How can I use a blade without a tang?

SilverFoxKnows



I am 1,78 tall and weigh around 76 kilos. I think that tranlates to 5 feet and 10 inches, and around 168 pounds.

I am not strong enough for breaking a khukuri.



I have a spare khukuri that I am using now. Bought in Nepal for 1 US dollar, soft metal, but hey it works like a glory.
And so since I never managed to damage that one then it can't be me, it must have been a rare bad khukuri from Himalayan Imports that broke.



Originally posted by SilverFoxKnows

Oh, and when you meet people guided by voices...listen. In another time and place they would be the Shamans of our tribe. The test of a warriors wisdom may well be riddling out the meaning behind their words.

They probably would have been our shamans yes.

I am prepeared to listen.


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I understand now why Tohatchi says they all need thorough testing.


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Sweet

I don't have a digital camera here.
I took some photos with my old fashion camera of this incident but I probably won't finish the film until after the summer.

The tree I was cutting was as thick as my tigh at it's thickest. No, thicker actually. A real tree, tall and big. Could seriously hurt you if you got it on top of yourself. Not like the young ones at those pics in the thread you are refering to.

About your idea for a special tree logger. Soon... soon... I am going to make a special order for a 30 inch Sirupati with a specially long handle for a two handed grip. That's going to be my tree logger.
 
Eik, I've given some more thought to your problem.

You can break a khukuri.

Bill's guarentee has always mystified me. He wrote somewhere, on the web site, I think, that this business was to be conducted with the customer always right. That's translated into some special deals in the daytime for us, where someone had a scuff mark on the blade and wanted a replacement. I had a khuk early after getting here that slipped loose in the handle after two or three swings. I didn't know what to do. I sent it back for a fix and it was fixed. Handles are in a grey area of this lifetime guarentee- who can guarentee a piece of wood? Some of mine are cracked, some aren't. That used to worry me a little, but not today. The more experience you have with khuks the less you sweat the small stuff. Now, I know you have a broken tang- a significant failure, and I'm working towards that in my own way.

I had a Villager with some depressions in the blade- trenches, not fullers, just holes, Man! I was disapointed, everyone was yipping with glee about their wonderful Villagers, just needing a little finishing to be beautiful. Just needing a few brush strokes to be magnificent, better than standard HI. We had Villager mystique. If only I could die with a Villager in my arms.

Mine arrives looking like a San Diego Swap Meet. Bill says, "It's just a Villager."

That had been part of the pull back then. Gosh. Give us a blade Just Like A Poor Nepal Farmer Uses. (only better, we whisper) Naturally it had to be better. Put that tag on any goods sold in the US. If you want to look at us as overindulged consumers, next we'll be paying money to put the dings and trenches back into the blades, like the people who beat their Levis to hell before wearing them, or hammering furniture for the antique look.

Several khukuris of mine have stories. There was a sweet Sher 19.5" AK that Art called, "the best one armed chopper I've ever seen." The wooden handle had deep grain. Truly beautiful. I gave it to the Bartender here in town. The ugly Villager out-cut it.

Some of the people in this forum remind me what giving is by the way they live. Some of my khukuris have traveled to other hands with borrowed grace.

The ugly Villager developed a loose handle. You probably saw the thread. Me and Pappy and some other voices put it back together. It was a lot of fun. One of the brass rivets finished loopy, sort of a half moon shape. "How did that happen?" I asked Pappy.
"You probably hit it too hard. I always make sure the ends of the brass are straight and flat beforehand." I didn't tell Pappy the ends of my brass dowel were jagged points from the clumsy cut with the pair of tin snips I'd used.
"Munk," he said, "I get the impression you don't know a lot about this stuff."

Now, I know he couldn't see the hammer marks on the spine from splitting firewood. Just the same I've plans to remove them someday. You see, that Villager really is outstanding, it has presence. Tight and sound and the right size. Beautiful.

I don't know how to fix a broken tang. I'd learn, watch an expert weld it, and if I had Eikverang's ability with wood, do the handle myself, the way I liked. Now that's a khukuri.


munk
 
That is one of the best compliments I've ever had, Aardvark.
Thank you.




munk
 
Munk, hopefully you are aware that the compliment was not an accident. Let's leave it there, before we get too maudlin.
 
Ok

I think I am going to get a piece of metal welded to the blade and put my own handle on it.

Have to wait for a couple of months with doing it. I will be in my father's place then and I think he can weld this. If not then he knows people who will do it for free. I can't afford to pay someone to weld here. It is too expensive.

Besides, it is so much more fun to have some practical things to do with my father. Solving problems together, even if they are small, is fun.
 
I think she just listened. :)

We don't ever give our instincts enough credit. Eik, it seems you saw the radiant strength of someone's soul! People don't usually show their souls to others, whether by concious choice or not.

God guides us all in circles to enable us to learn. Yes I believe that some things are meant to happen. We meet others for reasons, seasons and sometimes our entire lives. Now and then there are signs that there is more order to the seeming chaos of this life than meets the eye.

