How about a Camp knife challenge ?

How about scoring?

10 scale for each category with the most total points at the end the victor?

Ranking each blade 1-however many there are, lowest overall score wins? (Or, conversely, highest total score wins, or best avg. score, etc.)

Averages from 1-10 scale?
 
Before selecting the criteria I think we need to agree upon a tester and if he/she is willing to do the testing then we should ask them exactly what would be feasible for them to do !
 
*raises hand*

So.....what about the makers who front the money to make this knife and then have it sent in and then "lose?" The knife will be beaten and given 20 lashings thus making it have a "non-sellable" type of condition. Would the cost of time/materials just be the entry fee for the makers?

Should we sell/buy the knives that didn't "win" and auction the overall winner? :confused:

Just curious, J.
 
*raises hand*

So.....what about the makers who front the money to make this knife and then have it sent in and then "lose?" The knife will be beaten and given 20 lashings thus making it have a "non-sellable" type of condition. Would the cost of time/materials just be the entry fee for the makers?

Should we sell/buy the knives that didn't "win" and auction the overall winner? :confused:

Just curious, J.

Anytime a maker sends a knife for reviewing or on a passaround, the knives get beat. I don`t know about anyone else, but I would not expect to get any pay out of this, to me it`s all for fun. You can always refurbish the knife afterwards.
 
Anytime a maker sends a knife for reviewing or on a passaround, the knives get beat. I don`t know about anyone else, but I would not expect to get any pay out of this, to me it`s all for fun. You can always refurbish the knife afterwards.

I'm with Stomper on this one. If I send a knife in for reviewing, I don't expect to get it back in selling condition. Perhaps make it a "pass around" blade or "give away". Refurbishing is another option.... but it would sell as a "previously loved" piece, for sure.


I think as a tie-breaker, the testers should knife fight to first blood..... just a suggestion.:thumbup:



Rick
 
I would be in for this, but I'm with a few other makers in the opinion of I think every maker/person has there own idea of what a camp knife is and should make what they think is a "Camp Knife". Through the years the term "camp knife" has been used for many different style knives.

As of right now It looks like this is just kicking around ideas though.

Matt
ML Knives
http://www.mlknives.com
 
I'll more than happily donate a blade. That is, if you think I'm worthy to swing with the big boys here.
 
From what I`ve read in the reviews of your passaround knife I think you are ready.

Dhanke, John. I appreciate it.

Although it will be a load of fun for whoever gets to play with all these knives, I almost think we should do something for the lucky guy who takes the large amount of time to take pictures and review this many knives.

Let him keep his favorite?
 
Dhanke, John. I appreciate it.

Although it will be a load of fun for whoever gets to play with all these knives, I almost think we should do something for the lucky guy who takes the large amount of time to take pictures and review this many knives.

Let him keep his favorite?

He will only test and review the final six eh ?!!;)
 
He will only test and review the final six eh

I think they all need to be tested. It is a learning experience for the makers as well. I don't think it would be fair if only 6 were voted on based on pictures. If a maker is willing to pony up and have his knife beat on then I think it needs to be included in the testing.

I think that is one of the biggest dilemas, finding someone to test all the knives and do a write up on them. Just my opinion.

Paul
 
Quickly, down a list:

1: While I actually like the idea of pitdog doing it, I suggested tonym and big mike organizing a field test because there's a fair number of people out that way where the states are the size of small counties :) Any other high concentration area would work. The important part is that a broad selection of hands and brains will lead to a much broader scoring opportunity. This is important for a number of reasons, including

2: Just having a winner is probably not enough. If it was a small head to head challenge in a single task, it would be easy. This is a broad area nad it makes sense to go the "reviewer route" and divide things up a bit:

Overall points winner, Chief tester 1(or team 1) fave, Chief tester 2(or team 2) fave, best in each category, and a couple or three wildcard slots (you get the testers together and come to a concensus on what those are after testing is done. That way if everyone feels a given knife was an overall winner even though the points total didn't indicate, you can get the judgement out there without having to muck with tallies).

2.5 Thing is, pretty much any of these knives, barring a catastrophic issue with material failure, is going to be SOMEONE's favorite. One of the reasons we don't all carry opinel #8s is that we all like different things. To reflect that, you need a broad range of judgements- it's not like it costs anything extra, no one is minting sterling silver medals.

3: Then, once you've got all the tallies done, you can have a raffle, or a drawing, or a blanket trade, or straight up sell the blades. They will be used, but this is sounding like a regular usage testing setup, not a destruction or limit testing.
 
This looks like its gonna be good, might even make one just for the hell of it.:thumbup:
 
There should definitely be no destructive testing, beating concrete blocks etc is pointless and does not reflect our actual needs around a camp, my plan was that the makers receive their knives back in such a condition that they require but a quick sharpen before they are able to sell them on !

Testing all the knives would be awesome but with the interest so far generated I can't see how this can realistically be done as the tester would have a huge shipping bill sending them all back. This is why I figured we could vote to narrow them down to a final 6 based on a visual assessment of what we would like to see go through...not ideal, I know but what can you do ?

One tester that I had in mind and previously mentioned, Brian Andrews, has said that he would be willing to do the tests providing he can be honest with the feedback...good or bad !
Brian knows his stuff when it comes to knife design and function ( I doubt anyone here would debate that ), his photo's are great and he is well respected and trusted on this forum.
I'll be totally honest here and say that this has roller coasted far more than I ever imagined and I now feel outta my depth ( I always come up with these crazy ideas!) so if anyone that has more experience in arranging this kinda thing knows what direction to take next then please go ahead and get some wheels in motion !
 
Here is what I suggest,

1. No rules, each makers makes what they consider a camp knife and submit for testing.

2. The tester will come up with 3 tests, to be decided later.
a. camp food prep
b. wood fire prep
c. Cutting ability

3. Maker will send knife in USPS Priority Mail box with return postage label, if they want it back.

4. Someone will figure out the charity raffle thing if they want.

5. All knives must be in testers hands by September 16, middle of the week middle of the month.

Maker email to Pitdog, if they are in
 
A charity raffle or auction of the knives would be a great thing. I'm already interested n these blades, just seeing the knifemakers who might be involved.
 
I would be in for this, but I'm with a few other makers in the opinion of I think every maker/person has there own idea of what a camp knife is and should make what they think is a "Camp Knife". Through the years the term "camp knife" has been used for many different style knives.

As of right now It looks like this is just kicking around ideas though.

Matt
ML Knives
http://www.mlknives.com

I agree with Matt on this one.
Scott
 
I think this is a great idea. I understand pitdog's concern about shipping costs at the end of the challenge, it would be cool if we could defray those costs by using paypal or a raffle etc... . I would really like to see all the submitted knives be evaluated. I think the knives should be judged with very loose rules and the winner should be the knife that is the best all around knife "jack of all trades master of none.":)
 
This is going to be one of the coolest things I've seen come along on ANY forum in a long time. NO destructive BS, but what knives are intented for. Good on ya Pit!!!
 
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