How bad is my batch ?

And there you go, taking the word of people who have plainly lied to you about the effectiveness of the vaccine.
They told you that if you got the vaccine, you could not get Covid. Plainly, a lie.
Then they told you that if you got the vaccine, you could not spread Covid. Plainly, another lie.
So now they tell you that this person is spreading misinformation. And you believe them.

Hey, I got a bridge for sale.
 
A good friend (also here on BF though usually to busy to play) is a dept. Head @ Johns Hopkins hospital in Balto.

He says the body count is real and speaks for itself. Better since the vaccine, but since we're human, not perfect.

Even though he was vaxxed and boosted he got covid, said the severity was lessened compared to many of his non-vaxxed patients due to the former.

Not hearsay, he and his wife are both MDs and have lived this daily for almost three years. Watching people die way more than usual is very unplesant for them, and they are very grateful for medical science. Not so grateful for people willing to play 'stupid doctor' with people lives.
 
And there you go, taking the word of people who have plainly lied to you about the effectiveness of the vaccine.
They told you that if you got the vaccine, you could not get Covid. Plainly, a lie.
Then they told you that if you got the vaccine, you could not spread Covid. Plainly, another lie.
So now they tell you that this person is spreading misinformation. And you believe them.

Hey, I got a bridge for sale.
"They" never told me any of that.
 
My doctor, (the person I take medical advice from) told me that the vaccine will lesson the impact of the virus symptoms.
Also told me that people are going to be effected in different ways as we all have our own set of specifics that could react differently or just not at all.
Even told me that the vaccine will not be the end of Covid but will help our healthcare system balance, so doctors can treat infected people while still treating those who already have problems other than covid. I was not ever told that the vaccine was a single item fix. I was told that it is one measure along with some other basic ones like washing hands multiple times a day, keep hands away from face, shop less frequently, plan outings to minimise exposure, like early shopping in higher risk settings and stay home if even feeling a little bit off.
I trust my doctors. I have put my life in their hands more than once in the past as that is what I do when I need a doctor. I never understood how people are drawn towards those discredited by actual trusted/respected by peers scientists and doctors 🤷‍♂️
 
In the event, that there is somebody here whom hasn't watched this yet, and may perhaps benefit from playing Russian roulette- injecting 1 of their precious children with a future booster, I highly recommend watching this very compelling, powerful movie, "Anecdotals," which FYI:
Consists of the very people/patients who listened to the so called "FOLLOW THE SCIENCE" experts & willingly injected 1 these highly questionable jabs/toxins (with absolutely zero studies on possible harmful negative side effects), and now sadly regret, having done so. So truly tragic.... and most of all, so preventable, had these people exercised some reservation, and basic common sense. When the true number's do finally begin to emerge, the jab injured/death toll, will be staggering! This is a modern day, Holocaust. A conspiracy of pure Evil, beyond any and all imagination.


What I find most bewildering to the 10x, is how easily it was for a certain segment of our population, to be so easily misguided/manipulated.....to the point most were gleeful and boasting, that they injected 1 of these 4 experimental formula's (for a man made bio weapon) into their otherwise healthy bodies, and not even knowing what was in these highly toxic formulas. Even worse, making the reckless decisions, allowing their OWN children, to be used as test subjects by Big Pharma and corrupt officials/politicians.

And now that the facts/truth is finally beginning to emerge (despite every effort to censor the truth by MSM/social media/Gov't)...these very same people, are still, willing to double/triple/quadruple down, on their supreme indignation, and will never admit, that they are plain and simple: wrong.

The main cause of C-19 deaths:
1. Comorbidities/pre-existing conditions
2. FDA ceasing/banning the use of early treatment (with drugs that had clearly been proven to work and had been on the market for decades- (unlike these spike protein jabs).

2 things that I've learned throughout this never ending Scamdemic:
1. "You can't fix stupid"
2. " And some people you just can't reach"

^^^ Instead of listening to all of your Doctor friend's/so called experts, LOL... maybe you should just try listening to the many of the Doctor's in this Docu who attended and spoke at the Senate sub-committee hearing regarding the senseless censorship and corruption going on behind the scenes and at their very Hospitals.