The thing is to slow down, listen, question and observe. The Ungulate Food and Drug Administration doesn't tell a deer what to eat. It learns with all it's senses. The difference is that we pound back antacids instead of not eating what caused the heartburn.

Phil
 
Originally posted by philthygeezer

We don't ever give our instincts enough credit.

In other times, it has happened to me that I thought I felt something, but my rational side didn't believe in it. And so I chose a different path, the rational one. But later my first intuition proved itself correct, and the logical choice proved to be a less good one.

Originally posted by philthygeezer

Eik, it seems you saw the radiant strength of someone's soul! People don't usually show their souls to others, whether by concious choice or not.

Yes, that was what I wanted to say to myself but I didn't dare. I thought I could see her soul. It just felt too weird to say it. But now that you said it for me it doesn't feel weird anymore.

Her eyes returned to normal when we started talking more about common matters.

Originally posted by philthygeezer

God guides us all in circles to enable us to learn. Yes I believe that some things are meant to happen. We meet others for reasons, seasons and sometimes our entire lives. Now and then there are signs that there is more order to the seeming chaos of this life than meets the eye.

Big one.

But some times, yes maybe...

Originally posted by philthygeezer

The thing is to slow down, listen, question and observe. The Ungulate Food and Drug Administration doesn't tell a deer what to eat. It learns with all it's senses. The difference is that we pound back antacids instead of not eating what caused the heartburn.

That's right.

I wonder if the moose has "warm lips" and can feel what is right for it to eat?

I guess they just use their sense of smell.
 
My "blade without a tang" :
bwat02p.jpg


Biggers pics here : http://www.crude-forged-knives.com/bladewithoutatang

Regards,

Stephen Nery.
 
that's nice.

The picture gives me an idea- you could make a handle the edge folds into, and when unfolded acts as a handle- like the 'smashette".


But I like this way because the blade stays strong.



munk
 
As to the original question:

" How can I use a blade with out a tang? "

First, buy a BIG box of bandaids...
;) :p :D
 
If you do re-grind a tang from the left over blade, be a good idea to take a torch, and try and temper the new tang so it dont retain any hardness.
 
I wonder if the moose has "warm lips" and can feel what is right for it to eat?

I don't know if they are warm, but they sure look sensuous...

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Eik, I am happy that you are observing the same things as me. I met someone once who showed me her soul, and it affected me profoundly. We were born on the same day, eight years apart, and were meant to help each other through difficult times in our lives; I am certain of that. She is not my wife or girlfriend, but I hope to find the same connection in a future partner. So far no luck.

Many of the beliefs that I have held sacred about this life are giving way to the things that hit me when I stepped outside of my socially engineered self to ponder what is really true and really matters. Does this happen to everyone as we get older? Do old people know all this stuff and not tell us because we didn't ask or won't listen?

The last piece of advice I read from a centenarian was, "Chew your food." 100 years and that's all the guy had to say??:eek: I pondered this one over dinner tonight. Now I think he meant something about relaxing and savouring life instead of gulping it down. Sly old buggers...

Phil
 
Originally posted by philthygeezer
I think she just listened. :)

We don't ever give our instincts enough credit. Eik, it seems you saw the radiant strength of someone's soul! People don't usually show their souls to others, whether by concious choice or not.

God guides us all in circles to enable us to learn. Yes I believe that some things are meant to happen. We meet others for reasons, seasons and sometimes our entire lives. Now and then there are signs that there is more order to the seeming chaos of this life than meets the eye.

The thing is to slow down, listen, question and observe.

Phil

Yep!!!! I think there are more than a few of us here on the forum that similar things have happened too.

"Many of the beliefs that I have held sacred about this life are giving way to the things that hit me when I stepped outside of my socially engineered self to ponder what is really true and really matters.

Does this happen to everyone as we get older?

Not everyone, as not everyone is interested.

Do old people know all this stuff.....
Not all of the Elders know, only those who have stopped to listen when these things happened to them.

.....and not tell us because we didn't ask or won't listen?"

Phil, it's both in my experience, as one who listens and one who passes the things I do know about on to the younger generation.
I think you said something about patience already.;)
 
Originally posted by Eikerværing
I continued asking her a lot of questions.

She told me that I was an open person, and now she understood why she had to be in the forest today. It was to meet me she said. Because all people can learn certain "things" but one must be open, and those who are open might need a guidance in the right direction some times.

Anyway, she told me a lot of stuff. Things like that we are primarily spirit and not matter.
Time does not exist because past, present and future are one.
Don't get caught up in religion, all is Love anyway.
And many things more. I could make a list.



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Any comments anyone?

You should have asked her how you could use a blade without a tang. :p
 
Everything is Different, Unique but not separated. Everything is Changing all the time. All is Love, All is One. AMEN.

Best regards,

Stephen.
 
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