian. royalty was a bit inbred due to their penchant for marriage between brothers and sisters) along with malarial effects etc. He wasn't a Ramses for sure.
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Yes, that's a fact. Of the Ramses, only Ramses II was "great", Tut's dad was Akhenaten, his Mother may have been Nefertiti, and yes Tut married his sister, half-sister anyway, a girl by the name of Ankhesenamun......

How can I get in contact with Jim Hrisoulas ? Meteorite metals are not easy to obtain, there are people who collect these things, they trade amongst themselves as collectors, but the one's I've talked to, are not willing to sell, if the fate of their meteorite is going to be a knife blade. I see their point, but.....

Do you have a Hrisoulas meteorite blade ?
 
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I get you, Arathol, and my favorite cartoon was Foghorn Leghorn.

I'm a retired engineer, Electro Optics as it's called today, Light Amplification Stimulated Emission Radiation, known today as LASER, was my thing. So, after an 8 year dose of Quantum Electrodynamics and Quantum Chromodynamics, at the University of Iowa, and a 30 year stint in the field as a job, my specialty was atmospheric propagation of such beams, I have about the same sense of humor as in your "No ma'am" video. It's funny, I can easily laugh at myself, and laugh because it's both funny, and true.

In any case, I want meteorite knife blade.
 
Iowa Boy said:
He wasn't actually a boy, died when he was ~20 years old, quite possibly by a chariot wreck at "speed", his bone damage is commensurate with what we see today, in car wrecks, at chariot speeds, and he did drive his own chariots, some of them were in his tomb, he led an active outdoor lifestyle.

You're right though, such a fine knife for a young man, such a fine knife, one-of-a-kind, to this day. Such is the life of Royalty, to this day.
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From the sounds of this he wasn't exactly prancing about outside. He was all kinds of messed up due to inbreeding.
www.scientificamerican.com

Tutankhamen's Familial DNA Tells Tale of Boy Pharaoh's Disease and Incest

New insight into the fragile pharaoh's family tree shows intrafamilial marriage, and royal lives cursed by malarial infections and bodily defects
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Iowa Boy said:
Yes, that's a fact. Of the Ramses, only Ramses II was "great", Tut's dad was Akhenaten, his Mother may have been Nefertiti, and yes Tut married his sister, half-sister anyway, a girl by the name of Ankhesenamun......

How can I get in contact with Jim Hrisoulas ? Meteorite metals are not easy to obtain, there are people who collect these things, they trade amongst themselves as collectors, but the one's I've talked to, are not willing to sell, if the fate of their meteorite is going to be a knife blade. I see their point, but.....

Do you have a Hrisoulas meteorite blade ?
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You can (maybe) reach out to Jim Hrisoulas here: https://www.atar.com/

It looks like he's still doing stuff with meteoric iron at least according to the rudimentary front page. How much is actually meteorite I couldn't pretend to say.

I've only ever owned one Hrisoulas blade, a short sword (mono steel blade) that I ended up foolishly selling years ago. I'm not sure if he would actually take a custom commission anymore, he basically just makes stuff and sells it. I suppose if the price was right maybe he would reconsider. It doesn't hurt to ask...
 
From what I understand, working with meteoric iron is quite difficult, because of its highly crystalline nature. It doesn't anneal well, and tends to crumble if worked too cool. And, by itself, it's not a good blade material. Chris Peterson is another smith who used meteoric iron.
 
Iowa Boy said:
I get you, Arathol, and my favorite cartoon was Foghorn Leghorn.

I'm a retired engineer, Electro Optics as it's called today, Light Amplification Stimulated Emission Radiation, known today as LASER, was my thing. So, after an 8 year dose of Quantum Electrodynamics and Quantum Chromodynamics, at the University of Iowa, and a 30 year stint in the field as a job, my specialty was atmospheric propagation of such beams, I have about the same sense of humor as in your "No ma'am" video. It's funny, I can easily laugh at myself, and laugh because it's both funny, and true.

In any case, I want meteorite knife blade.
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Meteoric iron is high in nickel content, with small amounts of cobalt and other elements which will affect the character of a blade made from it. On the few occasions I've seen meteoric iron used in a knife blade, it's been folded into a pattern along with steel or used in a similarly ornamental fashion, not as a pure blade material. Haven't looked into it though, I'm sure it's been done by someone.

Iron meteorites are for sale on the internet. You should obtain a suitable meteorite from a reputable source, and then seek a skilled bladesmith who can forge the iron meteorite into a blade. You'll want to find someone who's familiar with the subtle affects of heat cycles and has experience with careful forging, work-hardening, etc.

Then you'll have a true meteoric iron knife like something from the ancient past.
 
Mecha said:
Meteoric iron is high in nickel content, with small amounts of cobalt and other elements which will affect the character of a blade made from it. On the few occasions I've seen meteoric iron used in a knife blade, it's been folded into a pattern along with steel or used in a similarly ornamental fashion, not as a pure blade material. Haven't looked into it though, I'm sure it's been done by someone.

Iron meteorites are for sale on the internet. You should obtain a suitable meteorite from a reputable source, and then seek a skilled bladesmith who can forge the iron meteorite into a blade. You'll want to find someone who's familiar with the subtle affects of heat cycles and has experience with careful forging, work-hardening, etc.

Then you'll have a true meteoric iron knife like something from the ancient past.
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Thanks for your insight into this subject, you are a bladesmith. Questions for you...

Could a person melt the meteorite, and other metals, to form an actual functional alloy suitable for a blade ?

Do you have any interest in such a project ?

Do you ever use alloys containing Nickel and/or Cobalt in your works.
 
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Iowa Boy said:
Thanks for your insight into this subject, you are a bladesmith. Questions for you...

Could a person melt the meteorite, and other metals, to form an actual functional alloy suitable for a blade ?

Do you have any interest in such a project ?

Do you ever use alloys containing Nickel and/or Cobalt in your works.
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I work with titanium alloys almost exclusively, but can think of a few people who would likely succeed in making such an iron blade. If it was me, and this is just my own opinion, I'd send a meteorite to hellize hellize and ask him if he would like to shape it into a pure meteorite blade. He's in Transylvania, I believe.

If you melt the iron meteorite and mix it with other metals into an ingot, I think that would make the entire thing kind of pointless. Then you wouldn't know what it's like to have and use a meteorite knife. It would just be a steel knife with some meteoric iron in it.

I think a pure meteorite blade would be just fine for various normal everyday knife tasks.
 
Thanks again Mecha...Yes I do want a pure meteorite blade, just didn't know if it was physically possible, while at the same time being useful. I use my knives, retired now and the Missus and me spend our time in the field, looking for "bones & stones", or on the oceans, sailing our boat (Hallberg-Rassy 64 )...

How is Titanium for use onboard a bluewater cruising ( Category A, Ocean Unlimited ) vessel, or fossil hunting in the swamps of Florida ? I'd like to see your blade offerings...and will contact Hellize.

What sold you on Titanium ?
 
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