The Truth, WILL prevail.....
 
FWIW: My primary Heath Care physician at the VA Health Center located in La Jolla, urged me to double jab one of these experimental whatever they are..... back in 21, & in retrospect, I'm so proud to say, that not only did I refuse his offer, but I'm so extremely healthy and my body is fit for doing so.
 
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^^ This is the absolutely insane, Science (medical tyranny/censorship), that our Physicians here in California were threatened/mandated to follow, or face losing their ability to continue practicing here.

Fortunately, A court just recently granted the motion for preliminary injunction in the case that meant physicians could lose their license for talking about Covid-19:
https://nclalegal.org/2023/01/califo...oring-doctors/

The New Civil Liberties Alliance, a nonpartisan, nonprofit civil rights group, represents five physicians licensed by the Medical Board of California. Drs. Høeg, Duriseti, Kheriaty, Mazolewski, and Khatibi alleged violations of their First Amendment rights to free speech and expression and their Fourteenth Amendment rights to due process of law. At oral argument on Monday, January 23, NCLA argued the term “contemporary scientific consensus” is undefined in the law and undefinable as a matter of logic. No one can know, at any given time, the “consensus” of doctors and scientists on various matters related to the prevention and treatment of Covid-19. Judge Shubb agreed with this analysis, stating, “COVID-19 is such a new and evolving area of scientific study, it may be hard to determine which scientific conclusions are ‘false’ at a given point in time.” Because he ruled in favor of Plaintiffs’ Fourteenth Amendment arguments, he did not reach the First Amendment arguments.

Plaintiffs attested that they could not communicate freely with patients, nor treat them properly, according to their best judgment, when they feared being reported and potentially subject to discipline for giving a patient advice that departs from a supposed “scientific consensus.” The very concept of “scientific consensus” is problematic and represents a misunderstanding of the scientific process. As Judge Shubb recognized, “COVID-19 [is] a disease that scientists have only been studying for a few years, and about which scientific conclusions have been hotly contested. COVID-19 is a quickly evolving area of science that in many aspects eludes consensus.

NCLA released the following statements:

“NCLA is gratified Judge Shubb has recognized that AB 2098, which seeks to punish California doctors for giving patients information that departs from the so-called contemporary scientific consensus about Covid, creates an impossible standard for physicians to follow and would result in silencing physicians who disagree with state orthodoxy. The speed with which he issued his decision no doubt reflects the significance of the constitutional problems the law presents, as well as the negative consequences it would have for doctor-patient relationships.”
— Jenin Younes, Litigation Counsel, NCLA


“This Act is a blatant attempt to silence doctors whose views, though based on thorough scientific research, deviate from the government-approved ‘party line.’ At no point has the State of California been able to articulate the line between permissible and impermissible speech, further illustrating how problematic the statute is. NCLA is pleased the Court recognized all the problems with AB2098 and enjoined this unconstitutional law.”
Greg Dolin, M.D., Senior Litigation Counsel, NCLA
 
And there you go, taking the word of people who have plainly lied to you about the effectiveness of the vaccine.
They told you that if you got the vaccine, you could not get Covid. Plainly, a lie.
Then they told you that if you got the vaccine, you could not spread Covid. Plainly, another lie.
So now they tell you that this person is spreading misinformation. And you believe them.

Hey, I got a bridge for sale.
Who told you all that?

All I ever heard was that risk of spreading it would be reduced, and that the risk of dying from it would be reduced.
 
Who told you all that?

All I ever heard was that risk of spreading it would be reduced, and that the risk of dying from it would be reduced
For the most part you can’t find the statements anymore. Most everything’s been take down or “updated”, even the CDC has erased most of its initial statements. Which is fine, but now it’s an argument against Covid misinformation- what you got banned for saying six months ago is now agreed upon “science”. I understand that is the way science works, but dontchya think it could have played out before everyone got the shot?
 
Who told you all that?

All I ever heard was that risk of spreading it would be reduced, and that the risk of dying from it would be reduced.
You have a selective memory.
How many times were you told to "get the shot to protect grandma."
Here's a direct quote of MSNBC's Rachel Maddow's infamous rant:
"Now we know that the vaccines work well enough that the virus stops with every vaccinated person," Maddow said on her show the evening of March 29, 2021.

"A vaccinated person gets exposed to the virus, the virus does not infect them, the virus cannot then use that person to go anywhere else," she added with a shrug. "It cannot use a vaccinated person as a host to go get more people."

Now CDC says that you are just as likely to get Covid from a vaccinated person as from an unvaccinated.
 
Anecdotal for sure, but I have two Pfizer shots, and have contracted Covid twice, and severely.

My wife and kids have not, and they also tested positive once, but had very little symptoms of any.

Also, my arm that had the shot has never been the same. I have joint pain in that hand, and a weaker grip.

I also experience chest pain regularly, and break out in hives almost every night.

Again, I have no idea if it's from Covid or the vaccine.

Either way, it sucks.
 
I would also add, that when I was given the shots, it was in a lobby by a nurse.

There was no physician or exam, or any time given to go over my medical history. I was asked zero questions.

I distinctly remember watching broadcasts of information stating that your doctor would work with individuals case by case to see if there would be any reason to get the shots or not.

Also, I was handed a hand written card that showed that I had been vaccinated.

Since then, I have gone to the ER for the hives, chest pain, and to get stitches. Each time they ask if I have been vaccinated. Do they not have it on my record?
 
Anecdotal for sure, but I have two Pfizer shots, and have contracted Covid twice, and severely.

My wife and kids have not, and they also tested positive once, but had very little symptoms of any.

Also, my arm that had the shot has never been the same. I have joint pain in that hand, and a weaker grip.

I also experience chest pain regularly, and break out in hives almost every night.

Again, I have no idea if it's from Covid or the vaccine.

Either way, it sucks.
I’ve had covid 4 times since receiving the Moderna, but I work around covid patients often. Each time the symptoms were nasty but did not require a hospital visit.

I also developed pain in the joints of my hand on the arm which received the shots, something I had not considered being a correlation until you brought it up now. Trouble breathing and chest tightness has been a pretty ongoing thing since receiving the shots, but I’m unsure if these symptoms are due to the shots or due to having covid so many times.
 
I’ve had covid 4 times since receiving the Moderna, but I work around covid patients often. Each time the symptoms were nasty but did not require a hospital visit.

I also developed pain in the joints of my hand on the arm which received the shots, something I had not considered being a correlation until you brought it up now. Trouble breathing and chest tightness has been a pretty ongoing thing since receiving the shots, but I’m unsure if these symptoms are due to the shots or due to having covid so many times.
Sorry to hear that, and thanks for helping out those in need.

Covid sucks.
 
A year later, looking back at this thread, some of the posts didn’t age very well. I feel bad for the ones who were duped into injecting poison into their bodies, either to keep their jobs, remain active in the military, or just plain fear.
 
A year later, looking back at this thread, some of the posts didn’t age very well. I feel bad for the ones who were duped into injecting poison into their bodies, either to keep their jobs, remain active in the military, or just plain fear.

I looked back also Jon…….and am literally amazed how some refuse to open their eyes.
I’ll stop there.
Lastly……..God gave Frank an extra dose of patience. I feel like I was forced to watch CNN or MSNBC.
 
Although this hasn't conclusively been either proven, nor denied, my double vaxxed brother, suffered a severe outbreak of Shingles (never had Shingles before in his life prior to this), within a week after he injected his 2nd jab. This Shingles outbreak, spread into his left eye, and it's been a ongoing nightmare ever since- 3 major surgeries....and his eye/vision is pretty much, FUBAR. There's not a single doubt in my mind, what triggered this dormant virus in his body into action- no doubt at all.


 
On a more positive note: There does appear to be a much brighter future on the horizon for my brother. Through much prodding, I was able to convince him to see yet, another Doctor. This Doctor, was was finally able to correctly diagnose my Bro, & prescribed him, ELONIPROL. I'm proud to say that my brother, is now currently on the very long road to recovery and slowly becoming the once Toxic Masculine brother I used to know.....and can finally start thinking "rationally," for himself once again......

 
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